Bull Durham celebration at HOF cancelled

bigdawg2003 · 04-10-2003, 10:01 AM

http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0409/1536711.html

This is ridiculous. How would comments from 2 past their peak actors affect the war in Iraq?

Fritz · 04-10-2003, 10:06 AM

by formenting discontent.

Cards4ever · 04-10-2003, 10:10 AM

I love it! These stars cry free speech, but can't handle the heat when people excerise their rights to slam, not buy, or criticize these guys.

Tim, you have your right to spout whatever you want, he also has the right to run his business however he wants.

Butter · 04-10-2003, 10:38 AM

I was wondering what the hell that headline meant on espn.com. I just skipped over it.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-10-2003, 10:43 AM

I just saw this myself. All I can say is "Bravo" to the HoF.

Anrhydeddu · 04-10-2003, 11:05 AM

Imo, I have felt that Bull Durham was one of the worst baseball movies of all time so despite the politics, it shouldn't even had been honored at the HoF in the first place.

oykib · 04-10-2003, 11:25 AM

That's nonsense. One has nothing to do with the other. Robbins and Sarandon weren't even supposed to be at the event. They might have a case if they were worried about those two using the event as forum.

oykib · 04-10-2003, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by oykib
That's nonsense. One has nothing to do with the other. Robbins and Sarandon weren't even supposed to be at the event. They might have a case if they were worried about those two using the event as forum.

How could you call Bull Durham one of the worst baseball movies of all time? I mean, it's not 'The Natural' or 'The Bad News Bears', but there are really boatloads of really bad baseball movies that are wasting celluloid around the world.

Cards4ever · 04-10-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by oykib
That's nonsense. One has nothing to do with the other. Robbins and Sarandon weren't even supposed to be at the event. They might have a case if they were worried about those two using the event as forum.

Sounds like Robbins was supposed to be there to me

"In his letter, Robbins said he'd been looking forward to "a weekend away from politics and war." He said he remained "skeptical" of the war plans and told Petroskey he did not realize baseball was "a Republican sport.""

scooper · 04-10-2003, 11:36 AM

Heh Heh. Baseball is to the Republicans as Hollywood is to the Republican Guard.

Anrhydeddu · 04-10-2003, 11:39 AM

oykib, like with a lot of things, it comes from expectations. I think something becomes "worse" if it significantly fails to meet your expectations as oppose to something that you had no expectations on. This was true with Bull Durham. I attended quite a few games there before they become famous and went big-time. In fact, I remember the casting call announcement for extras in the stands but I would have left school by the time they started shooting. If one can overlook its vulgarness, this was not the type of movie I would have made about the Durham Bulls. That's all.

JPhillips · 04-10-2003, 11:56 AM

"We believe your very public criticism of President Bush at this important -- and sensitive -- time in our nation's history helps undermine the U.S. position..."

This is the part that bothers me. Petroskey, a former Reagan official btw, focuses on criticizing the President. His message seems to imply that no one should be allowed to criticize Bush about anything regarding the war. That's nonsense. Why the hell is this president supposed to be immune from criticism?

Its funny how actors who criticize the war are told to shut up because they don't know what they are talking about, but a guy who works at a baseball museum is considered to have special insight about right and wrong.

Ksyrup · 04-10-2003, 12:03 PM

I don't agree with what the guy did, regardless of whether it was *his* right to do it. I think this was the combination of two things - a former GOP administration official who knows what the views of Robbins and Sarandon are and disagrees with them and the Michael Moore incident. I think this guy just didn't feel like taking the chance that they would turn the event into a soapbox for their views the way Moore did, particularly given his beliefs on the issue.

I would have simply asked them nicely not to make any political comments, and if they did, I would have had someone ready to pull the plug on the mic and cut the chord holding back the catapults with rotten tomatoes and eggs aimed at the stage.

I think Bull Durham is a great baseball movie. And, despite the fact that I'm a conservative, I think bob Roberts is a great movie as well. I still think they're a couple of quacks, though!

Craptacular · 04-10-2003, 05:07 PM

04-10-2003, 10:06 AM	#2
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	by formenting discontent. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

04-10-2003, 10:10 AM	#3
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	I love it! These stars cry free speech, but can't handle the heat when people excerise their rights to slam, not buy, or criticize these guys. Tim, you have your right to spout whatever you want, he also has the right to run his business however he wants. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

04-10-2003, 10:38 AM	#4
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I was wondering what the hell that headline meant on espn.com. I just skipped over it. __________________ My listening habits

04-10-2003, 10:43 AM	#5
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I just saw this myself. All I can say is "Bravo" to the HoF. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-10-2003, 11:56 AM	#12
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	"We believe your very public criticism of President Bush at this important -- and sensitive -- time in our nation's history helps undermine the U.S. position..." This is the part that bothers me. Petroskey, a former Reagan official btw, focuses on criticizing the President. His message seems to imply that no one should be allowed to criticize Bush about anything regarding the war. That's nonsense. Why the hell is this president supposed to be immune from criticism? Its funny how actors who criticize the war are told to shut up because they don't know what they are talking about, but a guy who works at a baseball museum is considered to have special insight about right and wrong. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

04-10-2003, 11:05 AM	#6
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	Imo, I have felt that Bull Durham was one of the worst baseball movies of all time so despite the politics, it shouldn't even had been honored at the HoF in the first place.

04-10-2003, 11:25 AM	#7
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	That's nonsense. One has nothing to do with the other. Robbins and Sarandon weren't even supposed to be at the event. They might have a case if they were worried about those two using the event as forum.

04-10-2003, 11:36 AM	#10
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Heh Heh. Baseball is to the Republicans as Hollywood is to the Republican Guard.

04-10-2003, 11:39 AM	#11
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	oykib, like with a lot of things, it comes from expectations. I think something becomes "worse" if it significantly fails to meet your expectations as oppose to something that you had no expectations on. This was true with Bull Durham. I attended quite a few games there before they become famous and went big-time. In fact, I remember the casting call announcement for extras in the stands but I would have left school by the time they started shooting. If one can overlook its vulgarness, this was not the type of movie I would have made about the Durham Bulls. That's all.

04-10-2003, 12:03 PM	#13
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't agree with what the guy did, regardless of whether it was his right to do it. I think this was the combination of two things - a former GOP administration official who knows what the views of Robbins and Sarandon are and disagrees with them and the Michael Moore incident. I think this guy just didn't feel like taking the chance that they would turn the event into a soapbox for their views the way Moore did, particularly given his beliefs on the issue. I would have simply asked them nicely not to make any political comments, and if they did, I would have had someone ready to pull the plug on the mic and cut the chord holding back the catapults with rotten tomatoes and eggs aimed at the stage. I think Bull Durham is a great baseball movie. And, despite the fact that I'm a conservative, I think bob Roberts is a great movie as well. I still think they're a couple of quacks, though! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-10-2003, 05:07 PM	#14
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	bump

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