Total War: Empire or Napoleon?

Dutch · 03-19-2010, 11:16 AM

What better? Patched Empire or new Napoleon?

-apoc- · 03-19-2010, 12:06 PM

New Napoleon because you can actually finish it, but a working Empire would be a better game. Unfortunately even patched Empire is still quite broken.

gstelmack · 03-19-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by -apoc-

New Napoleon because you can actually finish it, but a working Empire would be a better game. Unfortunately even patched Empire is still quite broken.

Yeah, I'm getting a bit worried by the number of crashes I'm hitting with Empire. I'm really enjoying the battles, even the naval ones, but the crashes are annoying. I may get Napoleon because I really like this style of games with firearms over swords.

DaddyTorgo · 03-19-2010, 12:12 PM

Empire is fun. I'd love to hear impressions from someone with Napoleon that I trust though, as I've only played the battle tutorial (which was hella fun).

Dutch · 03-19-2010, 12:21 PM

I'd like to buy one this weekend since I've finally got a lull in school and work and just want to play a new video game.

I'd prefer the grand European maps if possible, but yeah, I don't want to be endlessly frustrated either. So I guess I'm trying to say that I really want Empire, but feel it might be safer to go with Napoleon.

Coffee Warlord · 03-19-2010, 12:25 PM

They introduced DLC (downloadable content) in Napoleon, microtransactions and all.

This alone made me swear off it entirely.

JPhillips · 03-19-2010, 12:39 PM

I haven't played Napolean, but Empire is only fun as long as you don't expect it to be at all realistic. I find the battle AI to be poor and the campaign AI to be even worse, even with DarkMod. The terrain in battle maps is so limited you can't get much advantage/disadvantage from it. Every battle ends up being a frontal assault by the CPU regardless of whether you're attacking or defending. Defensive structures are disappointing from forts to trenchworks

But is sure does look pretty.

Dutch · 03-19-2010, 12:42 PM

I'm not getting that warm fuzzy either way here...

gstelmack · 03-19-2010, 12:55 PM

Well, download the demo(s) and give it a whirl.

And for what it's worth CW, they did that starting with Empire, lots of little units that you can optionally download. I just don't download / buy them.

DaddyTorgo · 03-19-2010, 01:25 PM

yeah. no need to DL and buy the exclusive units, just wait for the modders to work on the games

ColtCrazy · 03-19-2010, 07:09 PM

I bought Empire after Napoleon came out because of the price drop. It hasn't crashed for me at all. A little annoyed at the limited # of people you can play (EU has really spoiled me on that) but the Napoleon game would bug me for the same reason (if I'm right, you can't play a grand campaign with France, just a series of smaller campaigns)

Anyway, I love fighting the battles in Empire, but the strategy/world map part leaves A LOT to be desired. The battles are a nice fix.

Dutch · 03-20-2010, 05:31 AM

Okay....I went the cheap route and picked up Empire Total War. Might as well go in order, I suppose. Hopefully it's not a crash fest because it looks amazing.

Apathetic Lurker · 03-20-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

I bought Empire after Napoleon came out because of the price drop. It hasn't crashed for me at all. A little annoyed at the limited # of people you can play (EU has really spoiled me on that) but the Napoleon game would bug me for the same reason (if I'm right, you can't play a grand campaign with France, just a series of smaller campaigns)

Anyway, I love fighting the battles in Empire, but the strategy/world map part leaves A LOT to be desired. The battles are a nice fix.

Grand Campaign with France lasts from 1805 to the end of 1812...Figure CA wants to make more loot on an expansion....

24 turns to a year. There are some mission goals given by the AI. "Go capture Vienna to knock Austria out of the war" kind of stuff. Your minor allies can go to war with with each other. If you capture a city you can peacefully occupy, loot(capitols give lots of loot) or create new nations..

dubb93 · 03-20-2010, 10:16 PM

I have a never installed version of Empire Total War on dvd if anyone would be interested in trading for it they could send me a PM. I would be mostly looking for console games. If you are interested shoot me a PM with games that you would be willing to trade. I bought the version the day it came out but never installed it due to very poor feedback about the games stability.

EDIT: If anyone is interested I have the Wii, 360, and PS3. If a mod wants me to take this down shoot me a PM and I will take it down.

ColtCrazy · 03-21-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Grand Campaign with France lasts from 1805 to the end of 1812...Figure CA wants to make more loot on an expansion....

24 turns to a year. There are some mission goals given by the AI. "Go capture Vienna to knock Austria out of the war" kind of stuff. Your minor allies can go to war with with each other. If you capture a city you can peacefully occupy, loot(capitols give lots of loot) or create new nations..

That's good to know. I might pick up Napoleon once it gets down some. Of course, I've played Empire 3 times since I bought it. I like it, work has been so hectic lately that I just seem to veg out to Plants vs. Zombies then get into anything remotely long.

Dutch · 03-21-2010, 11:58 AM

Empire has run great on my system and it was the perfect Saturday afternoon video game fix I was looking for....and Sunday morning.

03-19-2010, 12:06 PM	#2
-apoc- H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Satellite Beach, FL	New Napoleon because you can actually finish it, but a working Empire would be a better game. Unfortunately even patched Empire is still quite broken. __________________ Share and enjoy

03-19-2010, 12:12 PM	#4
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Empire is fun. I'd love to hear impressions from someone with Napoleon that I trust though, as I've only played the battle tutorial (which was hella fun). __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

03-19-2010, 12:39 PM	#7
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I haven't played Napolean, but Empire is only fun as long as you don't expect it to be at all realistic. I find the battle AI to be poor and the campaign AI to be even worse, even with DarkMod. The terrain in battle maps is so limited you can't get much advantage/disadvantage from it. Every battle ends up being a frontal assault by the CPU regardless of whether you're attacking or defending. Defensive structures are disappointing from forts to trenchworks But is sure does look pretty. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-19-2010, 12:55 PM	#9
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Well, download the demo(s) and give it a whirl. And for what it's worth CW, they did that starting with Empire, lots of little units that you can optionally download. I just don't download / buy them. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-19-2010, 01:25 PM	#10
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah. no need to DL and buy the exclusive units, just wait for the modders to work on the games __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

03-19-2010, 12:21 PM	#5
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I'd like to buy one this weekend since I've finally got a lull in school and work and just want to play a new video game. I'd prefer the grand European maps if possible, but yeah, I don't want to be endlessly frustrated either. So I guess I'm trying to say that I really want Empire, but feel it might be safer to go with Napoleon.

03-19-2010, 12:25 PM	#6
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	They introduced DLC (downloadable content) in Napoleon, microtransactions and all. This alone made me swear off it entirely.

03-19-2010, 12:42 PM	#8
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I'm not getting that warm fuzzy either way here...

03-19-2010, 07:09 PM	#11
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I bought Empire after Napoleon came out because of the price drop. It hasn't crashed for me at all. A little annoyed at the limited # of people you can play (EU has really spoiled me on that) but the Napoleon game would bug me for the same reason (if I'm right, you can't play a grand campaign with France, just a series of smaller campaigns) Anyway, I love fighting the battles in Empire, but the strategy/world map part leaves A LOT to be desired. The battles are a nice fix. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

03-20-2010, 05:31 AM	#12
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Okay....I went the cheap route and picked up Empire Total War. Might as well go in order, I suppose. Hopefully it's not a crash fest because it looks amazing.

03-21-2010, 11:58 AM	#16
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Empire has run great on my system and it was the perfect Saturday afternoon video game fix I was looking for....and Sunday morning.

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