Im in trouble I think, health wise

Flasch186 · 10-18-2009, 09:08 PM

So about 10 days or so ago, I started getting GI sick.

Black tarry stool. Diarrhea.

The feeling of a brick being in my stomach area.

Today my urine is 'tea' colored.

Im on Ciproflaxacn and Metronidazol.

It tastes like there is a penny in my mouth.

The results of a stool test come in tomorrow I think but Im definitely not getting better and Im more worried than Im letting on here around the house.

Busy day at work tomorrow but much gurgling and discomfort in my mid to left belly, somewhat belchy. (not right or else I think that might be more apendix like)

As an added note, my friend Keith got sick, like this, but much milder but the duration is the same and now my 8 month pregnant wife is kind of talking about discomfort on that left side too.

Any doctors in the house?

thesloppy · 10-18-2009, 09:21 PM

Hmmm, all symptoms point to you eating pennies.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-18-2009, 09:28 PM

Some generic thoughts, not relating to your care:

Lots of things can cause "tea colored" urine including the medication metronidazole. Other things such as dehydration or blood in the urine can also cause this.

Certain medications can leave a coppery taste in the mouth including Metronidazole.

Quite a few things can lead to black tarry stools. If a person took anything for the diarrhea such as Pepto Bismol, that can cause it. Of course, blood in the upper GI tract can also cause it.

With the many possibilities that exist, if it was me, I'd certainly follow up with my doctor ASAP, but I would do my best not to panic as it could be all relatively benign.

DaddyTorgo · 10-18-2009, 09:29 PM

webMD was no help?

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 09:29 PM

Maybe you're pregnant?

Flasch186 · 10-18-2009, 09:30 PM

man WebMD and the sites I found in general were confusing. one would say one thing and then the exact opposite for the other med im taking and symptoms. I trust EF27 more than those anyways

MJ4H · 10-18-2009, 09:32 PM

wait till you get the bill

Karlifornia · 10-18-2009, 09:35 PM

Black stool could also be an ulcer, no?

Flasch186 · 10-18-2009, 09:43 PM

This all started off of a bad lunch I think about 11 days ago. Keith was at that lunch and so was ash and while they have similar symptoms theyre nothing like mine...nothing. Could an ulcer be why Im so much worse off than them?

JonInMiddleGA · 10-18-2009, 09:48 PM

That penny taste sure rang the "bleeding ulcer" bell for me.

BTDT, not fun.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-18-2009, 09:49 PM

Maybe it's a tumor.

Suburban Rhythm · 10-18-2009, 10:00 PM

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Eaglesfan27 · 10-18-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Maybe it's a tumor.

[Arnold voice] It's not a tumor [/Arnold voice.]

Seriously, try not to stress Flasch as that won't help anything, but do follow up with your doctor.

cuervo72 · 10-18-2009, 10:22 PM

Ezekial says be a man - he's been peeing sweet tea for 97 years!

Warhammer · 10-19-2009, 08:39 AM

If you've been peeing sweet tea, wouldnt it be sweet pee?

JPhillips · 10-19-2009, 08:51 AM

Sounds to me like an excess of black bile. A melancholic humour requires balancing with hot, moist food and drink. It wouldn't be a bad idea to be bled either.

King of New York · 10-19-2009, 08:52 AM

Have you tried any probiotics? Those things are great. Maybe you should get some Kefir to drink. When my gastro-intestinal system goes all funky on me, I bomb myself with probiotics, and it works wonders.

You should certainly see a doctor, though, 'cause probiotics won't help with an ulcer.

Autumn · 10-19-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Sounds to me like an excess of black bile. A melancholic humour requires balancing with hot, moist food and drink. It wouldn't be a bad idea to be bled either.

I'll get the leeches. It's a good thing you came to us.

On a serious note, it sounds like something contagious, so while that's not pleasant it at least is less worrisome.

Chief Rum · 10-19-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

On a serious note, it sounds like something contagious, so while that's not pleasant it at least is less worrisome.

Why would the fact it can be spread be something to worry less about?

jeff061 · 10-19-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Why would the fact it can be spread be something to worry less about?

Not a whole lot of contagious illnesses that can't be cured with rest.

Edward64 · 10-19-2009, 11:57 AM

Damn. You guys are brutal.

Flasch, hope the diagnosis is not serious.

stevew · 10-19-2009, 12:13 PM

I don't think food poisoning would manifest itself that far down the road, correct?

RainMaker · 10-19-2009, 12:22 PM

If you've been taking Pepto Bismol it'll make your poops black and tarry.

Otherwise, if it keeps up, I'd keep following up with a doctor. As others have said, black is usually a sign of some blood in there. Could be something as simple as some GI irritation from whatever you have, but it could also be something serious (although unlikely).

Bisbo · 10-19-2009, 12:45 PM

Have you had an erection for more than 4 hours?

flere-imsaho · 10-19-2009, 12:53 PM

The good news is that the stool test should tell you something, so I'd wait for that before doing anything rash (no pun intended).

However, please tell me your pregnant wife has gone to see her doctor immediately....

Glengoyne · 10-19-2009, 02:31 PM

I just watched a House Marathon..

You're being poisoned.

Pyser · 10-19-2009, 02:59 PM

jews have bad stomachs. runs in my family too. good luck.

Flasch186 · 10-19-2009, 03:49 PM

update:

So I called the doc's office and got the receptionist and asked for the results. She said that they havnt come back yet and I told her about the additional symptoms. She said she would tell the doc and they would call me back.

4:45pm

No call back.

So no call from my calls yesterday to find out if I should go to the ER (they were paged) and no call today from me calling in.

I think Im going to be switching doctors.

RendeR · 10-19-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

update:

So I called the doc's office and got the receptionist and asked for the results. She said that they havnt come back yet and I told her about the additional symptoms. She said she would tell the doc and they would call me back.

4:45pm

No call back.

So no call from my calls yesterday to find out if I should go to the ER (they were paged) and no call today from me calling in.

I think Im going to be switching doctors.

Just relax. If there was something to report the lab would have done so already. If the doctor thought your symptoms showed something urgent he would have called you already.

Spend a day with just clear liquids, avoid caffeine and let your system clear itself out like that. wait for your doctor to let you know what the tests said, call them again tomorrow if they haven't replied today.

Patience and rest will do far more for you than getting agitated and upset because you haven't heard anything right off the bat.

DanGarion · 10-19-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

Black tarry stool. Diarrhea.

No pix pls kthnx.

Danny · 10-19-2009, 04:34 PM

What's so bad about a Black tarry stool? Do you have brown decor or something?

gstelmack · 10-19-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Just relax. If there was something to report the lab would have done so already. If the doctor thought your symptoms showed something urgent he would have called you already.

So what? There is nothing more frustrating than a doctor that won't tell you what's going on, and worse won't return a promised callback. I've ditched a doctor before myself (because I wasn't getting full explanations, and he was more interested in prescribing me a pill than really checking to see what might be going on) and am MUCH happier with the new doc.

Flasch186 · 10-19-2009, 06:03 PM

I must admit a short warning that, "if your pee turns color {react like this} wouldve helped out greatly."

Still nothing.

RendeR · 10-19-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

So what? There is nothing more frustrating than a doctor that won't tell you what's going on, and worse won't return a promised callback. I've ditched a doctor before myself (because I wasn't getting full explanations, and he was more interested in prescribing me a pill than really checking to see what might be going on) and am MUCH happier with the new doc.

He's free to do so if he really wants to, I was simply trying to reassure him that A) its probably not as bad as he's stressing and B) stressing is worse for any condition than taking a breath and relaxing a bit.

Dodgerchick · 10-19-2009, 07:20 PM

Good luck Flasch, hope it's nothing too serious.

Glengoyne · 10-20-2009, 07:42 PM

So Flasch.

Are you still counted as amongst the living?

Some of us are starting to get worried.

Flasch186 · 10-20-2009, 07:53 PM

Im alive.

No call from the Doctor yet.

My guts dont hurt so bad but my bladder does, especially after urination.

The urine is normal colored now.

Im probably at about 60% of normal...

thanks for checkin in on me. Im quite disappointed that there was no call today from the doc. I wonder why its moved to my bladder?

BishopMVP · 10-20-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

So what? There is nothing more frustrating than a doctor that won't tell you what's going on, and worse won't return a promised callback. I've ditched a doctor before myself (because I wasn't getting full explanations, and he was more interested in prescribing me a pill than really checking to see what might be going on) and am MUCH happier with the new doc.

To piggyback on both sides of this, I remember seeing studies where doctors with poor communication/bedside manner didn't make any more mistakes, but ended up with 10-12x as many medical malpractice suits. So it probably isn't anything serious, but if this is raising concerns about the doctor definitely switch - worrying too much risks agitating (or even causing) numerous ailments, so find one you're comfortable with.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-20-2009, 08:19 PM

Good to see you among the living.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-20-2009, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGarion

No pix pls kthnx.

Why not?

Flasch186 · 10-20-2009, 08:54 PM

what is that a poo filter?

clemsonfan · 10-21-2009, 05:49 AM

Are you still having diarrhea? My initial thought was that you might have C. Difficile (more commonly known as C. Diff). You get it sometimes from antibiotics because they can kill everything including your friendly bacteria that keeps things in check so C. Diff can take over. If you do have C. Diff, they will need to put you on another antibiotic (usually Flagyl).

Flasch186 · 10-21-2009, 06:06 AM

I have been drinking a probiotic / day, no diarreah anymore but i woke up this morning with a gnawing pain in what felt like my bladder.

clemsonfan · 10-21-2009, 06:08 AM

What other symptoms are you having?

Flasch186 · 10-21-2009, 06:49 AM

right now? full discomfort feeling in descending colon area, pain in bladder area (1-10) of about a 2.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-21-2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

To piggyback on both sides of this, I remember seeing studies where doctors with poor communication/bedside manner didn't make any more mistakes, but ended up with 10-12x as many medical malpractice suits. So it probably isn't anything serious, but if this is raising concerns about the doctor definitely switch - worrying too much risks agitating (or even causing) numerous ailments, so find one you're comfortable with.

I read that study as well, and have always put aside 30-60 minutes at the end of each work day to return calls.

Flasch, I would call them again. They should have at least returned your call by now even if it was to say they don't have the test results yet.

clemsonfan · 10-21-2009, 08:24 AM

Yeah, you definitely need to call them again. I am really interested in what your intake and output has been for the past couple of days, but I doubt you have been measuring how much you have been drinking and urinating.

Lathum · 10-21-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clemsonfan

Are you still having diarrhea? My initial thought was that you might have C. Difficile (more commonly known as C. Diff). You get it sometimes from antibiotics because they can kill everything including your friendly bacteria that keeps things in check so C. Diff can take over. If you do have C. Diff, they will need to put you on another antibiotic (usually Flagyl).

correct me if I am wrong, but is this the same problem women have when they get yeast infections and doesn't eating yogurt help?

clemsonfan · 10-21-2009, 10:05 AM

Yeast infections can also be caused by antibiotics, but C. diff and yeast infections are very different. C. diff causes very smelly diarrhea (once you have smelled it, it haunts you) and yeast infections cause lots of itching and drainage.

Flasch186 · 10-21-2009, 10:25 AM

called and they said they just got the results and will call me back. I prompted as to when and they said, "they have patients all day" and I asked if they could please call me today. She inferred that she would try to get a response today. Earlier in the convo she said it'd be either this afternoon or tomorrow morning and I mentioned the initial 3 day estimate and how it has now been 8. I didnt mention the nonreturned calls from Sunday when I thought I was dying.

10-18-2009, 09:28 PM	#3
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Some generic thoughts, not relating to your care: Lots of things can cause "tea colored" urine including the medication metronidazole. Other things such as dehydration or blood in the urine can also cause this. Certain medications can leave a coppery taste in the mouth including Metronidazole. Quite a few things can lead to black tarry stools. If a person took anything for the diarrhea such as Pepto Bismol, that can cause it. Of course, blood in the upper GI tract can also cause it. With the many possibilities that exist, if it was me, I'd certainly follow up with my doctor ASAP, but I would do my best not to panic as it could be all relatively benign. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 10-18-2009 at 09:29 PM.

10-18-2009, 09:29 PM	#4
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10-18-2009, 09:30 PM	#6
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	man WebMD and the sites I found in general were confusing. one would say one thing and then the exact opposite for the other med im taking and symptoms. I trust EF27 more than those anyways __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

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10-18-2009, 09:35 PM	#8
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10-18-2009, 09:21 PM	#2
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Hmmm, all symptoms point to you eating pennies.

10-18-2009, 09:29 PM	#5
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Maybe you're pregnant?

10-18-2009, 09:43 PM	#9
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	This all started off of a bad lunch I think about 11 days ago. Keith was at that lunch and so was ash and while they have similar symptoms theyre nothing like mine...nothing. Could an ulcer be why Im so much worse off than them? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-18-2009, 09:48 PM	#10
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	That penny taste sure rang the "bleeding ulcer" bell for me. BTDT, not fun. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-18-2009, 09:49 PM	#11
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10-18-2009, 10:22 PM	#14
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Ezekial says be a man - he's been peeing sweet tea for 97 years! __________________ null

10-19-2009, 08:39 AM	#15
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	If you've been peeing sweet tea, wouldnt it be sweet pee?

10-19-2009, 08:51 AM	#16
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Sounds to me like an excess of black bile. A melancholic humour requires balancing with hot, moist food and drink. It wouldn't be a bad idea to be bled either. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-19-2009, 08:52 AM	#17
King of New York High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edge of the Great Dismal Swamp	Have you tried any probiotics? Those things are great. Maybe you should get some Kefir to drink. When my gastro-intestinal system goes all funky on me, I bomb myself with probiotics, and it works wonders. You should certainly see a doctor, though, 'cause probiotics won't help with an ulcer. __________________ Input A No Input

10-19-2009, 11:57 AM	#21
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Damn. You guys are brutal. Flasch, hope the diagnosis is not serious.

10-19-2009, 12:13 PM	#22
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I don't think food poisoning would manifest itself that far down the road, correct?

10-19-2009, 12:22 PM	#23
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	If you've been taking Pepto Bismol it'll make your poops black and tarry. Otherwise, if it keeps up, I'd keep following up with a doctor. As others have said, black is usually a sign of some blood in there. Could be something as simple as some GI irritation from whatever you have, but it could also be something serious (although unlikely).

10-19-2009, 12:45 PM	#24
Bisbo H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Mar 2006	Have you had an erection for more than 4 hours?

10-19-2009, 12:53 PM	#25
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	The good news is that the stool test should tell you something, so I'd wait for that before doing anything rash (no pun intended). However, please tell me your pregnant wife has gone to see her doctor immediately....

10-19-2009, 02:31 PM	#26
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I just watched a House Marathon.. You're being poisoned.

10-19-2009, 02:59 PM	#27
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	jews have bad stomachs. runs in my family too. good luck.

10-19-2009, 03:49 PM	#28
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	update: So I called the doc's office and got the receptionist and asked for the results. She said that they havnt come back yet and I told her about the additional symptoms. She said she would tell the doc and they would call me back. 4:45pm No call back. So no call from my calls yesterday to find out if I should go to the ER (they were paged) and no call today from me calling in. I think Im going to be switching doctors. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-19-2009, 04:34 PM	#31
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	What's so bad about a Black tarry stool? Do you have brown decor or something?

10-19-2009, 06:03 PM	#33
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	I must admit a short warning that, "if your pee turns color {react like this} wouldve helped out greatly." Still nothing. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-19-2009, 07:20 PM	#35
Dodgerchick College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX	Good luck Flasch, hope it's nothing too serious. __________________ DON'T ITCH THAT NOSE! A Meditation Dynasty

10-20-2009, 07:42 PM	#36
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	So Flasch. Are you still counted as amongst the living? Some of us are starting to get worried.

10-20-2009, 07:53 PM	#37
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Im alive. No call from the Doctor yet. My guts dont hurt so bad but my bladder does, especially after urination. The urine is normal colored now. Im probably at about 60% of normal... thanks for checkin in on me. Im quite disappointed that there was no call today from the doc. I wonder why its moved to my bladder? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-20-2009, 08:19 PM	#39
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Good to see you among the living.

10-20-2009, 08:54 PM	#41
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	what is that a poo filter? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-21-2009, 05:49 AM	#42
clemsonfan High School JV Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dayton, OH	Are you still having diarrhea? My initial thought was that you might have C. Difficile (more commonly known as C. Diff). You get it sometimes from antibiotics because they can kill everything including your friendly bacteria that keeps things in check so C. Diff can take over. If you do have C. Diff, they will need to put you on another antibiotic (usually Flagyl).

10-21-2009, 06:06 AM	#43
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	I have been drinking a probiotic / day, no diarreah anymore but i woke up this morning with a gnawing pain in what felt like my bladder. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-21-2009, 06:08 AM	#44
clemsonfan High School JV Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dayton, OH	What other symptoms are you having?

10-21-2009, 06:49 AM	#45
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	right now? full discomfort feeling in descending colon area, pain in bladder area (1-10) of about a 2. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-21-2009, 08:24 AM	#47
clemsonfan High School JV Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dayton, OH	Yeah, you definitely need to call them again. I am really interested in what your intake and output has been for the past couple of days, but I doubt you have been measuring how much you have been drinking and urinating.