Tempted to buy OOTP 5

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-29-2003, 12:06 AM

Well , Now that I have read the reviews and dynasties on OOTP 5 and that STB 04 will not be released I will be buying this game .
Since it seems to be a complete text sim and aside from FOF . Being user friendly .

MizzouRah · 04-29-2003, 08:37 AM

Good purchase, I think you'll like it.

Todd

cincyreds · 04-29-2003, 08:44 AM

Yeah, lots of enjoyment for sure.

BFleming · 04-29-2003, 09:52 AM

Good game...played out an entire season in a 16 team fictional league...won my division, made it to the championship, had a 3-1 series lead, then my only solid pitcher injure his back while i had a 3-0 lead in game 5, lst that game, then lost 2 more after to lose the title...still ticked about it, but all in all, it was a good time..

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-29-2003, 10:15 AM

If I start a fictional league ,say 16 teams to start with will expansion teams automatically pop up every few years or so ?

Easy Mac · 04-29-2003, 10:18 AM

no, you must manually expand the league.

For some reason, I havent really played it at all. I've played maybe 2 hours total in about 2 weeks of owning the game. I just can't get into to it.

MizzouRah · 04-29-2003, 12:25 PM

Easy Mac,

I was that way with ootp when I first got it. A few weeks later, I'm playing it nightly.

Now I'm back to FOF4, with an occasional ootp game. It goes in cycles with me.

Todd

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-29-2003, 12:26 PM

I'll probably investigate some more before making the deal .

Franklinnoble · 04-29-2003, 12:28 PM

Spank me for being an idiot, but does OOTP5 do much with player development in the minors? One of the things I miss about the pre-Angelos Baltimore Orioles is the way they used to really invest in their farm system and bring up home-grown talent the old-fashioned way... I'd buy OOTP5 in a minute if I could recreate that...

Jets80 · 04-29-2003, 12:29 PM

Money well spent. Just buy it.

cincyreds · 04-29-2003, 12:40 PM

It is a great game! What are you waiting for? You have these your FOFC brothers who recommend it, so why not?

I am about to start my 6th season, in my 32 team fictional league.

What I love about it is watching all my home grown players come up each year through the minors and making into the bigs.

It just makes me proud to see that happen.

MizzouRah · 04-29-2003, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Spank me for being an idiot, but does OOTP5 do much with player development in the minors? One of the things I miss about the pre-Angelos Baltimore Orioles is the way they used to really invest in their farm system and bring up home-grown talent the old-fashioned way... I'd buy OOTP5 in a minute if I could recreate that...

Skydog could answer this better, but imo... yes. Trade away big money stars for young talent and watch them work their way up to the bigs.

Todd

Tekneek · 04-29-2003, 12:44 PM

I have not bought it yet either.

I might just wait a long time, since my playing time is all accounted for between work, education, and all the different versions of championship manager right now.

Franklinnoble · 04-29-2003, 12:48 PM

Is there only one place to buy it?

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-29-2003, 12:55 PM

Yes it would be great to see those minor league prospects either bust or become great .....hafta wait a few weeks though till I can get rid of a few bills that are haunting me right now as I speak .

Noop · 04-29-2003, 12:59 PM

I'd be willing to giv mine away if you want it.

noop

MizzouRah · 04-29-2003, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Is there only one place to buy it?

This is the only place I know:

http://www.ootp5.com/

Todd

QuikSand · 04-29-2003, 01:12 PM

Even though I had dreadful results playing solo with the previous versions, I too am tempted to try v5. I gave a couple tries with PureSim Baseball, and really wanted to like it... but I think I've reached the conclusion that (Shaun's) its designer's "vision" for the game is just too far away from mine, and that I'll never ge what I want from it.

Perhaps I can work through the transliteration from the original German and enjoy OOTP5?

Or, maybe I'll just wait out the expansion packs for CM4, and skip baseball altogether.

Hmmm.

Anrhydeddu · 04-29-2003, 01:19 PM

QS: I'd be curious as to your reactions when (if) you have read SkyDog's modern dynasty and my historical dynasty?

MizzouRah · 04-29-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
Even though I had dreadful results playing solo with the previous versions, I too am tempted to try v5. I gave a couple tries with PureSim Baseball, and really wanted to like it... but I think I've reached the conclusion that (Shaun's) its designer's "vision" for the game is just too far away from mine, and that I'll never ge what I want from it.

Perhaps I can work through the transliteration from the original German and enjoy OOTP5?

Or, maybe I'll just wait out the expansion packs for CM4, and skip baseball altogether.

Hmmm.

Yes, Puresim just doesn't do it for me no matter how hard I try to get into it.

Ootp5 has really taken to me thus far. Although, I can't wait to see how hard it is to take the Brewers to the WS without house rules. (No I won't be trying to trade everyone for studs)

With ootp4 I won the WS in just 2 years with the Expos and another 2 years with the Devil Rays.

Todd

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-30-2003, 01:31 PM

Can I bid to build a stadium and threaten to move my team out of time or is it same as last year 's build your own stadium.?

Bee · 04-30-2003, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
Even though I had dreadful results playing solo with the previous versions, I too am tempted to try v5. I gave a couple tries with PureSim Baseball, and really wanted to like it... but I think I've reached the conclusion that (Shaun's) its designer's "vision" for the game is just too far away from mine, and that I'll never ge what I want from it.

Perhaps I can work through the transliteration from the original German and enjoy OOTP5?

Or, maybe I'll just wait out the expansion packs for CM4, and skip baseball altogether.

Hmmm.

You'll need several house rules, but I find the game enjoyable overall and I'm not a baseball fan.

Godzilla Blitz · 04-30-2003, 02:03 PM

The last version I bought was OOTP3. I've been thinking about getting this new version, but have been holding off because of a few question marks...

Can the game be made challenging with just a few simple house rules? OOTP3 seemed better suited to online play than solo play. Is OOTP5 more challenging for the solo player?

OOTP3, the last version I bought, took a lot of effort to get the financials and logistics working right for long-term play. I think I spent a week testing the game, starting a league, then restarting a league, etc. By the time I figured out how I wanted to run the game, I was tired of it, and still not sure that everything (number of players in the minors, league financials, player development, etc.) would work out in the long-run. Is it easier to get everything working right in OOTP5? Do the financials work? Is it easy to figure out how to have a stable number of players in the minors? Can all this be done in less than an hour and forgotten about, or is it a hit-or-miss, constant tweaking kind of operation?

The interface in OOTP3 was clunky and awkward. OOTP5's looks better, but does it work well?

There wasn't one particular thing that led me away from OOTP3, but all the these little things (and the psuedo-English, too) added up and made it the kind of game that I just didn't go back to after the first week of play. I didn't get enough of a kick from playing to offset all the little hassles involved with it.

Any thoughts as to whether the new version is better in these regards? Also anyone know if they are going to release OOTP5 as Season Ticket Baseball again?

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-30-2003, 02:06 PM

STB will not be released this year due to poor sales I believe.

FBPro · 04-30-2003, 04:23 PM

V5 is much more playable out of the box, there is to be no STB this year as the contract was not renewed by Infogrames.

korme · 04-30-2003, 04:37 PM

No house rules needed, and I play a fictional season or two every night.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-30-2003, 08:33 PM

Are the salaries of players cogent with their time period ie no 20 mil contracts in the 60's or do they stay the same regardless?

FBPro · 04-30-2003, 09:10 PM

They stay the same currently, there is a plan for an update which will add the salary scale to be more period accurate, for later this year.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-30-2003, 09:20 PM

Ughh....oh well might as well just buy it and wait for the patch .

superbama · 04-30-2003, 09:26 PM

I bought V5 recently. For some reason I love playing out the actual games in baseball sims(Weaver flashbacks I suppose). In previous versions I always quit out of frustrations with the scoring coding(played game no win given to either pitcher, funny saves recorded....). I have to say I'm very impressed with the work that has been done on this. I only had one small problem after a game( computer awarded loss to wrong pitcher). I'm happy. My team blows 21-41 but I'm happy.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-02-2003, 08:31 PM

Just bought it! Im amazed at all the configurations and stat tracking!

Godzilla Blitz · 05-02-2003, 09:40 PM

Chemical Soldier: Be interested to hear what you think about it.

And thanks to those who posted information and answers.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-02-2003, 10:04 PM

I'll give you an update as soon as I get the gist of things .Im pretty lost in the interface right now but that will change .

Bad-example · 05-02-2003, 11:05 PM

I am very much interested to hear how you like the game. The weak interface was the main reason I was unable to get into OOTP4.

04-29-2003, 08:44 AM	#3
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	Yeah, lots of enjoyment for sure. __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

04-29-2003, 10:15 AM	#5
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	If I start a fictional league ,say 16 teams to start with will expansion teams automatically pop up every few years or so ? __________________ Toujour Pret

04-29-2003, 12:26 PM	#8
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I'll probably investigate some more before making the deal . __________________ Toujour Pret

04-29-2003, 12:40 PM	#11
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	It is a great game! What are you waiting for? You have these your FOFC brothers who recommend it, so why not? I am about to start my 6th season, in my 32 team fictional league. What I love about it is watching all my home grown players come up each year through the minors and making into the bigs. It just makes me proud to see that happen. __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

04-29-2003, 12:55 PM	#15
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Yes it would be great to see those minor league prospects either bust or become great .....hafta wait a few weeks though till I can get rid of a few bills that are haunting me right now as I speak . __________________ Toujour Pret

04-29-2003, 08:37 AM	#2
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Good purchase, I think you'll like it. Todd

04-29-2003, 09:52 AM	#4
BFleming H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jersey	Good game...played out an entire season in a 16 team fictional league...won my division, made it to the championship, had a 3-1 series lead, then my only solid pitcher injure his back while i had a 3-0 lead in game 5, lst that game, then lost 2 more after to lose the title...still ticked about it, but all in all, it was a good time..

04-29-2003, 10:18 AM	#6
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	no, you must manually expand the league. For some reason, I havent really played it at all. I've played maybe 2 hours total in about 2 weeks of owning the game. I just can't get into to it.

04-29-2003, 12:25 PM	#7
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Easy Mac, I was that way with ootp when I first got it. A few weeks later, I'm playing it nightly. Now I'm back to FOF4, with an occasional ootp game. It goes in cycles with me. Todd

04-29-2003, 12:28 PM	#9
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Spank me for being an idiot, but does OOTP5 do much with player development in the minors? One of the things I miss about the pre-Angelos Baltimore Orioles is the way they used to really invest in their farm system and bring up home-grown talent the old-fashioned way... I'd buy OOTP5 in a minute if I could recreate that...

04-29-2003, 12:29 PM	#10
Jets80 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC	Money well spent. Just buy it.

04-29-2003, 12:44 PM	#13
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	I have not bought it yet either. I might just wait a long time, since my playing time is all accounted for between work, education, and all the different versions of championship manager right now.

04-29-2003, 12:48 PM	#14
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Is there only one place to buy it?

04-29-2003, 12:59 PM	#16
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I'd be willing to giv mine away if you want it. noop __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-29-2003, 01:12 PM	#18
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Even though I had dreadful results playing solo with the previous versions, I too am tempted to try v5. I gave a couple tries with PureSim Baseball, and really wanted to like it... but I think I've reached the conclusion that (Shaun's) its designer's "vision" for the game is just too far away from mine, and that I'll never ge what I want from it. Perhaps I can work through the transliteration from the original German and enjoy OOTP5? Or, maybe I'll just wait out the expansion packs for CM4, and skip baseball altogether. Hmmm.

04-29-2003, 01:19 PM	#19
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	QS: I'd be curious as to your reactions when (if) you have read SkyDog's modern dynasty and my historical dynasty?

04-30-2003, 01:31 PM	#21
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Can I bid to build a stadium and threaten to move my team out of time or is it same as last year 's build your own stadium.? __________________ Toujour Pret

04-30-2003, 02:03 PM	#23
Godzilla Blitz College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The last version I bought was OOTP3. I've been thinking about getting this new version, but have been holding off because of a few question marks... Can the game be made challenging with just a few simple house rules? OOTP3 seemed better suited to online play than solo play. Is OOTP5 more challenging for the solo player? OOTP3, the last version I bought, took a lot of effort to get the financials and logistics working right for long-term play. I think I spent a week testing the game, starting a league, then restarting a league, etc. By the time I figured out how I wanted to run the game, I was tired of it, and still not sure that everything (number of players in the minors, league financials, player development, etc.) would work out in the long-run. Is it easier to get everything working right in OOTP5? Do the financials work? Is it easy to figure out how to have a stable number of players in the minors? Can all this be done in less than an hour and forgotten about, or is it a hit-or-miss, constant tweaking kind of operation? The interface in OOTP3 was clunky and awkward. OOTP5's looks better, but does it work well? There wasn't one particular thing that led me away from OOTP3, but all the these little things (and the psuedo-English, too) added up and made it the kind of game that I just didn't go back to after the first week of play. I didn't get enough of a kick from playing to offset all the little hassles involved with it. Any thoughts as to whether the new version is better in these regards? Also anyone know if they are going to release OOTP5 as Season Ticket Baseball again? __________________ Current Blog Projects: Final Fantasy: Lost in Japanese Kaboom Review

04-30-2003, 02:06 PM	#24
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	STB will not be released this year due to poor sales I believe. __________________ Toujour Pret

04-30-2003, 04:23 PM	#25
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	V5 is much more playable out of the box, there is to be no STB this year as the contract was not renewed by Infogrames. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

04-30-2003, 04:37 PM	#26
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	No house rules needed, and I play a fictional season or two every night.

04-30-2003, 08:33 PM	#27
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Are the salaries of players cogent with their time period ie no 20 mil contracts in the 60's or do they stay the same regardless? __________________ Toujour Pret

04-30-2003, 09:10 PM	#28
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	They stay the same currently, there is a plan for an update which will add the salary scale to be more period accurate, for later this year. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

04-30-2003, 09:20 PM	#29
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Ughh....oh well might as well just buy it and wait for the patch . __________________ Toujour Pret

04-30-2003, 09:26 PM	#30
superbama H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle ,Wa	I bought V5 recently. For some reason I love playing out the actual games in baseball sims(Weaver flashbacks I suppose). In previous versions I always quit out of frustrations with the scoring coding(played game no win given to either pitcher, funny saves recorded....). I have to say I'm very impressed with the work that has been done on this. I only had one small problem after a game( computer awarded loss to wrong pitcher). I'm happy. My team blows 21-41 but I'm happy.

05-02-2003, 08:31 PM	#31
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Just bought it! Im amazed at all the configurations and stat tracking! __________________ Toujour Pret

05-02-2003, 09:40 PM	#32
Godzilla Blitz College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Chemical Soldier: Be interested to hear what you think about it. And thanks to those who posted information and answers. __________________ Current Blog Projects: Final Fantasy: Lost in Japanese Kaboom Review

05-02-2003, 10:04 PM	#33
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I'll give you an update as soon as I get the gist of things .Im pretty lost in the interface right now but that will change . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-02-2003, 11:05 PM	#34
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	I am very much interested to hear how you like the game. The weak interface was the main reason I was unable to get into OOTP4. __________________ Karaoke Katie drove the crowd wild Every time she'd sing they'd come in for miles Curtain came up, Katie came on Drinking like a lumberjack and singing Delta Dawn

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