CM4 EP2 ready.

[atatange1]

The second enhancement pack is ready for DL. It is save game compatible but you should start over to get optimal performance.

[Tekneek]

Man. I worked days on getting my Stevenage career through a few months with all leagues and divisions active. Starting off sounds interesting for the "optimal performance" but giving up what we've already accomplished doesn't. Maybe I will just make a new game to see what happens...but keep the current one saved on standby.

[3ric]

http://play.game.net/Games/Download....04_enhance.exe

http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/bl...04_enhance.exe

http://www.theflag.cwc.net/404_enhance.exe

[3ric]

The following fixes are in this pack, please note that save games in most cases are compatible however for optimium results we always suggest starting a new game.

- Argentinian League now updates correctly after first season
- Danish league no longer becomes inactive after a season
- Swiss Playoff bug fix for when only top division is enabled.
- Croatian Cup fix for when only top division is enabled.
- FIFA Confederations Cup dates are now correct.
- Fixed European Cup qualifying news incorrectly indicating you'd been knocked out when you'd qualified
- Fixed crash where players are called up to a non existant U23 team.
- Fixed incompatibility between mac & pc versions causing different match results
- Fixed crash coming back from tactics screen pressing space bar more than once (dialog showing).
- MLS Ground Maintainance reduced
- Monthly installment payments now get paid to the correct team.
- CPU Player wage bug fixed
- Loaning promising youngsters made easier
- Value of non-old firm players in Scotland lowered
- Player screen now remembers its section when moving between player screens
- Sudden drop in player morale after winning cup fixed

This pack includes all the fixes of EP1 so you do not need to download each pack seperatly, this one will suffice.

The current fix list for EP3 (so you have the most up to date info on developments)


- Wage budget tuning for Korea, France, Holland and Germany
- Wage allowed is more responsive to profitability of clubs
- Fix rare crash when free transfer player was offered a trial at a club
- You can now click on a player history and see the detailed stats for that season.
- Goalkeeper playing history now shows goals conceded and clean sheets (and not assists and goals.)
- Loaning a player twice in a season would add the stats total tally to itself - now fixed.
- "Unknown club" not showing up for some players after free transferring them.
- Player history "loan" would sometimes be shown for wrong club.
- Tuning of finance system. Most notably the Spanish, Scottish, French, Italian and German finances
- Fixed incorrect board message being displayed at season end in some circumstances
- Tuned manager board confidence
- Limited board expectations after a club is promoted
- Fixed ground maintainance issues for smaller teams
- Fixed goalkeeper attributes not shown on team screen (physical shown instead).
- Fixed preferences screen history not working correctly (not keeping between back/next).
- Fixed "team selection" name changing to "Default" and unpicking players.
- Fixed injuries showing on player profile before computer matches are over.
- Added "Use attribute masking" to preferences screen.
- If "attribute masking" enabled, matches are no processed and masking updated if necessary.
- Live league table now does not guess goals from other human matches on the same pc which have not been played yet.
- Penalties now shown on latest scores screen.
- Wages for top end players being limited to £100+ pound is now fixed.
- Fixed friendly invitation news bug where respond button sometimes is removed before it can be used.
- Fixed a bug with competition team form values.
- Other matches can now be viewed when on the day of the match.
- Selling team now does not get chance to cancel minimum fee release clause transfers at confirmation stage.
- Fixed news item bug when a team qualifies through a league stage and the text says that they have not.
- Match screen now tells the human when it is waiting for another human in a network game.
- Added waiting dialog to match screen for when it is setting up the match.
- Added ability to respond to messages from other human players.
- News items from clubs offering players can now be ignored - a response is not necessary.
- Fixed some yearly award past histories not showing names (only club).
- Reject all offers doesn't auto reject offers that meet the minimum fee release clause
- Re-tuned personal reasons removal
- Fixed a player saying he can't accept a relegation wage cut
- Fixed some first option strings
- Fixed stadium move string.
- Human players can now be disconnected from a network client without the client having to exit.
- Ability to swap two team's divisions/nations via a config file when starting a new game
- Ability to boost a teams transfer funds/wage budget/ground capacity via a config file when starting a new game
- Ammended the praise player/criticise players recent form
- Removed duplicate UK Pounds Sterling entry in cash list
- The add manager screen now correctly saves changes to a manager's favorite club
- Fixed the repeated negotiations when you accept demands from the selling team
- Limited number of scout reports on person's information tab to 2 at a time.
- Scout would come back with reports on your own players on loan to other clubs.
- Recalling scouts now works.
- Clubs in inactive leagues removed from scout list.
- Scouting youth players now limiting age to 21 or under instead of 23.
- "Ask asst.mgr. to filter out unrealistic targets" adjusted.
- U23 national teams are now picked correctly.
- Foreign player awards does not pick non-foreign players anymore.
- Changing or removing coaches from a training schedule now works
- When a person whose contract is set to expire, signs a new contract with another club, a message is now displayed
on the person's screen saying the date he is set to join.
- Made it easier for players to recover from having personal problems
- Fixed missing first option duration length
- Ensured club's follow up enquiries for players if fee is acceptable
- Fixed news screen bug: items needing response are now always displayed, regardless of the filter settings
- Fixed incompatibility between mac & pc versions causing different match results
- Allowed the removal of 'no support from manager' unhappiness
- Disabled player praise/criticism for player who are on loan or injured
- Fixed manager being sacked string where the chairmans name was used instead of the manager's name
- Player's being unhappy about their club's transfer policy unhappiness more prevalent now
- Fixed text for cup qualification records in manager histories.
- Unhappy about being subbed now a more apparent unhappiness
- Victimised by ref now a more apparent unhappiness
- Player in superb form news adjusted downwards
- Players in a side that are out on trial are displayed in a color similar to the out on loan color.
- Player profiles will now properly showing being on a trial/out on trial instead of saying they are on a loan.
- When you can't afford your transfer bid and ask for a delay which is rejected a stray bit of text appeared 'They .' this has now been removed.

Tactics:
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- Fixed incorrect morale on tactics screen
- Fixed could not drag sub onto sub on pitch during match.
- Added always show rating during match (in addition to other info).
- Added clearer separation between first 11 and subs during match
- Added showing opposition player positions in 'specific' man marking list during match.
- Added graphics to show icons for subbed on or off during match.


Competitions:
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- Tweaked some Christmas/New Year dates for English leagues.
- Added some more loan rules for English clubs.
- Fixed problem where Argentine league was not scheduling third and fourth promotion stages properly.
- Fixed bug where French leagues were scheduling games in Jan 2002.
- English Vans Trophy now enabled if 2nd division is enabled, not just Conference.
- Fixed Swedish Premier Division break period for World Cup/Euro Champ years.
- Korea subs rule changed to 3 from 6.
- AUstrian league now has 4 rounds ( 36 matches ).
- German regional League North now relegates 4 teams not 3.
- Belgian 2nd division match time changed to 8pm.
- Russian Premier and russian cup foreigner restriction removed.
- Greek league now counts eastern block players as EU.
- Greek disciplinary system now bans a player for 2 matches after 6th yellow.
- Scottish league and fa cups now have neutral semi final venues.
- English Community Shield now has 5 subs from 7 rule.

- Argentinian League now updates correctly after first season
- Danish league no longer becomes inactive after a season
- Swiss Playoff bug fix for when only top division is enabled.
- Croatian Cup fix for when only top division is enabled.
- FIFA Confederations Cup dates are now correct.
- Fixed European Cup qualifying news incorrectly indicating you'd been knocked out when you'd qualified
- Fixed crash where players are called up to a non existant U23 team.
- Fixed incompatibility between mac & pc versions causing different match results
- Fixed crash coming back from tactics screen pressing space bar more than once (dialog showing).
- MLS Ground Maintainance reduced
- Monthly installment payments now get paid to the correct team.
- CPU Player wage bug fixed
- Loaning promising youngsters made easier
- Value of non-old firm players in Scotland lowered
- Player screen now remembers its section when moving between player screens
- Sudden drop in player morale after winning cup fixed

[Bee]

I don't see anything about printing or the scoring imbalance.

[NevStar]

I don't see anything about fixing the MLS draft either.

[JHandley]

I was under the impression they were going to tweak the ability to sell higher class players. I don't mind that I can't sell garbage, but I've had troubles selling some of my better players from a mid-table Serie A side (Udinese)

It is possible that this is not a complete list, but what they have fixed so far.


P.S.

You gotta check out the General Topic CM4 boards at sigames.com. There's a guy over there, who's got a sceenshot from a formation at the end of the game where it shows a DM playing as the keeper and the team won 5-1. This guy is just ballsitic about it, mind you it's not his screenshot, but one a 'buddy' of his sent him. He's claiming this is finally the proof that the games are pre-determined and SI Games and/or Marc is the only really deciding whether your team is going to win. Any attempts to get him to answer the question of, "How does Marc know you're going to sub your striker, and your sub goes on to score the winning goal?" have gone unanswered. Good times.

[Bee]

I hope it's not a complete list, especially for patch 3.

[BreizhManu]

Originally posted by NevStar
I don't see anything about fixing the MLS draft either.

Marc said in another thread that there are going to be fixes for the MLS too but that they aren't on the list.

[bbor]

Woohoo...i just got mine today...good timing to match with the latest patch

[Radii]

hmm wow thinking that maybe i'll wait for EP3 and re-start a new dynasty then.

[klayman]

Originally posted by Radii
hmm wow thinking that maybe i'll wait for EP3 and re-start a new dynasty then.

I'm with ya. Especially with the wage problem handicapping lower league teams. And as far as I've heard, the list is not final for EP3.

[Radii]

Yeah I don't want to get too involved in something that I know I'm going to want to start over once some more of these issues are hashed out That list for EP3 looks mmm mmm good though.

[McSweeny]

any ETA on EP3?

[Bee]

Originally posted by McSweeny
any ETA on EP3?

Marc said something about the end of the month.

[rexalllsc]

I'll just screw around with the game, getting used to the feel until then. It took me a few dynasties to know WTF I was doing in the first place...

[andy m]

guess i'll play my other new games till EP3 then, hopefully it ends up fixing the striker scoring problem and the score change error. the existance of both sort of makes me not want to play at the moment, which is a shame, because i know there is an amazing game inside waiting to get out.

[McSweeny]

Originally posted by rexalllsc
I'll just screw around with the game, getting used to the feel until then. It took me a few dynasties to know WTF I was doing in the first place...

makes me less upset that my copy is still on backorder over at gogamer.com

[rexalllsc]

Originally posted by McSweeny
makes me less upset that my copy is still on backorder over at gogamer.com

Yah...I started playing cm3 again last night (hadnt played in about 4 months), and I totally forgot the interface, so I figure the next few weeks I can just get accustomed to the interface, new tactics, etc. until ep3 comes out and I can really get goin...

[GrantDawg]

At this point, I might not get mine untill ep3 comes out. Really disappointed the MLS draft problem is not listed. Hope it does get fixed and soon.

[rexalllsc]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
At this point, I might not get mine untill ep3 comes out. Really disappointed the MLS draft problem is not listed. Hope it does get fixed and soon.

Dude - yer all about the EPL.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Why is it when I saw this, I thought CM4 Episode 2? Too much Star Wars on the brain heh.

This one is a good one:

- Monthly installment payments now get paid to the correct team.

Yay! Episode 3 looks pretty good too. I am sure they are working on the forwards thing also.

[aquavit]

Also no word on when the match X of Y attributes in the player search section like in CM3 is going to be added. I figure that would be a pretty easy fix and it's important.

Can't wait for the MLS draft to be fixed!

[QuikSand]

Nothing to see here, for my tastes. I guess I wait until patch three, or four, or whatever.

[BucDawg40]

It's too bad this game was released at least two months too early. The list of bugs for EP 3 is not even close to complete as I have seen several in my game that are not even listed.

Like somebody over at the SI forum said: "This is the best game they have ever made, but the worst they have ever released."

[JonInMiddleGA]

"This is the best game they have ever made, but the worst they have ever released."

I don't know if that's an accurate description of the state of the game or not. I guess the only way to know for sure would be to buy it myself and find out.

But it's a scary enough quote, one that describes a feeling I've had way too many times myself, that it pretty much assures I won't be buying the game until at least another couple of patches are out.

[andy m]

there is no way it is worse than the original CM1, heh.

[ice4277]

I agree there are a lot of problems that still need to be worked out with the game, but I think part of the problem is that the last couple versions have been so damn good, it makes this one look worse than it actually is. CM4 is not an upgrade of CM3 as the last 3 versions have been, its an enitrely new game built from the ground up. So I'm willing to cut them more slack than I would have if these problems were coming from a game based on CM3.

[Katon]

CM4 is definitely a whole new breed of football management. Granted, it's having teething toubles at the moment, but even with them it's still an improvement on CM3. Once they refine it past the rough edges, it'll be great.

[aquavit]

Originally posted by BucDawg40
It's too bad this game was released at least two months too early. The list of bugs for EP 3 is not even close to complete as I have seen several in my game that are not even listed.

Like somebody over at the SI forum said: "This is the best game they have ever made, but the worst they have ever released."

Released two months too early at the minimum. I understand that they want to get the game out there but selling what is basically a beta isn't going to help you pull in new fans. As I'm already a SI convert I know this game is going to be best thing ever once 6 or 7 patches come out but right now I can't recommend CM4 to any of my friends who haven't played CM before.

[Tekneek]

Despite the problems some people are having, I have played a few months and have not experienced any show stopping events yet. I am managing Stevenage Borough in the English Conference, and have every league and division active in the game with all the England divisions on full detail.

[Ryan S]

Originally posted by aquavit
Released two months too early at the minimum.

I disagree. If the game had been released two months down the line, most of the bugs present would have still been in place. With a game this complex, you are going to find a ton of bugs when 100,000+ users start playing with dozens of different configurations.

I don't think it is possible to release a totally new Championship Manager game without a number of bugs slipping through the net. SI just has to make sure that the ones that do slip through are not too crippling.

Like somebody over at the SI forum said: "This is the best game they have ever made, but the worst they have ever released."

It is not even close to being the worst they have ever released.

That user obviously has never played a previous version of CM. CM 99/00, 00/01 and 01/02 were versions of CM3, so most of the bugs with the game engine had gone by the time the games were released, so the games were very playable out of the box.

The original CM3 on the other hand had many, many more gamekilling problems than CM4. I had dozens of crashes with CM3, and it took several months before the game was stable enough for me to play. I have not experienced a single crash with CM4, so it is already in a playable state and a few tweaks away from being incredible.

[Bee]

Ryan S. posts so seldom I didn't want him to have a threadkill...

[aquavit]

Originally posted by Ryan S
I disagree. If the game had been released two months down the line, most of the bugs present would have still been in place. With a game this complex, you are going to find a ton of bugs when 100,000+ users start playing with dozens of different configurations.

I don't think it is possible to release a totally new Championship Manager game without a number of bugs slipping through the net. SI just has to make sure that the ones that do slip through are not too crippling.

But there are major bugs with the initial release (financial system, disappearing goals, no MLS draft, some leagues you can only play one season, etc.). Looking at what will be fixed with EP3 there are still major items that might not be addressed. So it's pretty reasonable to say that this game should have been released at least two months later when these major bugs would have been fixed to begin with.