The Official NHL Offseason (Cindy-free Zone) thread

[Suburban Rhythm]

As to not clutter up the playoff thread

[Suburban Rhythm]

Ovechkin - Hart
Crosby - Lindsay
Subban - Norris
Huberdeau - Calder
Bobrovsky - Vezina

[Honolulu_Blue]

Well done with the thread title, SB.

[bbor]

Wow...What's a Detroit fan doing posting in this Off-season thread before the finals are over??....oh wait....

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by bbor

Wow...What's a Detroit fan doing posting in this Off-season thread before the finals are over??....oh wait....

Look who's getting all fat and sassy after their first playoffs appearance in, what, a decade or so? Slow your roll, Chalupa!

[bbor]

Sadly,i'm sure the Wings will win 2 or 3 more cups before the Leafers do.

Chances are that Petr Klimas hair will likely come back into style again before the Leafs win a cup.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Interesting note on media voting for awards.

Pascal Dupuis finished 7th in Selke voting. He's pretty good defensively. Really good skater, solid on the PK.

But, Chris Kunitz finished 13th. And Crosby 15th!

How in the world did anyone score on a line that had 3 of the top 15 defensive forwards in the league!?!?!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Pavel Datsyuk, 3 year extension.

[DaddyTorgo]

Bergy getting robbed in the Selke voting. Grrrrr

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Bergy getting robbed in the Selke voting. Grrrrr

But he did get the King Clancy, that's gotta be worth something, right?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

But he did get the King Clancy, that's gotta be worth something, right?

True. And I'm sure you ask him he'd rather have Lord Stanley's Cup than the Selke.

[Suburban Rhythm]

To further highlight why media people shouldn't be voting on these...

Toews had 167 total votes.
Bergeron, 164.

3 writers left him off their ballot entirely.

ETA: Most recent # I can find, 2011 there were 177 members of the PHWA. So some guys aren't even submitting ballots most likely.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Pavel Datsyuk, 3 year extension.

$7.5m per

[Honolulu_Blue]

This news makes me happy.

[Suburban Rhythm]

LA signs Slava Voynov to 6 year, $25m extension ($4.167m)

SJ signs Logan Couture to 5 year, $30m extension ($6m)

Philly agrees* with Mark Streit to 4 year, $21m deal ($5.25m)

* Will not have cap space to complete deal until, as rumored, Bryzgalov and Briere bought out on July 1

[Danny]

Woot, got Voynov locked up long term!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Danny

Woot, got Voynov locked up long term!

I really like that deal. He's not a #1...but he's a top 3 on any team in the league.

[EagleFan]

Figures a Penguins fan would be whining just like Cindy.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Figures a Penguins fan would be whining just like Cindy.

The Pens didn't trade for enough captains or can't miss players this year to go along with having 2 of the top 5 players in the league and one of the top 10 defensemen in the league. They just needed one or two more players and they would've had it!

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

The Pens didn't trade for enough captains or can't miss players this year to go along with having 2 of the top 5 players in the league and one of the top 10 defensemen in the league. They just needed one or two more players and they would've had it!

lol, they have the same viewpoint of the Finals as the Flyers do and the Flyers don't have the shame of being the "hands down favorites" to win it all and not even make the finals.

[EagleFan]

The thread title is just a Penguins fan's tantrum after being asked to take it to another thread because they were taking up space in the Playoff thread talking about their crappy team/players. It's the finals, talk Bruins and Blackhawks in that thread now (show their fans some respect, their teams earned it). Not who did what in the regular season from a team watching the finals on TV.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

The Pens didn't trade for enough captains or can't miss players this year to go along with having 2 of the top 5 players in the league and one of the top 10 defensemen in the league. They just needed one or two more players and they would've had it!

But not THE top player. Laviolette announced who that was last year.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Figures a Penguins fan would be whining just like Cindy.

Only somebody not really interested in the games would continually throw out "Cindy". It reeks of fanboy inferiority complex.

Never fear. Philly will win some year, if they keep signing a new goalie every two years, and defensemen to 35+ contracts, it's bound to work at some point.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Only somebody not really interested in the games would continually throw out "Cindy". It reeks of fanboy inferiority complex.

Never fear. Philly will win some year, if they keep signing a new goalie every two years, and defensemen to 35+ contracts, it's bound to work at some point.

Waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa.... typical Penguin fan...

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa.... typical Penguin fan...

This thread is for talking about the offseason.

Maybe start an "Obsessed with players and teams other than my own" thread?

[britrock88]

Okay, guys. 26 other teams are watching the Finals, too.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Congrats to the Grand Rapids Griffins winnings the Calder Cup!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Okay, guys. 26 other teams are watching the Finals, too.

Yeah, but Toronto doesn't count, they're used to it

[bbor]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Yeah, but Toronto doesn't count, they're used to it

Zing.....


Another upset PIT fan that we didn't beat the Bruins.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by bbor

Zing.....


Another upset PIT fan that we didn't beat the Bruins.

What you guys needed is a proven, Stanley Cup winning goaltender. Therefore, Marc-Andre Fleury is yours. We'll call it even.

[Fidatelo]

Jets/Capitals get to square off in some place called Stirling-Rowden, last years Kraft Hockeyville, for a pre-season game in September.

Yay?

[Suburban Rhythm]

PING claphamsa

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

Joe Sakic, the executive vice president of hockey operations for the Avalanche, told The Denver Post on Tuesday night they will pass on the top-rated defenseman and instead choose between forwards Nathan MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin or Alexander Barkov.
"If we do pick first, we're leaning more toward one of those three forwards," Sakic told the paper. "We feel those three forwards are just too good to pass up."

[claphamsa]

well, Ill have to put my faith in Joe, as I dont know shit that being said, Center isnt really a need... and D is a huge need.... so.....

[Suburban Rhythm]

If they truly believe Mackinnon is the best player, then so be it.

More shocking to me that saying anything like this seems so out of character for Joe.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

If they truly believe Mackinnon is the best player, then so be it.

More shocking to me that saying anything like this seems so out of character for Joe.

yeah, maybe its a smoke screen to try to up the price to trade the pick.... maybe FLA really wants Mac....

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Congrats to the Grand Rapids Griffins winnings the Calder Cup!

I guess now that the Calder Cup is in the Calder City, all is right with the world.

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

well, Ill have to put my faith in Joe, as I dont know shit that being said, Center isnt really a need... and D is a huge need.... so.....

not super surprised. MacKinnon just seems more and more like a guy that you don't want to let go.

if there was a guarantee that Jones would reach his potential, I think they'd take him. But top ranked D are no sure thing (which the Avs can see first hand in Erik Johnson)

edit - in the SBN mock draft, we took MacKinnon and Florida took Drouin with Jones falling to 3rd
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl-mock-draft

[Suburban Rhythm]

There are people who like Drouin as the BPA.

From things I've read the comparisons I've seen most often:

Mackinnon = Tavares w/ speed
Drouin = Kane/Giroux
Jones = Pietrangelo/Niedermayer

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

But not THE top player. Laviolette announced who that was last year.

Right that's why I said two of the top five...not the Top player in the world and another top 5 player

[MacroGuru]

Rumor has it Lindy Ruff is going to sign on to coach the Stars....

[Suburban Rhythm]

Jonathan Bernier to Toronto.

I didn't think Reimer was too bad. Pushed Boston to 7 games, had them beaten until the team as a whole shit the bed.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Jonathan Bernier to Toronto.

I didn't think Reimer was too bad. Pushed Boston to 7 games, had them beaten until the team as a whole shit the bed.

Yeah, it's a strange deal. Reimer was top ten in every major category last year, yet going back to the weeks leading up to the deadline the Leafs have been focused on getting anyone they could find to replace him.

The price for Bernier wasn't exorbitant, but it just seems like an odd use of resources for a team with so many other glaring holes.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

This thread is for talking about the offseason.

Maybe start an "Obsessed with players and teams other than my own" thread?

Edit: take a week to settle down. I know you have been dealing with some health issues and really hope you will return.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

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Wow...unravel your panties and take a chill pill. It's sports trash-talking banter.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

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Dude, seriously. SB only put the Flyers in the title as a joke because you kept complaining about off-season posts in the playoffs thread. It was all in good humor. Chill.

[Logan]

I prefer EF not chill and keep bringing the stereotypical Philly-fan posts that he's always complaining about!

[Toddzilla]

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Logan

I prefer EF not chill and keep bringing the stereotypical Philly-fan posts that he's always complaining about!

You don't have to worry about it, he said on Facebook this morning he has some health issues and is done with FOFC.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Edit: take a week to settle down. I know you have been dealing with some health issues and really hope you will return.

Originally Posted by Lathum

You don't have to worry about it, he said on Facebook this morning he has some health issues and is done with FOFC.

Honestly had no idea there were health issues. Maybe that explains the obsessive nature...

I'll change the damn title. Sort of.

[Fidatelo]

So the Jets have extended Claude Noel for 1 year. I'm not sure what to think of that. I don't really agree with the entire 'lame duck' concept for coaches (players aren't 'lame ducks' the year their contract expires, if anything people expect them to play harder). But if you do, does a 1-year extension really change anything? Isn't it basically a transparent "we don't want to hear the lame duck stuff anymore but we still don't really know if we like this coach" contract?

As for Noel himself, I really don't know what to make of him. He is trying to coach a pretty low-talent team, so it's hard to blame him for the teams record. At the same time, he hasn't really done anything obvious from a coaching perspective that has made me think "wow, this guy is good". He has battled with players (Burmi most famously), had terrible special teams, and done nothing novel in terms of any kind of systems. But at the same time, the Jets have come rather close to the playoffs both years and really do have a lot of Turd Fergusons filling the roster.

So....yay?