My own sick curiosity

RendeR · 04-09-2003, 03:05 PM

OK, there have been more pro war / anti war postings than I care to count. but one thing I'm having a hard time adding up is this:

What do you think are the major motivations for this conflict?

I'll add a poll with some options

feel free to toss your own in here.

Ren

scooper · 04-09-2003, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RendeR

feel free to toss your own in here.

Ren

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Draft Dodger · 04-09-2003, 03:16 PM

Bush got into a game of chicken with Saddam and couldn't back down without losing face.

Fritz · 04-09-2003, 03:17 PM

Busch is a cheap beer

JeeberD · 04-09-2003, 03:18 PM

It tastes very oaty...

Fritz · 04-09-2003, 03:19 PM

Other: Iraq is the ideal place for power politics.

scooper · 04-09-2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeeberD
It tastes very oaty...

What does? The French opposition?

Maple Leafs · 04-09-2003, 03:20 PM

Shouldn't there be an option for "The US believes Saddam has or is close to obtaining WMDs, and the use of force was the only best for disarming him"?

You know, the reason they said they were doing it?

scooper · 04-09-2003, 03:20 PM

Lebensraum for the collosal squid.

Bee · 04-09-2003, 03:22 PM

What the heck is French opposition? I've never heard of it and it doesn't show up in any history books I've read.

JeeberD · 04-09-2003, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooper
What does? The French opposition?

Iraq's oil, silly. Nothing like a swig of nice, cold, oaty petroleum...

Havok · 04-09-2003, 03:24 PM

to bad we dont need there oil. Espically if the tree huggers would let us drill in alaska.

Franklinnoble · 04-09-2003, 03:26 PM

1. Saddam Hussein was meant to disarm following his invasion of Kuwait in 1991. He never did. If somebody doesn't put some teeth in these UN resolutions, then all they're good for is sucking dictator schlong.

2. Saddam Hussein has killed, tortured, and oppressed his people for 20 years. I say, when we're done with him, we work on liberating China and North Korea. Commie bastards.

3. After the fall of the Taliban, Iraq was one of the few nations left that was an open haven for terrorists. We ought to steer the tanks towards Syria and Saudi Arabia and hunt down the fundamentalists in those countries, too. (Forgive me if I'm leaving a few other nations out... this is an impromptu post). Terrorists have declared war on the US, and it's time we showed the world that when you fuck with the bull, you get the horns. Period.

scooper · 04-09-2003, 03:29 PM

If I were going to fuck a bull, I'd probably try the end opposite the horns.

Franklinnoble · 04-09-2003, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooper
If I were going to fuck a bull, I'd probably try the end opposite the horns.

Hmm... yeah, unless the bull gives good oral...

The Afoci · 04-09-2003, 03:34 PM

mmmm.... oral from bulls....

Hammer755 · 04-09-2003, 04:03 PM

I agree with the ideas, if not the exact verbiage

, noted by franlkinnoble, but perhaps in a different order. In my opinion, #1 on the list is by far the most crucial, with #2 being less important, and #3, while not necessarily a reason in my mind, is on of the resulting benefits of a regime change.

1. Iraq is a sponsor of international terrorism and harbors and trains terrorists. Even if Iraq is not directly implicated in the 9/11 hijackings, it is tough to doubt that they have the capability to support a similar attack. President Bush said multiple times flat out that the US would be coming after those who supported and harbored terrorists.

2. Saddam lost the Gulf War, he signed the surrender treaty. One of the key components of the cease fire was Saddam's complete removal of WMD. Iraq should be bending over backwards to show the world they have rid themselves of these weapons, yet the world has tried to shift the burden of proof to the US to show he has some. I think there is clearly enough evidence to suggest that Iraq maintains a significant supply of chemical and biological weapons and was agressively seeking the means to nuclear weapons.

3. Liberation of the Iraqi population from Saddam Hussein's dictatorship. People can cite civilian casualties resulting from this war ad nauseum, but it is likely that the US will save far more people from death at Saddam's hands then will be killed from this entire campaign.

RendeR · 04-10-2003, 09:01 AM

Interesting poll so far, and a couple people even posted more valuable info as well, some of you, well...nevermind, I'm not gonna throw french opposition at you, I ran out in 1910......

View Poll Results: What is the MAJOR motivation for this war?(you can choose more than 1)
America is the defender of freedom!	23	38.33%
Busch just wants more oil for our SUVs	13	21.67%
Bin Laden got away, Saddam didn't	15	25.00%
We want to root out Muslin fundementalists everywhere	8	13.33%
Busch is getting revenge for Dad	17	28.33%
This had to happen, so why wait?	28	46.67%
The French opposition forced the timing	5	8.33%
The White House wanted to strike first, before he gassed millions more	20	33.33%
Fuck it, we're the United States and OUR tanks are bigger and badder than YOUR tanks!	19	31.67%
Other: please post in the thread!	5	8.33%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

04-09-2003, 03:17 PM	#4
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	Busch is a cheap beer __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

04-09-2003, 03:18 PM	#5
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	It tastes very oaty... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

04-09-2003, 03:19 PM	#6
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	Other: Iraq is the ideal place for power politics. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

04-09-2003, 03:20 PM	#8
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Shouldn't there be an option for "The US believes Saddam has or is close to obtaining WMDs, and the use of force was the only best for disarming him"? You know, the reason they said they were doing it? Last edited by Maple Leafs : 04-09-2003 at 03:23 PM.

04-09-2003, 03:16 PM	#3
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Bush got into a game of chicken with Saddam and couldn't back down without losing face. __________________ Mile High Hockey

04-09-2003, 03:20 PM	#9
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Lebensraum for the collosal squid.

04-09-2003, 03:22 PM	#10
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	What the heck is French opposition? I've never heard of it and it doesn't show up in any history books I've read.

04-09-2003, 03:24 PM	#12
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	to bad we dont need there oil. Espically if the tree huggers would let us drill in alaska. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

04-09-2003, 03:26 PM	#13
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	1. Saddam Hussein was meant to disarm following his invasion of Kuwait in 1991. He never did. If somebody doesn't put some teeth in these UN resolutions, then all they're good for is sucking dictator schlong. 2. Saddam Hussein has killed, tortured, and oppressed his people for 20 years. I say, when we're done with him, we work on liberating China and North Korea. Commie bastards. 3. After the fall of the Taliban, Iraq was one of the few nations left that was an open haven for terrorists. We ought to steer the tanks towards Syria and Saudi Arabia and hunt down the fundamentalists in those countries, too. (Forgive me if I'm leaving a few other nations out... this is an impromptu post). Terrorists have declared war on the US, and it's time we showed the world that when you fuck with the bull, you get the horns. Period.

04-09-2003, 03:29 PM	#14
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	If I were going to fuck a bull, I'd probably try the end opposite the horns.

04-09-2003, 03:34 PM	#16
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	mmmm.... oral from bulls.... __________________ I had something.

04-09-2003, 04:03 PM	#17
Hammer755 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, TX	I agree with the ideas, if not the exact verbiage , noted by franlkinnoble, but perhaps in a different order. In my opinion, #1 on the list is by far the most crucial, with #2 being less important, and #3, while not necessarily a reason in my mind, is on of the resulting benefits of a regime change. 1. Iraq is a sponsor of international terrorism and harbors and trains terrorists. Even if Iraq is not directly implicated in the 9/11 hijackings, it is tough to doubt that they have the capability to support a similar attack. President Bush said multiple times flat out that the US would be coming after those who supported and harbored terrorists. 2. Saddam lost the Gulf War, he signed the surrender treaty. One of the key components of the cease fire was Saddam's complete removal of WMD. Iraq should be bending over backwards to show the world they have rid themselves of these weapons, yet the world has tried to shift the burden of proof to the US to show he has some. I think there is clearly enough evidence to suggest that Iraq maintains a significant supply of chemical and biological weapons and was agressively seeking the means to nuclear weapons. 3. Liberation of the Iraqi population from Saddam Hussein's dictatorship. People can cite civilian casualties resulting from this war ad nauseum, but it is likely that the US will save far more people from death at Saddam's hands then will be killed from this entire campaign. __________________ I failed Signature 101 class.

04-10-2003, 09:01 AM	#18
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Interesting poll so far, and a couple people even posted more valuable info as well, some of you, well...nevermind, I'm not gonna throw french opposition at you, I ran out in 1910...... __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

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