College Football Week 13 (Rivalry Week) discussion

cartman · 11-25-2009, 08:39 AM

This weekend is the last week of the regular season for most teams. There are a ton of rivalry games going on this weekend, including:

Texas at Texas A&M
Alabama at Auburn
Pitt at West Virginia
Ole Miss at Mississippi State
Oklahoma State at Oklahoma
Florida State at Florida
Missouri v. Kansas
Utah at BYU
UCLA at USC

And I'm sure there are several more that I've missed. (edit: yep!)

Washington State at Washington
Clemson at South Carolina
Georgia at Georgia Tech
Arizona at Arizona State

Rivalry games are always great to watch, because there is a whole lot of unpredictability in these matchups.

Dr. Sak · 11-25-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

And I'm sure there are several more that I've missed. Rivalry games are always great to watch, because there is a whole lot of unpredictability in these matchups.

But in reality none of them really matter.

cartman · 11-25-2009, 08:45 AM

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But in reality none of them really matter.

I can't imagine being a Big 10 fan, having your teams play their final regular season game in mid-November.

Kodos · 11-25-2009, 08:58 AM

Yep. This is a sucky aspect of being a Big Ten fan.

Dr. Sak · 11-25-2009, 09:04 AM

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I can't imagine being a Big 10 fan, having your teams play their final regular season game in mid-November.

Next year it'll all change. They get a bye week in 2010 and beyond so the regular season will be extended by one week.

Kodos · 11-25-2009, 09:09 AM

Being an Indiana fan, the football season ending early actually turns out to be a blessing. Plus, we don't have to hear about Iowa either, so that's nice.

Lathum · 11-25-2009, 09:11 AM

ahem

Apple Cup

ahem

cartman · 11-25-2009, 09:15 AM

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ahem

Apple Cup

ahem

I knew I was forgetting another one. I should have remembered this one, because a buddy of mine's nephew is a redshirt freshman for Wazzou.

Lathum · 11-25-2009, 09:16 AM

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I knew I was forgetting another one. I should have remembered this one, because a buddy of mine's nephew is a redshirt freshman for Wazzou.

my condolences.

Kodos · 11-25-2009, 09:22 AM

Could be worse. He could play for the Giants.

Passacaglia · 11-25-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Next year it'll all change. They get a bye week in 2010 and beyond so the regular season will be extended by one week.

That's too bad. I kind of liked having the season end early, it seemed 'old-school' to me for some reason. This is probably done to help Big Ten teams stay in the media spotlight for another week, so that they don't run the risk of being forgotten by voters for the last two weeks of the season. Also, since I'm visiting family on Thanksgiving weekend, I don't get to watch football as much.

cartman · 11-25-2009, 09:31 AM

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Also, since I'm visiting family on Thanksgiving weekend, I don't get to watch football as much.

In our family, everything gets scheduled around the football games.

Butter · 11-25-2009, 09:31 AM

Clemson v. South Carolina?

Passacaglia · 11-25-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

In our family, everything gets scheduled around the football games.

Sadly, not mine. We spend most of our time at my aunt and uncle's, and if the TV is on, he's usually watching golf. But usually we're out shopping or something.

We alternate, though -- this year with lurker's family. That works well, since we don't usually go anywhere, and they don't care what's on TV. Plus, this year we're hosting, so football *will* be on.

MacroGuru · 11-25-2009, 09:43 AM

Utah @ BYU is going to be crazy this year. TCU will finish undefeated and get an at large invite.

The winner of the BYU - Utah game gets the Las Vegas bowl while the other gets the Poinsetta Bowl. The funny thing is, the Vegas Bowl does not want BYU for the 4th year straight, however they will take them because it's a guaranteed sell out for them.

And depending on how the PAC 10 shakes out, both bowl games could be fun.

Honolulu Blue · 11-25-2009, 09:50 AM

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I can't imagine being a Big 10 fan, having your teams play their final regular season game in mid-November.

I'm used to it. What seems weird is having other conferences play their games up to two weeks later.

Insight.com Bowl, here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedKingGold · 11-25-2009, 09:58 AM

Big Ten fans and Boise State fans are cheering for Oklahoma this week. Big time.

RedKingGold · 11-25-2009, 09:59 AM

dola

This is the least interested I've been in any college football season since liking sports.

Not sure if this is the RedZone channel totaling consuming my Sundays (making Saturday important to get stuff done), the Phillies late playoff run, or just the unfortunate boring nature by which this college football season played out.

cartman · 11-25-2009, 10:04 AM

I'm a little leery of the Longhorns game tomorrow. A&M has always played the Horns tough at home against their biggest rival. Even the mighty 2005 team struggled in the final game against A&M. The Aggies are 6-5. Their margin of victory in the 6 wins was 27 points. They lost the 5 games by an average of 30 points. I think Texas wins, but I wouldn't be surprised if the game is close.

molson · 11-25-2009, 10:05 AM

Since Syracuse is apparently unstoppable when I'm present, I'm thinking about making the trip down to UConn on Saturday.

Radii · 11-25-2009, 10:09 AM

Georgia Tech/Georgia!

Logan · 11-25-2009, 10:43 AM

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Since Syracuse is apparently unstoppable when I'm present, I'm thinking about making the trip down to UConn on Saturday.

With it being a noon game and therefore not that much time for their fans to grow their beer muscles, if you wear orange you probably won't get too much crap thrown on you.

timmynausea · 11-25-2009, 11:27 AM

Despite the line opening as a pick 'em, it seems like a lot of WVU insiders think Pitt should win fairly easily. The consensus is that Pitt has more talent and depth almost everywhere. It's definitely true along both lines. Pitt has a great d-line, where WVU has talent but injuries have hurt. WVU's offensive line has been absolutely horrid, though.

You never know in a rivalry game, though.

digamma · 11-25-2009, 11:34 AM

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Georgia Tech/Georgia!

We're staying in LA for Thanksgiving, so I won't be at the game. It made me look up when the last home GT-UGA game I missed was. 1983.

That bums me out a little.

Lathum · 11-25-2009, 12:00 PM

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We're staying in LA for Thanksgiving, so I won't be at the game. It made me look up when the last home GT-UGA game I missed was. 1983.

That bums me out a little.

Wow, that is quiet the impressive stretch. We stay home for the weekend also, it is such a pain to go back for just a few days.

I think this year is the first in about 25 or so that I won't go to at least one Rutgers game.

digamma · 11-25-2009, 12:58 PM

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Wow, that is quiet the impressive stretch. We stay home for the weekend also, it is such a pain to go back for just a few days.

I think this year is the first in about 25 or so that I won't go to at least one Rutgers game.

Or it just means I'm getting old!

dawgfan · 11-25-2009, 01:48 PM

This week reminds me that I wonder whatever happened with WSUCougar?

digamma · 11-25-2009, 01:52 PM

Coug is still an active IHOF'er.

Blade6119 · 11-25-2009, 02:15 PM

Ill be attending the Arizona State-Arizona game!! Thats a big deal down here, supposedly the oldest consecutive rivalry in the nation since like 1893 or something.

And I wish I could attend Mizzou-Kansas, should be a great game!

MikeVic · 11-25-2009, 03:20 PM

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I haven't been super into college football before... I'll watch parts of games, and watched the entire Vince Young bowl game a few years ago... but I read somewhere about Troy Polamalu's cousin (Maika Polamalu) being ready to enter college.

Does anyone know where he can likely end up? Maybe following his career will get me into U.S. college football.

dawgfan · 11-25-2009, 03:31 PM

Maika Polamalu is a 2011 recruit, so he's just a Jr. in High School this year. He must be fairly well regarded as he's already designated a 4-star recruit by Scout.com, and he already has an offer from Penn State.

timmynausea · 11-25-2009, 03:44 PM

The Pitt rivals site just did an article on Polamalu yesterday. It looks like he actually might be the 2nd highest regarded 2011 recruit on his team - athletic QB Terrell Chestnut already has offers from Pitt, Rutgers and WVU. Penn State is Polamalu's only D1 offer so far, and his dad played there, so it seems like they will be the team to beat. He did mention that he has been lax about sending his highlight tape out to schools, though, and it's really early, so I'm guessing he'll get a bunch of offers in the spring and summer.

Swaggs · 11-25-2009, 03:56 PM

He just got some coverage on the local news here, as well. I think the smart money is on him landing at Penn State, but if he wants to play the recruiting game to its fullest, he will probably end up with offers from most of the Big East, Big 10, and ACC schools.

MJ4H · 11-26-2009, 07:10 PM

Anyone but me watching the Texas - Texas A&M game? A&M jumps right out to a 7-0 lead.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-26-2009, 07:11 PM

I am watching and rooting for Texas A&M. Nice start.

Noop · 11-26-2009, 07:17 PM

Silly risk by Mack Brown

MJ4H · 11-26-2009, 07:17 PM

haha he got destroyed

JonInMiddleGA · 11-26-2009, 08:20 PM

14-14 with about 5 mins left in the first half.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-26-2009, 08:21 PM

Damn, no sooner do I post that ... 21-14 Texas, McCoy to Shipley for the 2nd time in the half.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-26-2009, 08:31 PM

Touchdown Aggies, 21-21 less than a minute left in the first half.

Karlifornia · 11-26-2009, 08:34 PM

McCoy led a National Title quality 1 minute offense there.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-26-2009, 08:34 PM

Darn. That was an impressive quick drive by Texas.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-26-2009, 08:38 PM

Well fuck.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-26-2009, 10:13 PM

That was a heck of a throw and catch by Texas A&M.

MJ4H · 11-26-2009, 10:18 PM

Well fuck.

Swaggs · 11-26-2009, 10:52 PM

That was a fun game to watch.

RainMaker · 11-27-2009, 02:22 AM

Giving up 532 yards to a mediocre offense like Texas A&M. Imagine what a good offense would do to it.

BishopMVP · 11-27-2009, 04:34 AM

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Giving up 532 yards to a mediocre offense like Texas A&M. Imagine what a good offense would do to it.

Texas A&M came in to the game 7th in the nation in yards/game, 10-15 yards behind Cincinnati and Texas Tech for the highest amongst BCS schools. (Houston, Nevada, Troy and TCU are the non-BCS schools.)

Oh well, just another boring game against a weaker opponent.

RainMaker · 11-27-2009, 04:59 AM

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Texas A&M came in to the game 7th in the nation in yards/game, 10-15 yards behind Cincinnati and Texas Tech for the highest amongst BCS schools. (Houston, Nevada, Troy and TCU are the non-BCS schools.)

Oh well, just another boring game against a weaker opponent.

Yards per game in college football is a tough statistic. Most of their big yardage games came against some really weak competition. When they did play a strong defense in Oklahoma, they were held to 225 yards.

I'm not saying they are bad or anything as they are definitely in the upper half of the Big 12 offensively. I just don't think it's an offense that should be putting up those kind of numbers on a NC team. A&M exposed a lot of holes in that defense tonight.

BishopMVP · 11-27-2009, 05:59 AM

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Yards per game in college football is a tough statistic. Most of their big yardage games came against some really weak competition. When they did play a strong defense in Oklahoma, they were held to 225 yards.

I'm not saying they are bad or anything as they are definitely in the upper half of the Big 12 offensively. I just don't think it's an offense that should be putting up those kind of numbers on a NC team. A&M exposed a lot of holes in that defense tonight.

Sure it's imperfect, but calling them a mediocre offense is clearly wrong (and harping on their competition isn't very relevant when comparing them to teams like Houston, Troy and Nevada). The closest thing to a decent computer model I've found is FO FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | FEI COLLEGE FOOTBALL RATINGS 2009 (and it isn't close to as trustworthy as their pro models), and A&M ranks 11th overall and 27th in opponent-adjusted ranks coming in (the latter will surely jump as Texas was 1st/11th defensively coming in), both right around Florida, Alabama and TCU. Cincinnati (and Georgia Tech) have statistically significantly better offenses, but their defenses are also noticeably worse.

Using one game against Oklahoma is also misleading because Texas A&M has been a schizophrenic team - witness the blowout loss to K-State, blowout win over Texas Tech combo - and a night rivalry game against a team in line for the title game is pretty much a guarantee to have them playing close to their potential.

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Could be worse. He could play for the Giants. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Big Ten fans and Boise State fans are cheering for Oklahoma this week. Big time.

11-25-2009, 09:59 AM	#18
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	dola This is the least interested I've been in any college football season since liking sports. Not sure if this is the RedZone channel totaling consuming my Sundays (making Saturday important to get stuff done), the Phillies late playoff run, or just the unfortunate boring nature by which this college football season played out. Last edited by RedKingGold : 11-25-2009 at 10:00 AM.

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I'm a little leery of the Longhorns game tomorrow. A&M has always played the Horns tough at home against their biggest rival. Even the mighty 2005 team struggled in the final game against A&M. The Aggies are 6-5. Their margin of victory in the 6 wins was 27 points. They lost the 5 games by an average of 30 points. I think Texas wins, but I wouldn't be surprised if the game is close. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Since Syracuse is apparently unstoppable when I'm present, I'm thinking about making the trip down to UConn on Saturday.

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Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Georgia Tech/Georgia!

11-25-2009, 11:27 AM	#23
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Despite the line opening as a pick 'em, it seems like a lot of WVU insiders think Pitt should win fairly easily. The consensus is that Pitt has more talent and depth almost everywhere. It's definitely true along both lines. Pitt has a great d-line, where WVU has talent but injuries have hurt. WVU's offensive line has been absolutely horrid, though. You never know in a rivalry game, though.

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dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	This week reminds me that I wonder whatever happened with WSUCougar?

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Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Ill be attending the Arizona State-Arizona game!! Thats a big deal down here, supposedly the oldest consecutive rivalry in the nation since like 1893 or something. And I wish I could attend Mizzou-Kansas, should be a great game! __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

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MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Wasn't sure where to post this, but I haven't been super into college football before... I'll watch parts of games, and watched the entire Vince Young bowl game a few years ago... but I read somewhere about Troy Polamalu's cousin (Maika Polamalu) being ready to enter college. Does anyone know where he can likely end up? Maybe following his career will get me into U.S. college football.

11-25-2009, 03:31 PM	#31
dawgfan Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Seattle	Maika Polamalu is a 2011 recruit, so he's just a Jr. in High School this year. He must be fairly well regarded as he's already designated a 4-star recruit by Scout.com, and he already has an offer from Penn State.

11-25-2009, 03:44 PM	#32
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	The Pitt rivals site just did an article on Polamalu yesterday. It looks like he actually might be the 2nd highest regarded 2011 recruit on his team - athletic QB Terrell Chestnut already has offers from Pitt, Rutgers and WVU. Penn State is Polamalu's only D1 offer so far, and his dad played there, so it seems like they will be the team to beat. He did mention that he has been lax about sending his highlight tape out to schools, though, and it's really early, so I'm guessing he'll get a bunch of offers in the spring and summer.

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Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	He just got some coverage on the local news here, as well. I think the smart money is on him landing at Penn State, but if he wants to play the recruiting game to its fullest, he will probably end up with offers from most of the Big East, Big 10, and ACC schools. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	haha he got destroyed __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	14-14 with about 5 mins left in the first half. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	That was a fun game to watch. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Giving up 532 yards to a mediocre offense like Texas A&M. Imagine what a good offense would do to it.

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