Chiefs Tragedy

[digamma]

Chiefs player kills girlfriend then self at their practice facility this morning. Name not yet released.

[mckerney]

Nothing official released, but looks like it may have been Jovan Belcher.

Jason LaConfora of CBSSports says it's Belcher.
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/s...04815321096193

[mckerney]

Police: Chiefs player kills girlfriend then kills self - KCTV5

Police are investigating two deadly shootings Saturday morning that they said are related.

The shootings involve a Chiefs player and his girlfriend.

The first shooting was reported about 8 a.m. at a home near 54th Street and Chrysler Avenue. The second shooting was reported a short time later at a Chiefs practice facility located on the Arrowhead facility.

Officials said the Chiefs player shot and killed his girlfriend and then drove to the practice facility where he shot and killed himself.

It's unknown if people were at Arrowhead or any of its surrounding facilities at the time.

[booradley]

Already updated on his Wikipedia profile. Amazing ...

[Abe Sargent]

Wow. Expect some crazy fallout

[mckerney]

He may have shot himself in front of teammates and coaches in the parking lot of the facility.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by mckerney

He may have shot himself in front of teammates and coaches in the parking lot of the facility.

I can't even imagine if that were the case. A friend from high school was killed by her husband and their child was killed before he killed himself and when I found out I was just floore.d To see the latter half in real life? I can;t even imagine

[Sun Tzu]

Absolutely awful.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I can't even imagine if that were the case. A friend from high school was killed by her husband and their child was killed before he killed himself and when I found out I was just floore.d To see the latter half in real life? I can;t even imagine

Yeah, can't imagine that.

No mention of teammates here, but it says when he arrived at the facility he was met by coaches.

Chiefs player kills girlfriend then kills self - KansasCity.com

EDIT: And Even worse:

The woman’s mother was present at the time and witnessed the incident.

Also reading they had a two month old child.

[JPhillips]

How can they play tomorrow?

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

How can they play tomorrow?

This sounds like a shitty situation, but it never even occurred to me that they would postpone this game. I imagine they will hold a moment of silence tomorrow, and then just move on.

[BYU 14]

Wow, that is just horrible....Why on earth and with a 2 month old child and in front of her mother

[Scoobz0202]

Man..

[JPhillips]

If people saw the shooting I don't know how they can be ready emotionally. That could take a good deal of professional help to get beyond. I don't think there's a logistical way to postpone, but I don't know how they can be in any frame of mind that would allow them to focus on the game.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

but I don't know how they can be in any frame of mind that would allow them to focus on the game.

Can't see this either, curious how it will develop.

[JPhillips]

Was this at the stadium or another location?

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

If people saw the shooting I don't know how they can be ready emotionally. That could take a good deal of professional help to get beyond. I don't think there's a logistical way to postpone, but I don't know how they can be in any frame of mind that would allow them to focus on the game.

Can't imagine coaching a game 24 hours after trying to talk one of your players out of killing himself.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Was this at the stadium or another location?

News said it was at the practice facility and they held a team meeting at the stadium afterwards. Not sure how close the facility and Arrowhead are and whether they're connected or not.

[TroyF]

I read the scouts report on Belcher from ESPN insider. There is a line in there that would have sounded a lot less poor yesterday:

He is quick to locate the ball and is quick to pull the trigger and fill.

What a horrific incident.

[stevew]

I love the Twitter police who come out immediately and tell you how you should feel and act.

[JPhillips]

I'm curious as to whether it is standard to use this facility on game day. I don't see how you can bring players there tomorrow morning.

I'm assuming, but don't know, that practice has been cancelled today.

[Julio Riddols]

Well, there aren't any more bye weeks, so I can't see how they would be able to postpone the game, and cancelling it would be a detriment to the other team.. Moving the postseason back a week would be an option, but it wouldn't really be fair to give a team an extra bye week..

If I were a player, I think that I would want to get on the field and play and dedicate the game to him and his woman and his baby, maybe kick some of my game check to the grandparent to help take care of the child and be glad things weren't worse. I'd do as much as I could to get my mind off what happened.

[stevew]

The Redskins played the week after Sean Taylor got murdered. No point in even thinking that the game would be suspended when a murderer kills himself. Regardless of where it happened.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by stevew

The Redskins played the week after Sean Taylor got murdered. No point in even thinking that the game would be suspended when a murderer kills himself. Regardless of where it happened.

I think that might be different for some. Taylor was "this happened to one of our own, we got his back." The other is one of their own did it. I'm not sure, one day later, there is as much of a rally point for some.

[Scoobz0202]

I'm reading that Pioli and/or Crennel confronted him in the parking lot to talk him down. He thanked them both and then killed himself in front of them.

Is this confirmed or still speculation?

e: Reading Pioli for sure. Crennel might be a wildcard. May have been other personnel. Double Edit: Now I read a source that said Crennel and others, but not Pioli. I'll just wait for confirmation. Twitter world makes this crazy to follow.

[mckerney]

Kansas City Star is staying Pioli, Crennel and other team personnel were present.

[tucker rocky]

A question that can't be answered, why?!?

Awful to see this tragedy.

[britrock88]

Awful. It's only the Panthers coming to town; cancel the game.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Awful. It's only the Panthers coming to town; cancel the game.

The Chiefs could just forfeit, right? They aren't fighting for a playoff spot or anything.

[IlliniCub]

I would assume that with tv contract, and all of that stuff the NFL wouldn't allow a forfeit but ya never know

[frnk55]

If they have a moment of silence tomorrow it should be for the victim not this fucking piece of shit.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Just awful.

They should forfeit the game, just because nobody's mind will actually be on the game. You can't play like that. It takes a minute to get your head together.

What an awful tragedy.

[Dutch]

So sad.

As for the game itself, I guess to us, the NFL is just for fun...it's "not really a job"...but to the players, it's their job. I certainly wouldn't have a problem with them showing up and playing the game on Sunday, that's for sure.

[stevew]

ESPN finally confirmed it, so it must be true.

[Abe Sargent]

Yeah, and ESPn puts both Crennel and Pioli there at the suicide as well.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by NFL.COM

"About (7:50 a.m), we got a call to a residence, in regards to a shooting, on the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue," Snapp said by phone. "We arrived and the lady there informed us that her daughter had been shot by her on-again, off-again boyfriend. The young woman was taken to a local hospital, where she died a short time later.

"At about 8:10 a.m., we received a call to the Arrowhead practice facility in regards to a black male armed with a gun in the parking lot, and he matched the description of the shooting suspect," Snapp continued. "Officers arrived, saw a black man with a gun to his head, and some Chiefs employees. As the officer got out of his car, he heard a gunshot. It appeared the individual shot himself. He was transported to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead."

According to Snapp, Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, coach Romeo Crennel and another unnamed Chiefs staff member were talking to Belcher just before he shot himself, Breer and NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported. Snapp said Pioli and Crennel "never felt like they were in danger." Belcher thanked Pioli and Crennel for all that they had done for him.

When officers arrived, Belcher walked in the opposite direction from where they were all standing. He then shot himself, Snapp said.

Snapp said the shooting occurred outside the front doors of the facility.

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[Ben E Lou]

Source: Belcher murder-suicide followed argument over Trey Songz concert - KansasCity.com

[Ben E Lou]

Chiefs-Panthers game appears to be on schedule - KansasCity.com

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by frnk55

If they have a moment of silence tomorrow it should be for the victim not this fucking piece of shit.

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[M GO BLUE!!!]

I haven't watched the Chiefs this year or really paid much attention to them. He was their starting MLB?

[Julio Riddols]

Over a Trey Songz concert, and in front of her mother, presumably with the baby nearby? Wow.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by frnk55

If they have a moment of silence tomorrow it should be for the victim not this fucking piece of shit.

[EagleFan]

WTF is a Trey Songz?

[kcchief19]

The Chiefs had a team meeting/walk through scheduled this morning after the shooting and it was moved to the stadium. The practice facility is located across the parking lot from the stadium near one of the entrances to the stadium. Fans attending the game will/would drive by the practice facility if that entrance is open tomorrow.

The reports are that players arriving at the facility saw Belcher in his car appearing troubled and that Pioli and Crennel went out to talk to him. He thanked them for everything they had done for him and then shot himself when police arrived.

Just horrific and terribly sad.

[Ryan S]

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

They should forfeit the game, just because nobody's mind will actually be on the game. You can't play like that. It takes a minute to get your head together.

I can't see the NFL allowing a forfeit, especially when it could have an impact on the number one draft pick.

If they reschedule the game, I suppose it could move to Monday or Tuesday, but would that really make any difference? Anything beyond that could mess up the schedules of other teams.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by Ryan S

I can't see the NFL allowing a forfeit, especially when it could have an impact on the number one draft pick.

The Chiefs will lose by 30. Hopefully nobody gets hurt.

[Abe Sargent]

I would like them to move the game to Thursday night Week 18, just before the playoffs begin and after the regulra season ends.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

How will Romeo be able to coach a game just over 24 hours after watching his player blow his head off? What sort of prep will go into the game from this point forward? Whose head will be in this game? It's too soon.

The NFL should be more concerned with the people involved and the product they put on the field, than just putting something out there.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I would like them to move the game to Thursday night Week 18, just before the playoffs begin and after the regulra season ends.

They can't do this while the Panthers still haven't been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

[EagleFan]

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