Hey, me again.. lineup confusions.. =)

[MikeVic]

It seems like my players improve in stuff that I don't train, if that is possible at all... if not.. then maybe their playmaking has gone up quite abit, since some of my players seem suited for starting, and I have them on the bench... and some seem like they should be playing in another position... here is my team, followed by who I start.

I play the 3-5-2 lineup so I can train max people at Playmaking...



Adam Dorsey
80 000 C$, 22 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Alfons Zadylak
34 000 C$, 20 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Carl Saint-Laurent
242 000 C$, 24 years, passable form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: inadequate

Danny Sutton
66 000 C$, 24 years, poor form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Dave Long
24 000 C$, 26 years, poor form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate

Don Connell
296 000 C$, 23 years, passable form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: solid

Erik Bernhardsson 3
54 000 C$, 20 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities [Technical]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: disastrous
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched

Felix Aubin
260 000 C$, 25 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Gary Hiley
340 000 C$, 23 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: solid Defending: solid
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: solid

Giovanni Moretti
78 000 C$, 27 years, passable form
Has poor experience and solid leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate

Ike Kenney
346 000 C$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: passable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

Joe Quick
108 000 C$, 25 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate

Julien Vanier
128 000 C$, 26 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: passable

Linus Dehlsten
28 000 C$, 19 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Paul Marhoefer
36 000 C$, 25 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: disastrous

Peter Badger
124 000 C$, 19 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: passable Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: passable
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

Pierre-Albert Gamache
220 000 C$, 23 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched

Ronald Dodd
68 000 C$, 28 years, poor form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: solid

Scott Sheehy
42 000 C$, 26 years, poor form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: solid Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: disastrous Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: inadequate

Stelios Eskitzis
46 000 C$, 19 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate

Viggo Rasborg
50 000 C$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Will Coutts
136 000 C$, 19 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: poor Keeper: weak
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor



My lineup is currently:

Kenney -- Aubin -- Vanier,Hiley -- Rasborg,Bernhardsson(use Moretti while Bernie is injured) -- Saint-Laurent,Connell,Eskitzis -- Quick,Gamanche


I think I need a better scorer, but that's it for now. See any lineup changes that I should make? Sell anyone? Buy anything?

All input appreciated, thanks!

[MikeVic]

Anyone?

[Doug5984]

The lineup you have appears to be good- the only thing is Dodd should be your starter at forward once his form gets better, although Gamachece's form is poor so you would probably want to start Dodd over him anyway. Besides that your lineup looks good....and that is a nice midfield you have, although you should consider training stamina for a week or 2 to get their stamina up from weak (mainly St-Laurent & Dorsey).

[dacman]

Your overall form is pretty bad. Are you just coming off training stamina? If not, I would raise your training intensity (it helps keep form up). I run 100% w/ 5 physios and while I do have more injuries than some, I'd rather have that than a bunch of guys with weak or worse form.

You probably could use a little more stamina in midfield. A better scorer looks like the best place to upgrade.

Buy? How about some better trainees --- if you're going with the playmaking route I would have (and I do have) at least 8 of my 10 middies 20 or younger (maybe they're there and I'm not seeing them?). Saint-Laurent is 24, Connell is 23 --> one of these guys should probably go unless you think you can wait 1+ seasons for them to pop. Use that cash for some younguns on the B team midfield and train away.

[sterlingice]

This is a pretty nice team. I'm guessing you've augmented it a bit since you bought it.

GK: Kenney
DW: Hiley, Vanier
DM: Aubin
WI: Saint-Laurent (towards middie), Bernhardsson
MI: Eskitzis, Zadylak, Connell
FO: Gamache, Quick/Dodd

Definately work on your form- you might want to do some general training as much as that really doesn't help your other stats. Then again, my lineup above doesn't include form. I think you would be helping yourself a lot if you put Zadylak at middie and move Laurent to wing but that assumes you can get Zadylak's form up.

At this point, I think it's time to start snagging trainees. You especially need middies who are 17yo with Inad Playmaking (and good stamina) or 18yo with passable and as many other good skills as possible. Secondly, you'll want to make sure to get some good wingers: 17-19yo with passable wing, inad playmaking or better. The rest of your B team is just windowdressing to help you win friendlies and backups should your guys get injured or form hurt a lot.

SI

[MikeVic]

Should I sell one of Saint-Laurent or Connell?

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by MikeVic
Should I sell one of Saint-Laurent or Connell?

Not unless you really have to. I think that's one of the major mistakes people here make early on. Selling your players and then replacing them with cheap alternatives and upgrading is a good idea if you know the market but you just started so unless you really need the cash- I wouldn't sell them at all. You don't have any glaring holes like most people. All you need is a little stamina training and some for recovery and you have a pretty good team.

SI

[DataKing]

Saint-Laurent looks like a good candidate for an offensive midfielder, if you don't need him on the wing.

Other than that, the line-up looks decent to me. And I agree with what has been said about trainees and a better forward.

Just out of curiousity (I'm a defender/wingback trainer kinda guy ), how many stars does Hiley typically put up? He looks like a damn fine wingback/set pieces ace.

[MikeVic]

He puts up 2 to 2 and a half all the time. Best match was putting up 3.

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by MikeVic
He puts up 2 to 2 and a half all the time. Best match was putting up 3.

With some stamina training and good form, he can put up ***~

Not someone you want to sell unless you have to and know exactly how that would fix your team.

SI

[MikeVic]

I'm training stamina this week and next. And then form for the next two weeks probably.

Didn't know good stamina and form does that much...

[DataKing]

Good form can make quite a difference, but stamina doesn't do that much for defenders. The only important thing for defenders is to have stamina of at least inadequate, otherwise you get the occasional "tired defender" event goal.

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by DataKing Good form can make quite a difference, but stamina doesn't do that much for defenders. The only important thing for defenders is to have stamina of at least inadequate, otherwise you get the occasional "tired defender" event goal.

I thought he was a middie. As a middie, stamina means tons. I have a solid middie who gets * because of his wretched stamina as opposed to **~ and *** from my starting middies.

SI

[DataKing]

I was asking about Hiley, his wingback.

[sterlingice]

Originally posted by DataKing
I was asking about Hiley, his wingback.

Oops- I wasn't reading that closely. I thought we were still talking about Saint-Laurent.

SI