The FOFC Keeper League - 2010 Season

TLK · 07-23-2010, 07:37 PM

Tentative Schedule:

Quote:

July 28th - Owners Meeting. We have two proposals up for voting. They will be posted in this thread and you can post your vote in here.

August 2nd - All keepers are due, leaving seven days before the draft to prepare. Remember, we have four keepers this year (QB,RB,WR/TE and Last Season Rookie.)

August 9th - Draft starts with a 12 hour limit per pick. The draft clock will be active from 10:00 AM EST until 12:00 AM EST. Since the FleaFlicker site doesn't offer an extended online draft, we will run this years from this messageboard. I will keep the rosters updated on FleaFlicker to make it easier on the owners.

August 23rd - Draft continues with normal draft rules. Two hours per pick with the clock active from 10:00 AM EST until 12:00 AM EST. You are encouraged to send in a list if you will not be around.

TLK · 07-23-2010, 07:38 PM

Past League Champions:
2004 - Lathum's Brew Crew
2005 - Vic's Heroes
2006 - Callous Dowboys
2007 - Callous Dowboys
2008 - Shaka's Big Shooters
2009 - Houston Hippopotami

TLK · 07-23-2010, 07:39 PM

Keeper Rules:
-The amount of years a player can be a keeper is limited to three.
-If a player is picked as a "rookie keeper", it's counts as the first year of his three.
-This number is reset if a player is moved in a trade.

2010 Keepers:

2009 Keepers:

TLK · 07-23-2010, 07:40 PM

2010 Draft Order
1- Callous Dowboys
2- Gridiron Warriors
3- Siddiqui Sillymen
4- All On Black
5- Lathum's Brew Crew
6- South Side Roughnecks
7- Vic's Heroes
8- The FOFC All-Stars
9- The Insomniacs
10- Shaka's Big Shooters
11- Sal's Trangenders
12- Houston Hippopotami

Lathum · 07-23-2010, 10:52 PM

I love this league.

ISiddiqui · 07-23-2010, 11:12 PM

Btw, do we have a count of how many years each 2009 keeper was "kept"?

TLK · 07-23-2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Btw, do we have a count of how many years each 2009 keeper was "kept"?

2009 was the first year for that rule.... so everyone that was a keeper last season is at 1.

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2010, 11:31 PM

Oh snap, #2. I like that. Probably will be the second year in a row I won't have a rookie keeper either...I love that rule, and then I never end up with rookies on my team...wtf!

ISiddiqui · 07-23-2010, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLK

2009 was the first year for that rule.... so everyone that was a keeper last season is at 1.

Ok, good... I was wondering about the rule

.

samifan24 · 07-23-2010, 11:37 PM

Keepers for the FOFC All-Stars

QB: Philip Rivers
RB: Marion Barber
WR: Roddy White
Rookie: (None)

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2010, 11:39 PM

Keepers for the Gridiron Warriors

QB: Jay Cutler
RB: Frank Gore
WR: Sidney Rice
Rookie: none (sigh)

ISiddiqui · 07-23-2010, 11:40 PM

Anyway, keepers for me:

Siddiqui Sillymen
QB: Matt Ryan, ATL
RB: Rashard Mendenhall, PIT
WR: Randy Moss, NE
Rookie: LeSean McCoy, PHI

PackerFanatic · 07-23-2010, 11:40 PM

Out of curiosity, are we allowed to make moves after the league championship game? Does Fleaflicker allow that?

samifan24 · 07-23-2010, 11:52 PM

Teams that don't keep a rookie get an extra pick at the end of the draft, right?

PackerFanatic · 07-24-2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24

Teams that don't keep a rookie get an extra pick at the end of the draft, right?

Yup

Eaglesfan27 · 07-24-2010, 02:55 PM

South Side Roughneck Keepers:

QB Carson Palmer (sigh), Bengals
RB Cedric Benson, Bengals
WR Steve Smith, Giants
Rookie: Jeremy Maclin, Eagles

Lathum · 07-24-2010, 07:50 PM

QB- Aaron Rogers- Packers
RB- Brandon Jacobs (MVP)- Giants
WR- Anquan Boldin-Ravens
Rookie- WR Hakeem Nicks- Giants

cubboyroy1826 · 07-25-2010, 12:31 AM

Insomniacs Keepers:

QB Eli Manning
RB Joseph Addai
WR Desean jackson
Rookie - None

johnnyshaka · 07-26-2010, 03:52 PM

Shaka's Big Shooters

QB - McNabb (this may change prior to deadline)
RB - Turner
WR - Marshall
Rookie - Harvin

saldana · 07-27-2010, 10:33 PM

can someone post a link to our site...i have a new computer and dont have the favorite anymore

TLK · 07-28-2010, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

can someone post a link to our site...i have a new computer and dont have the favorite anymore

Fantasy League - FOFC Keeper League - Fleaflicker

TLK · 07-28-2010, 05:02 AM

All owners will need to vote on these proposals. Majority rules. Post your votes in this thread.

1. Make the TE position a mandatory start position. The TE position would replace the WR/TE slot in the starting lineup. This would start for the 2010 season. The keeper slot would stay under it's current classification of WR or TE. Yes or No

2. Change draft order from snake to a straight draft. The draft order would be 1-12, every round based on the decided draft order. This would start with the 2011 draft. Yes or No

3. Allow off-season trades from after the championship game until before keepers are announced. Yes or No

TLK · 07-28-2010, 05:02 AM

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes

saldana · 07-28-2010, 05:59 AM

keepers

qb-manning
wr-wayne
rb-c johnson
rookie-wells

Lathum · 07-28-2010, 06:41 AM

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

Anyone who thinks the TE position isn't deep enough I'll be more than happy to cut and paste my argument about it from the other thread here.

samifan24 · 07-28-2010, 07:35 AM

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

PackerFanatic · 07-28-2010, 07:41 AM

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes

JAG · 07-28-2010, 09:30 AM

Qb Romo
Rb Peterson
Wr A. Johnson
Rookie Collie, Colts

1. No
2. Yes (except make it start in 2010

)
3. EDIT --- No

JAG · 07-28-2010, 09:35 AM

Dola

TLK, thanks for organizing us again. Great intro posts.

ISiddiqui · 07-28-2010, 09:39 AM

1. No
2. No
3. Yes

saldana · 07-28-2010, 10:22 AM

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes

MikeVic · 07-28-2010, 10:23 AM

QB - Drew Brees
RB - Steven Jackson
WR - Vincent Jackson (ungh)
Rookie - Kenny Britt

Other than Brees, not very happy (I guess StevenJax is OK too).

No
No
Yes, as long as it means you can only trade people you designate as your keepers.

cubboyroy1826 · 07-28-2010, 01:11 PM

1. No
2. No
3. Yes

johnnyshaka · 07-28-2010, 01:13 PM

1. No
2. Yes
3. No

PackerFanatic · 07-28-2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Yes, as long as it means you can only trade people you designate as your keepers.

Ditto to this for rule #3. So basically, you would still technically be keeping that person (meaning it would have to be within the rules for you to keep them), but then you trade them away. The player you receive would not count as a previous year keeper.

JAG · 07-29-2010, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Yes, as long as it means you can only trade people you designate as your keepers.

I thought about adding that caveat. I actually think I'm going to change my vote to 'no' instead.

johnnyshaka · 07-29-2010, 10:05 AM

Exactly, there should be no trading after the trade deadline until you've picked your keepers...then you can trade your keepers if you like.

TLK · 07-30-2010, 07:42 PM

Keepers:

QB- Matt Schaub
RB- DeAngelo Williams
WR- Calvin Johnson
Rookie- Michael Crabtree

Eaglesfan27 · 07-30-2010, 10:03 PM

1. Yes
2. No
3. No

TLK · 08-01-2010, 12:41 PM

bump for SI. Waiting on his votes and keepers.

TLK · 08-02-2010, 06:56 PM

One last bump for SI, before we pick his keepers for him

. He hasn't visited the board in about two weeks. Hope all is okay with him.

Lathum · 08-02-2010, 08:19 PM

I think I have his AIM, we chatted a lot during the NCAA's. I'll keep an eye out to see if he is on.

sterlingice · 08-03-2010, 08:28 AM

Sorry- new job and moving, yeah, hadn't checked the board in a couple of weeks. If keepers have been picked for me, then I'll go with what were picked. Otherwise, I can come up with some tonight

SI

sterlingice · 08-03-2010, 10:02 AM

Voting
1. No- 2011, sure I'm for approving it then. But not post-season, pre-keepers
2. No- I suppose that's more of a handicap to the previous season's player but it does encourage boom/bust cycles; I don't really have a strong feeling either way
3. Yes- if we're talking about pre-keepers being declared; seems silly after keepers have been declared

Keepers
QB: Brady
RB: Jones-Drew (enjoy Ray Rice, JAG- it was going to be one or the other)
WR: Fitzgerald
RK: Greene

SI

Lathum · 08-03-2010, 10:05 AM

SI, I don't get your logic for not voting yes for TE this season, what difference does it make if it is pre keeper/ post season?

sterlingice · 08-03-2010, 10:33 AM

TEs are easy enough to snag during the season because they're inherently almost all worth less than WRs. I suspect, if we look at last year's rosters, there are maybe 5ish TEs total on all teams. If you didn't have a good WR keeper, there's probably better value to be had with keeping a TE this season since it's much easier to get. It's not really a big deal to me but I think this year is too short of notice.

Then again, in the end, I just feel TEs are kindof stupid in a fantasy sense because there are a couple of decent ones and then everyone else gets a lucky good week every once in a while. None are as good as the #1 WRs and only a handful are even as valuable as #2 and #3 WRs. So I'm just not that inclined to include them in general.

SI

Lathum · 08-03-2010, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Then again, in the end, I just feel TEs are kindof stupid in a fantasy sense because there are a couple of decent ones and then everyone else gets a lucky good week every once in a while. None are as good as the #1 WRs and only a handful are even as valuable as #2 and #3 WRs. So I'm just not that inclined to include them in general.

SI

meh, it's like saying there aren't many good hitting catchers in baseball so we will just leave them off fantasy baseball rosters.

ISiddiqui · 08-03-2010, 10:58 AM

The difference being you have to play with a catcher in a real life baseball game. You don't have to play with a TE.

TLK · 08-03-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLK

All owners will need to vote on these proposals. Majority rules. Post your votes in this thread.

1. Make the TE position a mandatory start position. The TE position would replace the WR/TE slot in the starting lineup. This would start for the 2010 season. The keeper slot would stay under it's current classification of WR or TE.

2. Change draft order from snake to a straight draft. The draft order would be 1-12, every round based on the decided draft order. This would start with the 2011 draft.

3. Allow off-season trades from after the championship game until before keepers are announced.

1. Not passed (5-7)
2. Not passed (6-6)
3. Passed (9-3) I think the best way to go on this one is to discuss what everyone wants to do with this rule and then vote again before the off-season.

TLK · 08-03-2010, 01:59 PM

Keepers are updated on the site.

07-23-2010, 07:40 PM	#4
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	2010 Draft Order 1- Callous Dowboys 2- Gridiron Warriors 3- Siddiqui Sillymen 4- All On Black 5- Lathum's Brew Crew 6- South Side Roughnecks 7- Vic's Heroes 8- The FOFC All-Stars 9- The Insomniacs 10- Shaka's Big Shooters 11- Sal's Trangenders 12- Houston Hippopotami Last edited by TLK : 07-24-2010 at 07:21 AM. Reason: found two mistakes

07-23-2010, 11:12 PM	#6
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Btw, do we have a count of how many years each 2009 keeper was "kept"? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-23-2010, 11:31 PM	#8
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Oh snap, #2. I like that. Probably will be the second year in a row I won't have a rookie keeper either...I love that rule, and then I never end up with rookies on my team...wtf! __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL Last edited by PackerFanatic : 07-23-2010 at 11:31 PM.

07-23-2010, 11:37 PM	#10
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Keepers for the FOFC All-Stars QB: Philip Rivers RB: Marion Barber WR: Roddy White Rookie: (None) __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton Last edited by samifan24 : 07-23-2010 at 11:38 PM.

07-23-2010, 11:39 PM	#11
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Keepers for the Gridiron Warriors QB: Jay Cutler RB: Frank Gore WR: Sidney Rice Rookie: none (sigh) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-23-2010, 07:38 PM	#2
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Past League Champions: 2004 - Lathum's Brew Crew 2005 - Vic's Heroes 2006 - Callous Dowboys 2007 - Callous Dowboys 2008 - Shaka's Big Shooters 2009 - Houston Hippopotami

07-23-2010, 07:39 PM	#3
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Keeper Rules: -The amount of years a player can be a keeper is limited to three. -If a player is picked as a "rookie keeper", it's counts as the first year of his three. -This number is reset if a player is moved in a trade. 2010 Keepers: 2009 Keepers: Last edited by TLK : 08-03-2010 at 01:29 PM.

07-23-2010, 10:52 PM	#5
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I love this league.

07-23-2010, 11:40 PM	#12
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Anyway, keepers for me: Siddiqui Sillymen QB: Matt Ryan, ATL RB: Rashard Mendenhall, PIT WR: Randy Moss, NE Rookie: LeSean McCoy, PHI __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-23-2010, 11:52 PM	#14
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Teams that don't keep a rookie get an extra pick at the end of the draft, right? __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

07-24-2010, 02:55 PM	#16
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	South Side Roughneck Keepers: QB Carson Palmer (sigh), Bengals RB Cedric Benson, Bengals WR Steve Smith, Giants Rookie: Jeremy Maclin, Eagles __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-24-2010, 07:50 PM	#17
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	QB- Aaron Rogers- Packers RB- Brandon Jacobs (MVP)- Giants WR- Anquan Boldin-Ravens Rookie- WR Hakeem Nicks- Giants

07-25-2010, 12:31 AM	#18
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Insomniacs Keepers: QB Eli Manning RB Joseph Addai WR Desean jackson Rookie - None

07-26-2010, 03:52 PM	#19
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Shaka's Big Shooters QB - McNabb (this may change prior to deadline) RB - Turner WR - Marshall Rookie - Harvin

07-27-2010, 10:33 PM	#20
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	can someone post a link to our site...i have a new computer and dont have the favorite anymore

07-28-2010, 05:02 AM	#22
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	*All owners will need to vote on these proposals. Majority rules. Post your votes in this thread.* 1. Make the TE position a mandatory start position. The TE position would replace the WR/TE slot in the starting lineup. This would start for the 2010 season. The keeper slot would stay under it's current classification of WR or TE. Yes or No 2. Change draft order from snake to a straight draft. The draft order would be 1-12, every round based on the decided draft order. This would start with the 2011 draft. Yes or No 3. Allow off-season trades from after the championship game until before keepers are announced. Yes or No

07-28-2010, 05:59 AM	#24
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	keepers qb-manning wr-wayne rb-c johnson rookie-wells

07-28-2010, 06:41 AM	#25
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes Anyone who thinks the TE position isn't deep enough I'll be more than happy to cut and paste my argument about it from the other thread here.

07-28-2010, 07:35 AM	#26
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

07-28-2010, 07:41 AM	#27
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	1. Yes 2. No 3. Yes __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-28-2010, 09:30 AM	#28
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Qb Romo Rb Peterson Wr A. Johnson Rookie Collie, Colts 1. No 2. Yes (except make it start in 2010 ) 3. EDIT --- No Last edited by JAG : 07-29-2010 at 04:18 AM.

07-28-2010, 09:35 AM	#29
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Dola TLK, thanks for organizing us again. Great intro posts.

07-28-2010, 09:39 AM	#30
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	1. No 2. No 3. Yes __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-28-2010, 10:22 AM	#31
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	1. yes 2. yes 3. yes

07-28-2010, 10:23 AM	#32
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	QB - Drew Brees RB - Steven Jackson WR - Vincent Jackson (ungh) Rookie - Kenny Britt Other than Brees, not very happy (I guess StevenJax is OK too). No No Yes, as long as it means you can only trade people you designate as your keepers.

07-28-2010, 01:11 PM	#33
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	1. No 2. No 3. Yes

07-28-2010, 01:13 PM	#34
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	1. No 2. Yes 3. No

07-29-2010, 10:05 AM	#37
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Exactly, there should be no trading after the trade deadline until you've picked your keepers...then you can trade your keepers if you like.

07-30-2010, 07:42 PM	#38
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Keepers: QB- Matt Schaub RB- DeAngelo Williams WR- Calvin Johnson Rookie- Michael Crabtree

07-30-2010, 10:03 PM	#39
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	1. Yes 2. No 3. No __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

08-01-2010, 12:41 PM	#40
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	bump for SI. Waiting on his votes and keepers.

08-02-2010, 06:56 PM	#41
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	One last bump for SI, before we pick his keepers for him . He hasn't visited the board in about two weeks. Hope all is okay with him.

08-02-2010, 08:19 PM	#42
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think I have his AIM, we chatted a lot during the NCAA's. I'll keep an eye out to see if he is on.

08-03-2010, 08:28 AM	#43
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Sorry- new job and moving, yeah, hadn't checked the board in a couple of weeks. If keepers have been picked for me, then I'll go with what were picked. Otherwise, I can come up with some tonight SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 08-03-2010 at 08:29 AM.

08-03-2010, 10:02 AM	#44
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Voting 1. No- 2011, sure I'm for approving it then. But not post-season, pre-keepers 2. No- I suppose that's more of a handicap to the previous season's player but it does encourage boom/bust cycles; I don't really have a strong feeling either way 3. Yes- if we're talking about pre-keepers being declared; seems silly after keepers have been declared Keepers QB: Brady RB: Jones-Drew (enjoy Ray Rice, JAG- it was going to be one or the other) WR: Fitzgerald RK: Greene SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"