FOFC Favorite Rock Act - Round 2 Group D

BYU 14 · 08-01-2017, 06:42 PM

Heartbreaking loss for %Talking Heads in group C, falling to SRV on the high seed rule in our second tie of the tournament. That was the closest Group C gave us to an upset, but group D holds a couple of possibilities.

Most votes one act	Most votes both acts	Fewest votes winner	Most votes loser
70 - Beach Boys - 1st rd	75 - AC/DC vs Asia (68-7) - 1st rd	23 - Jeff Buckley - Play in rd	35 - Sting - 1st rd
69 - Eagles - 1st rd	75 - Paul Simon vs Billy Idol (42-33) - 1st rd	23 - Counting Crows - Play in rd	34 - Talking Heads - 2nd rd
68 - Guns n' Roses - 1st rd	74 - Five way tie	24 - Sammy Hagar - Play in rd	33 - Eric Burdon & The Animals - 1st rd
68 - AC/DC - 1st rd			33 - Billy Idol - 1st rd
Largest margin of victory	Smallest margin of victory	Biggest upset	Largest Shutout
64 - Guns n' Roses vs Slipknot (68-4) - 1st rd	0 - Rage against the Machine vs Sting (35-35) 1st rd	175/74 - James Taylor over Alice in Chains 1st rd	Chicago 63 - Arcana 0 - 1st rd
64 - Queen vs Counting Crows (67-3) 1st rd	0 - Stevie Ray Vaughn vs Talking Heads (34-34) 2nd rd	187/94 - Tears for Fears over Judas Priest 1st rd	The Kinks 63 - Free 0 - 1st rd
63 - Chicago vs Arcana (63-0) - 1st rd	1 - Elvis Costello vs STP (29-28) 1st rd	185/96 - No Doubt over Eric Burdon - 1st rd
63 - The Kinks vs Free (63-0) - 1st rd

General Mike · 08-01-2017, 07:03 PM

Beastie Boys are a tough sell as a rock act, but I love them so much more than Nirvana.

Licensed to Ill might be my favorite album by anybody ever, and Paul's Boutique is a game changer.

cartman · 08-01-2017, 07:10 PM

REM v. Prince has been my toughest call to date

Grammaticus · 08-01-2017, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Beastie Boys are a tough sell as a rock act, but I love them so much more than Nirvana.

Licensed to Ill might be my favorite album by anybody ever, and Paul's Boutique is a game changer.

Sabotage is my favorite Beasties song. Love them but Nirvana is my favorite band. Both are in the HOF and huge contributors to rock.

CrescentMoonie · 08-01-2017, 08:14 PM

Please let Nirvana lose. Straight garbage.

Buccaneer · 08-01-2017, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Heartbreaking loss for %Talking Heads in group C, falling to SRV on the high seed rule in our second tie of the tournament.

Whew, thank goodness for the high seed rule!

vex · 08-01-2017, 11:17 PM

Nirvana and BB has been my most difficult decision so far.

Chief Rum · 08-02-2017, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Please let Nirvana lose. Straight garbage.

As I said in a prior of these threads, Nirvana was the poster child for a rock era which more or less eliminated new rock music for me for most of the 90s.

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 01:06 AM

I don't dislike ACDC . Good history and story. But their music is just kinda boring to me. A few songs I can listen to...some good rockers but it's all kinda the same.

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 01:07 AM

Tom Petty/Moody Blues is a toss up. I think I like them equally.

Both have stuff I love and stuff that's meh.

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 01:08 AM

Where did all those people go that thought U2 were a bunch of pretentious gits? I wanna here from those guys

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

As I said in a prior of these threads, Nirvana was the poster child for a rock era which more or less eliminated new rock music for me for most of the 90s.

And the Beastie Boys was so much better of an examplle of stuff you like then is it?

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

REM v. Prince has been my toughest call to date

indeed that one is EXTREMELY tough.

I have to say that I like REM more. Just more my taste. But at least Prince has like a depth of sound and albums.

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 01:12 AM

Clash and Oasis are kinda similar really. I mean hold them up next to each other and their sound is very similar. I never realized that before now.

I never really considered Clash as that punky even tho they are one of the big "punk bands ever" (along with Sex Pistols and Ramones)

Maybe they had a bunch of earlier albums.

Still adore Rock the Casbah and London Calling. Just perfect sound.

Chief Rum · 08-02-2017, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

And the Beastie Boys was so much better of an examplle of stuff you like then is it?

I actually do really like the Beastie Boys, yes. But I will agree that that vote is far more a vote against Nirvana than it is for the Beasties.

Chief Rum · 08-02-2017, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Clash and Oasis are kinda similar really. I mean hold them up next to each other and their sound is very similar. I never realized that before now.

I never really considered Clash as that punky even tho they are one of the big "punk bands ever" (along with Sex Pistols and Ramones)

Maybe they had a bunch of earlier albums.

Still adore Rock the Casbah and London Calling. Just perfect sound.

I have always found the Clash to easily be the most palatable of punk rock bands (amongst the old style punk rock bands). They were a much more commercially presentable form of the genre. I love both of those songs too, along with Should I Stay Or Should I Go.

CrescentMoonie · 08-02-2017, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

And the Beastie Boys was so much better of an examplle of stuff you like then is it?

No Sleep Til Brooklyn is a better rock song than anything Nirvana ever shat out.

CrimsonFox · 08-02-2017, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

No Sleep Til Brooklyn is a better rock song than anything Nirvana ever shat out.

Butter · 08-02-2017, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

REM v. Prince has been my toughest call to date

Yeah, really. I went with REM because they are one of the few acts I own every album of. But Prince... I mean, c'mon. His 80's output is up there with anyone in any decade ever. I even like some of that carryover into the 90's. Too bad he didn't make it back around to have a renaissance.

tarcone · 08-02-2017, 08:48 AM

I hate U2. Always have. Always will.

I will vote against U2 in every poll.

And I hit the wrong button and voted for Nirvana over the Beastie Boys.

PackerFanatic · 08-02-2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

I hate U2. Always have. Always will.

I will vote against U2 in every poll.

+100

Buccaneer · 08-02-2017, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I don't dislike ACDC . Good history and story. But their music is just kinda boring to me. A few songs I can listen to...some good rockers but it's all kinda the same.

Same here. I think, for me, it all comes down the awful lead singer with his 3-note range. Nearly all rock singers of the 70s and 80s had great range. Musically AC/DC was good, vocally they suck.

CU Tiger · 08-02-2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Same here. I think, for me, it all comes down the awful lead singer with his 3-note range. Nearly all rock singers of the 70s and 80s had great range. Musically AC/DC was good, vocally they suck.

I think this depends greatly on if you are talking about Scott or Johnson.
I think that's a fair descriptor of the latter but wholly inaccurate for the latter.

Sure many more know Johnson...but their best music was pre 1980

JonInMiddleGA · 08-02-2017, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Sure many more know Johnson...but their best music was pre 1980

No.

Back In Black assures that this is not true.

Julio Riddols · 08-02-2017, 02:06 PM

I think Prince has some real high highs, but a lot of his catalog is awful.

CU Tiger · 08-02-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

No.

Back In Black assures that this is not true.

BIB is more iconic....I'd say the earlier stuff is better technical music.

CrescentMoonie · 08-02-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I think this depends greatly on if you are talking about Scott or Johnson.
I think that's a fair descriptor of the latter but wholly inaccurate for the latter.

Sure many more know Johnson...but their best music was pre 1980

74 Jailbreak is still my favorite work of theirs even though I do like a lot of the work after Scott.

thesloppy · 08-02-2017, 05:34 PM

POWERAGE!!

korme · 08-02-2017, 06:51 PM

Losing REM and Smashing Pumpkins in the same group hurts

sabotai · 08-02-2017, 10:01 PM

Groundhog · 08-02-2017, 10:08 PM

I can't stand U2, but outside of that there isn't really an artist/band here that I feel particularly strongly for or against.

Breeze · 08-03-2017, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I have always found the Clash to easily be the most palatable of punk rock bands (amongst the old style punk rock bands). They were a much more commercially presentable form of the genre. I love both of those songs too, along with Should I Stay Or Should I Go.

Train in Vain is my favorite Clash tune...Classic song...

albionmoonlight · 08-03-2017, 07:31 AM

R.E.M. v Prince is like Kentucky v UNC in Round 2.

pbot · 08-03-2017, 08:15 AM

Doesn't seem like there's much middle ground on U2. Not sure if it is more popular, in general, to hate them or like them, but curious for those that don't like them is it the music itself or their politics, or some combination of both?

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HomerSimpson98 · 08-03-2017, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

R.E.M. v Prince is like Kentucky v UNC in Round 2.

did you mean Western Kentucky vs UNC-Greensboro?

CU Tiger · 08-03-2017, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

R.E.M. v Prince is like Kentucky v UNC in Round 2.

For me it was two extremely talented artisits who I like a lot of their stuff.

My choice came down to 1 is a rock act and the other is decidedly (IMHO) not.

Vince, Pt. II · 08-03-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pbot

Doesn't seem like there's much middle ground on U2. Not sure if it is more popular, in general, to hate them or like them, but curious for those that don't like them is it the music itself or their politics, or some combination of both?

For me it's just the music. I don't actually hate them, I just think they are incredibly overrated. They are a perfectly fine band - very good, even (I really enjoy Where the Streets Have No Name in particular). I just really don't think they are upper echelon, all-time good.

My friend and I have this conversation all the time - they are the exact inverse of Nickelback, who is hated so much that they are actually underrated. Not that I enjoy them much, or at all - they just aren't nearly as bad as the hate they engender would lead you to believe.

BYU 14 · 08-03-2017, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

For me it was two extremely talented artisits who I like a lot of their stuff.

My choice came down to 1 is a rock act and the other is decidedly (IMHO) not.

I think it is hard to really pin Prince to a specific genre as he crossed into so many. Dude was so talented though he could have kicked ass in about any genre he chose if he had focused on one.

Kodos · 08-03-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

For me it's just the music. I don't actually hate them, I just think they are incredibly overrated. They are a perfectly fine band - very good, even (I really enjoy Where the Streets Have No Name in particular). I just really don't think they are upper echelon, all-time good.

My friend and I have this conversation all the time - they are the exact inverse of Nickelback, who is hated so much that they are actually underrated. Not that I enjoy them much, or at all - they just aren't nearly as bad as the hate they engender would lead you to believe.

I really like U2. But if you subtracted their best album from their catalogue (Achtung, Baby), they would be much lower in my rankings. However, that album is in my all-time top 5, so it carries them a long way in my eyes. Given the choice of keeping Achtung, Baby or the rest of their catalogue, I'd take Achtung.

CrescentMoonie · 08-03-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I really like U2. But if you subtracted their best album from their catalogue (Achtung, Baby), they would be much lower in my rankings. However, that album is in my all-time top 5, so it carries them a long way in my eyes. Given the choice of keeping Achtung, Baby or the rest of their catalogue, I'd take Achtung.

Replace Achtung, Baby with Joshua Tree and you've got my take on it. Tracks 1-3 of Joshua Tree are all top 10 songs for me.

I think that's part of why they're so popular. They have 2-3 albums from their different eras as a band that spoke to a big chunk of people who may not think the rest of their work is that great, but that 1 is an all-time great to the fans that like it.

General Mike · 08-03-2017, 08:46 PM

Beasties

CrimsonFox · 08-04-2017, 06:42 AM

These photos are amazeballs!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z...ce=vicefbusads

BYU 14 · 08-04-2017, 07:37 AM

All I can say is there are some brutal matchups coming in round 3

Hammer · 08-05-2017, 02:30 AM

Oasis are one of those bands that you need to listen to a lot of their music. Some of their B sides are better than the hits. Until you go that deep, you can't get what they are about. Certainly up there with the Beatles, Queen etc. Incredible range of music. Huge band in the UK but they never seemed bothered about expanding their market strangely.

CrimsonFox · 08-05-2017, 03:53 AM

Another dimension...Another dimension... Another dimension...Another dimension...

CrimsonFox · 08-05-2017, 03:54 AM

View Poll Results: Round 2 - Group D
7 - AC/DC	65	86.67%
122 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer	6	8.00%
-----	1	1.33%
58 - Santana	38	50.67%
66 - Janis Joplin	27	36.00%
-----	0	0%
47 - R.E.M.	33	44.00%
87 - Prince	36	48.00%
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18 - U2	50	66.67%
106 - Paul Simon	22	29.33%
-----	0	0%
31 - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers	58	77.33%
98 - The Moody Blues	15	20.00%
-----	0	0%
34 - The Clash	50	66.67%
90 - Oasis	21	28.00%
-----	0	0%
55 - Ozzy Osbourne	42	56.00%
79 - The Smashing Pumpkins	28	37.33%
-----	0	0%
10 - Nirvana	46	61.33%
119 – Beastie Boys	25	33.33%
-----	1	1.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	REM v. Prince has been my toughest call to date __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

08-02-2017, 08:48 AM	#20
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I hate U2. Always have. Always will. I will vote against U2 in every poll. And I hit the wrong button and voted for Nirvana over the Beastie Boys. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

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Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I think Prince has some real high highs, but a lot of his catalog is awful. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

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08-01-2017, 07:03 PM	#2
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Beastie Boys are a tough sell as a rock act, but I love them so much more than Nirvana. Licensed to Ill might be my favorite album by anybody ever, and Paul's Boutique is a game changer.

08-01-2017, 08:14 PM	#5
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Please let Nirvana lose. Straight garbage.

08-01-2017, 11:17 PM	#7
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Nirvana and BB has been my most difficult decision so far.

08-02-2017, 01:06 AM	#9
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I don't dislike ACDC . Good history and story. But their music is just kinda boring to me. A few songs I can listen to...some good rockers but it's all kinda the same.

08-02-2017, 01:07 AM	#10
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Tom Petty/Moody Blues is a toss up. I think I like them equally. Both have stuff I love and stuff that's meh.

08-02-2017, 01:08 AM	#11
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Where did all those people go that thought U2 were a bunch of pretentious gits? I wanna here from those guys

08-02-2017, 01:12 AM	#14
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Clash and Oasis are kinda similar really. I mean hold them up next to each other and their sound is very similar. I never realized that before now. I never really considered Clash as that punky even tho they are one of the big "punk bands ever" (along with Sex Pistols and Ramones) Maybe they had a bunch of earlier albums. Still adore Rock the Casbah and London Calling. Just perfect sound.

08-02-2017, 06:51 PM	#29
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Losing REM and Smashing Pumpkins in the same group hurts

08-02-2017, 10:01 PM	#30
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love

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Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I can't stand U2, but outside of that there isn't really an artist/band here that I feel particularly strongly for or against. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

08-03-2017, 07:31 AM	#33
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	R.E.M. v Prince is like Kentucky v UNC in Round 2.

08-03-2017, 08:15 AM	#34
pbot H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2001	Doesn't seem like there's much middle ground on U2. Not sure if it is more popular, in general, to hate them or like them, but curious for those that don't like them is it the music itself or their politics, or some combination of both?

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General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Beasties

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CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	These photos are amazeballs! https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z...ce=vicefbusads

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BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	All I can say is there are some brutal matchups coming in round 3

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Hammer College Prospect Join Date: Sep 2005	Oasis are one of those bands that you need to listen to a lot of their music. Some of their B sides are better than the hits. Until you go that deep, you can't get what they are about. Certainly up there with the Beatles, Queen etc. Incredible range of music. Huge band in the UK but they never seemed bothered about expanding their market strangely. Last edited by Hammer : 08-05-2017 at 02:33 AM.

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CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Another dimension...Another dimension... Another dimension...Another dimension...

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