They're partying in Baghdad today!

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 06:36 AM

Conquerors, huh?

Edit: Adding more pics as they show up around the 'net.

Easy Mac · 04-09-2003, 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog

Conquerors, huh?

it kind of looks like rioting and looting. Looks a little like the LA riots.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
it kind of looks like rioting and looting. Looks a little like the LA riots.

Of course they're looting the government buildings. Wouldn't you?

Or, would you think it better that they had remained under Saddam's regime?

Bee · 04-09-2003, 06:51 AM

Interesting that the sign is in English

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by Bee
Interesting that the sign is in English

No different from all the anti-war protestors in non-English-speaking countries carryings signs written in English. The Iraqis, just like the protestors, probably just want the Americans to see what they have to say.

Easy Mac · 04-09-2003, 06:56 AM

I just love the picture where they wrote the "Bye Bye Sadam" in English. Hmmm, kind of like those middle-east war protestors with english signs

edit: damn you guys and your fast typing.

And for all we know, its a soldier holding a sign.

And yes SD, thats exactly what I said :rollseyes: Thanks for knowing exactly what everyone thinks about every situation involving the war. But I guess rioting and looting is the American way, so they learn fast.

Bee · 04-09-2003, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog
No different from all the anti-war protestors in non-English-speaking countries carryings signs written in English. The Iraqis, just like the protestors, probably just want the Americans to see what they have to say.

True, but I'm somewhat surprised that the general population in Iraq would be able to write in English.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
I just love the picture where they wrote the "Bye Bye Sadam" in English. Hmmm, kind of like those middle-east war protestors with english signs

And yes SD, thats exactly what I said :rollseyes: Thanks for knowing exactly what everyone thinks about every situation involving the war. But I guess rioting and looting is the American way, so they learn fast.

It is amazing to me that anyone would want to scoff at these oppressed people's unmitigated joy in any way.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Bee
True, but I'm somewhat surprised that the general population in Iraq would be able to write in English.

Good point. Of course, most English-speakers spell it with two "D's", which makes me wonder if this was written by a barely-educated-in-English Iraqi.

Easy Mac · 04-09-2003, 07:00 AM

And its amazing people can condone the violence and stealing of those same people (see also the picture of the Republican Guardsman being beaten). Doing things out of joy doesn't make it right. I'm happy today, maybe I should beat down people who I dont agree with.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
And its amazing people can condone the violence and stealing of those same people (see also the picture of the Republican Guardsman being beaten). Doing things out of joy doesn't make it right. I'm happy today, maybe I should beat down people who I dont agree with.

Exactly when did I say I condone it? I said I understand it. Everything I've read so far says that the looting has been of government buildings. I've yet to hear anything about violence/rioting. It is certainly understandable for a people who have been oppressed to take out their frustration on government buildings.

And if they beat a Republican Guardsman, that sounds to me like an oppressed people joining their liberators in the fight against their oppressors.

CamEdwards · 04-09-2003, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
And its amazing people can condone the violence and stealing of those same people (see also the picture of the Republican Guardsman being beaten). Doing things out of joy doesn't make it right. I'm happy today, maybe I should beat down people who I dont agree with.

I think it goes a little beyond "not agreeing with them" Easy.

You're right Skydog... it's a great day.

Bee · 04-09-2003, 07:08 AM

The reports I've seen indicates this is happening with the Shiites, does anyone know if the Sunnis are celebrating as well? I'm very curious what their reaction will be.

AgPete · 04-09-2003, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog
Of course they're looting the government buildings. Wouldn't you?

Or, would you think it better that they had remained under Saddam's regime?

I can't speak for the Iraqis but I know I've always wanted a solid gold toilet seat.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by Bee
The reports I've seen indicates this is happening with the Shiites, does anyone know if the Sunnis are celebrating as well? I'm very curious what their reaction will be.

Haven't heard. The big report was of a Shiite cleric. From CNN:

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But in the Baghdad suburb of Saddam City, residents were in the streets, celebrating the apparent end of the Iraqi regime. A Shiite Muslim leader told a group of 400 to 500 people, "The tyrant of the world is finished, thanks to the coalition. Thank God for Iraq the victorious."

Easy Mac · 04-09-2003, 07:38 AM

Personally, I'm happy for the people of Iraq, they deserve this, to be free. I just think the article link is the main reservation I have with the looting. You don't have to agree, just read, and understand my hesitence.

link

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
Personally, I'm happy for the people of Iraq, they deserve this, to be free. I just think the article link is the main reservation I have with the looting. You don't have to agree, just read, and understand my hesitence.

link

It makes some good points. However, CNN just reported a few minutes ago that our Marines in Baghdad are changing the battle plan to begin acting as police. Because of your general mistrust of the motives of our Commander-in-Chief and his military, I can see why you are hesitant. I, on the other hand, believe the Marines will do a fine job of policing things and restoring law and order.

Havok · 04-09-2003, 08:09 AM

man im loving this. All those Anti-war people have to feel like dumasses now.

"There's gonna be 100,000's civilan casulties!!!!!!"

"US will lose 10,000+ Troops!!!!!"

"Rumsfield's War Plan is all wrong!!!"

"Blah Blah Blah!!!!"

Our tanks just rolled into Baghdad's city center with very little resistance. Chalk another one up for our troops.

NoMyths · 04-09-2003, 08:15 AM

Unmitigated Iraqi Joy

P.S. It's not just government buildings getting looted...was hearing about a hotel getting ransacked for everything from faucets to doors earlier.

Fritz · 04-09-2003, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
And for all we know, its a soldier holding a sign.

Those are Arab arms and you know it. You can tell just by looking!

CamEdwards · 04-09-2003, 08:23 AM

no Fritz, it's all CIA propaganda.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:29 AM

Two guys have now climbed up on that HUGE statue of Saddam in the Government Square in Baghdad, and a bunch of people are below throwing shoes at the statue. I'd love to see our troops rig something up to help them take that sucker down.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:30 AM

Dola! They're wrapping a big rope around it right now! This is gonna be fun to watch.

scooper · 04-09-2003, 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog

What is that? A water cooler? I'd like to have one of those for the office.

CamEdwards · 04-09-2003, 08:30 AM

they're trying to tie ropes to the statue right now.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:37 AM

Amazing that those Iraqi citizens were able to come up with a rope that long and thick so quickly.

Havok · 04-09-2003, 08:38 AM

yep... that sucker is coming down one way or the other.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:41 AM

If Saddam is alive, I hope he's watching CNN right now.

scooper · 04-09-2003, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog
Amazing that those Iraqi citizens were able to come up with a rope that long and thick so quickly.

Maybe they borrowed it from one of Saddam's torture chambers. My guess is it came from a storage compartment on an M-1 Abrams.

Speaking of torture chambers, I was flipping around last night and happened upon a story on MSNBC where the reporter was going through a torture/prison facility in Iraq. He was being guided through by former prisoners there who were giving him the lowdown on what had been done to them. Nasty stuff.

Bee · 04-09-2003, 08:44 AM

I hope Americans realize they are celebrating their freedom from Saddam, not the US or our way of life.

CamEdwards · 04-09-2003, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by Bee
I hope Americans realize they are celebrating their freedom from Saddam, not the US or our way of life.

I think it's fair to say they're celebrating their freedom from Saddam, but I think it's also fair to say they recognize who's brought them their freedom. That's why we're hearing chants of "Bush, Bush, Bush" and "We Love America" as well.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:46 AM

Where is Peter Gabriel when we need him???

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:48 AM

That guy in the black tank top needs to be the new Chief of Police.

Bee · 04-09-2003, 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by CamEdwards
I think it's fair to say they're celebrating their freedom from Saddam, but I think it's also fair to say they recognize who's brought them their freedom. That's why we're hearing chants of "Bush, Bush, Bush" and "We Love America" as well.

The reports coming into CBS also include a lot of comments like "I don't like Saddam, but I hate seeing a foreign invader in the middle of Baghdad". These people have been fed a steady diet of anti-Americanism for decades. It's not going to be overcome easily.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by scooper
My guess is it came from a storage compartment on an M-1 Abrams.

Yup, I'm thinking that sledgehammer might have been slipped to 'em as well.

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 09:07 AM

American tank approaching the statue now.

Bee · 04-09-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog
American tank approaching the statue now.

That might be a little overkill, but I like it.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-09-2003, 09:28 AM

Gunfire reported around the area

{edit to add} -- apparently nothing serious

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 09:35 AM

OH BABY!!!! They just draped Old Glory over his face!!!!

Bee · 04-09-2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by SkyDog
OH BABY!!!! They just draped Old Glory over his face!!!!

I hope they remove it before they use the tank...

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Bee
I hope they remove it before they use the tank...

They did. That was VERY funny though!

scooper · 04-09-2003, 09:38 AM

Thanks for the play by play. Keep it up. Man, I wish I was at home right now.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-09-2003, 09:38 AM

Flag = bad p.r. move globally
Flag = popular move with crowd (judging from cheers)
Flag = they earned the right to do it, p.r. be damned

Now if somebody could find an Iraqi flag to duplicate the scene with, we'd have the best of both worlds

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by JonInMiddleGA
Now if somebody could find an Iraqi flag to duplicate the scene with, we'd have the best of both worlds

Looks like they're about to do that. A US Marine has the Iraqi flag about to put it up now.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-09-2003, 09:41 AM

I love it, I oughta go into marketing or something ... hey, wait a minute

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 09:45 AM

Dang it would suck if the tank isn't strong enough...

JonInMiddleGA · 04-09-2003, 09:47 AM

Dang Dog, you read my mind

Ben E Lou · 04-09-2003, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by JonInMiddleGA
Dang Dog, you read my mind

LOOKS LIKE WE HAD NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT THOUGH!

Craptacular · 04-09-2003, 09:50 AM

MSNBC Live Video

Craptacular · 04-09-2003, 09:50 AM

There it goes!!!!1

04-09-2003, 06:56 AM	#6
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I just love the picture where they wrote the "Bye Bye Sadam" in English. Hmmm, kind of like those middle-east war protestors with english signs edit: damn you guys and your fast typing. And for all we know, its a soldier holding a sign. And yes SD, thats exactly what I said :rollseyes: Thanks for knowing exactly what everyone thinks about every situation involving the war. But I guess rioting and looting is the American way, so they learn fast. Last edited by Easy Mac : 04-09-2003 at 06:57 AM.

04-09-2003, 08:09 AM	#18
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	man im loving this. All those Anti-war people have to feel like dumasses now. "There's gonna be 100,000's civilan casulties!!!!!!" "US will lose 10,000+ Troops!!!!!" "Rumsfield's War Plan is all wrong!!!" "Blah Blah Blah!!!!" Our tanks just rolled into Baghdad's city center with very little resistance. Chalk another one up for our troops. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

04-09-2003, 08:23 AM	#21
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	no Fritz, it's all CIA propaganda. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

04-09-2003, 08:29 AM	#22
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Two guys have now climbed up on that HUGE statue of Saddam in the Government Square in Baghdad, and a bunch of people are below throwing shoes at the statue. I'd love to see our troops rig something up to help them take that sucker down. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 08:30 AM	#23
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Dola! They're wrapping a big rope around it right now! This is gonna be fun to watch. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 06:51 AM	#4
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Interesting that the sign is in English

04-09-2003, 07:00 AM	#10
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	And its amazing people can condone the violence and stealing of those same people (see also the picture of the Republican Guardsman being beaten). Doing things out of joy doesn't make it right. I'm happy today, maybe I should beat down people who I dont agree with.

04-09-2003, 07:08 AM	#13
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	The reports I've seen indicates this is happening with the Shiites, does anyone know if the Sunnis are celebrating as well? I'm very curious what their reaction will be.

04-09-2003, 07:38 AM	#16
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Personally, I'm happy for the people of Iraq, they deserve this, to be free. I just think the article link is the main reservation I have with the looting. You don't have to agree, just read, and understand my hesitence. link

04-09-2003, 08:15 AM	#19
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Unmitigated Iraqi Joy P.S. It's not just government buildings getting looted...was hearing about a hotel getting ransacked for everything from faucets to doors earlier.

04-09-2003, 08:37 AM	#26
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Amazing that those Iraqi citizens were able to come up with a rope that long and thick so quickly. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 08:38 AM	#27
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	yep... that sucker is coming down one way or the other. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

04-09-2003, 08:41 AM	#28
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	If Saddam is alive, I hope he's watching CNN right now. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 08:44 AM	#30
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I hope Americans realize they are celebrating their freedom from Saddam, not the US or our way of life.

04-09-2003, 08:46 AM	#32
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Where is Peter Gabriel when we need him??? __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 08:48 AM	#33
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	That guy in the black tank top needs to be the new Chief of Police. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 09:07 AM	#36
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	American tank approaching the statue now. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 09:28 AM	#38
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Gunfire reported around the area {edit to add} -- apparently nothing serious __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 04-09-2003 at 09:30 AM.

04-09-2003, 09:35 AM	#39
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	OH BABY!!!! They just draped Old Glory over his face!!!! __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 09:38 AM	#42
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Thanks for the play by play. Keep it up. Man, I wish I was at home right now.

04-09-2003, 09:41 AM	#45
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I love it, I oughta go into marketing or something ... hey, wait a minute __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-09-2003, 09:45 AM	#46
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Dang it would suck if the tank isn't strong enough... __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

04-09-2003, 09:47 AM	#47
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Dang Dog, you read my mind __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-09-2003, 09:50 AM	#49
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	MSNBC Live Video

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