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Old 09-09-2009, 12:32 AM   #1
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NFL WEEK 1

It's really hard to believe that an actual meaningful game kicks off in about 40 hours or so.

Should be a good game, hopefully Steelers looking good in regular season.


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Old 09-09-2009, 12:59 AM   #2
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You're going to go to all the trouble of adding the extra four words to pimp the Steelers, and you can't even add an extra three letters for maximum pompous grandiosity?

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Old 09-09-2009, 01:29 AM   #3
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I'm hoping I can avoid spoilers and watch the replay Friday night my time.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:45 AM   #4
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This should be a good game. Timmons is hurt and probably won't play.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:36 AM   #5
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:57 AM   #6
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:46 AM   #7
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:38 PM   #8
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Nice article on James Harrison.

They came at linebacker James Harrison in waves, and he flicked them aside as one might expect the NFL defensive player of the year to do. • One after the other, Harrison rejected them as if they were scatbacks trying to block his path to the quarterback. Only these did not occur on a football field, they were part of his swag for what he did on football fields last season. • They were offers of money in trade for his appearance or his autograph or his endorsement. It is the reward for the remarkable season Harrison had in 2008. • Yet, the two-time Steelers MVP was a hard sell, turning down "about 25, 30" such offers, according to agent Bill Parise. His reasoning: "James is James," Parise said. "James is not comfortable in a lot of those settings, and there's not a need to put him in them anymore."

The lack of need to grovel for outside income came in April when he signed a six-year contract worth $51.2 million, about $20 million of that in bonus money.

"I turned down a whole bunch of stuff," Harrison said. "Go here, do this and do that. I don't want to do nothing. I'm not interested, especially now, I don't really need it.

"I'm happy with the contract I have. And the kind of money I would get from that versus what I'd have to do, I'd probably have to sit there and talk to people."

Oh, no, not talk to people! Think skipping the White House visit and a chance to meet the president was a show of disrespect? Those who know Harrison claim it's just not so. He's private and admittedly shy. This overnight sensation at age 31 often does not react well to his newfound celebrity.
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Two years ago, he was just another backup outside linebacker with the Steelers. Today, he owns their season sack record with 16, was league defensive player of the year and author of the longest play in Super Bowl history, a breathtaking 100-yard interception return for a touchdown to end the first half and very likely stem Arizona's upset bid.

There's also an impending book. Yes, this shy, private linebacker collaborated on a biography, perhaps because he had to talk only to its author, Bill Moushey (with Bill Parise). Titled "Never Give Up," a snarling Harrison is shown on its cover. It was Moushey, a former Post-Gazette writer, who suggested Harrison's shyness.

"I think he puts a somewhat impenetrable shield up to keep people away from him, borne out of an intense shyness," Moushey said. "He won't go in front of crowds, doesn't like to do that kind of stuff, unless it's involving kids. His fear of flying combined with his shyness has caused him pretty much to turn down anything people throw his way. He's been offered all kinds of headline appearances and he just doesn't do it."

Harrison, who is so intense he nearly knocked his quarterback out for the season by pushing 345-pound tackle Max Starks into Ben Roethlisberger's leg on the last day of training camp, also has a soft side. Of the field, of course.

"Absolutely," says end Brett Keisel, who plays next to Harrison on the right side of the NFL's No. 1 defense. "Watch him around his little boy and my son. My son was out here a couple of weeks ago; James came over and kissed him on the head.

"He's a great guy off the field, but on the field he's a complete animal. That's what we want. He's a big reason why we were great last year. His return in the Super Bowl speaks for itself. He has the heart to go that far -- that's a long way to run, but that's what he's built on, all heart."

Speaking from the heart, then, here are Harrison's thoughts, recounted for us, as he intercepted Kurt Warner's pass and ran with it. He already has acknowledged he was supposed to blitz on that play but saw something and hung back.

"After I picked it off, I didn't see anybody in front of me, I thought I had a clean touchdown. I'm like, 'I'm about to go.' All of a sudden there's a sea of white jerseys and then I saw a bunch of red jerseys and I said, 'Oh my goodness.' "

He needed some help and got it with blocks by quick-reacting teammates Deshea Townsend, Ike Taylor and LaMarr Woodley, among others.

"After Deshea blocked Kurt Warner I said, 'OK, I'm good.' He blocks him, then I got a bump from behind, I guess that was Ike hitting someone, I don't know who it was. Then somebody came from the side, a lineman or something. Then there was a running back [Woodley] knocked down, then another lineman after [Woodley] knocked him down, then a receiver. Like I said, I never saw Larry Fitzgerald until he actually hit me."

That occurred as he approached the end zone and wound up rolling onto Fitzgerald for the touchdown. Had he been short, the half would have ended without a chance at kicking a field goal. As with Franco Harris' Immaculate Reception, he might have had time to run out of bounds and given his team a shot at three points rather than gamble it all on the end zone or nothing.

"I'm not even thinking about running out of bounds," Harrison said. "I figured there was not enough time left, that was my whole reason for dropping back because they had to either throw a quick in or out into the end zone because they could not afford to get caught in bounds; they had no timeouts left."

Had it not been for Fitzgerald's late scores and Santonio Holmes' winning touchdown catch, Harrison might have added Super Bowl MVP to his late-blooming resume. No matter. He's happy with what he has, but in no way content. He's as determined to show he's not a fluke as much as he was determined to make it in the first place.

"He's more motivated to prove his critics wrong, that he might be a one-year wonder," said friend and safety Tyrone Carter. "He's always been motivated, but this will give him an extra edge as well because you know he's going to have naysayers: 'He had one good year, what's he going to do once he got money?' "

Harrison, who was back working out at the Steelers' facility days after they won Super Bowl XLIII, will tell you what he's going to do, or at least plans to do.

"I believe anything can be topped. That's why they make records. How do I do that? I come in and train and get better in every area, learning defense, what my position is as far as where I'm supposed to be on certain defenses to better help myself and my teammates. It may not be me getting better numbers, it may be me being in better position to help other people."

Just as long as those people are his teammates, or the kids he serves through the Beaver County YMCA without fanfare. The rest? Please leave him alone, even if you come carrying gifts. Harrison does not want gifts and he certainly does not want to have to talk to anyone to get them.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:42 PM   #9
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:03 PM   #10
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The Titans have beaten the Steelers 4 of the last five times and I expect them to be ready to play. I hate to give predictions but the Titans have a vastly improved passing game as long as the players are healthy enough to play Titans 27-23
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:24 PM   #11
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The Titans have beaten the Steelers 4 of the last five times and I expect them to be ready to play. I hate to give predictions but the Titans have a vastly improved passing game as long as the players are healthy enough to play Titans 27-23

Vastly improved? Am I missing something in their passing game?
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:33 PM   #12
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Fun thing is, my boss is a huge Steelers fan. We got to show him that today, and got him all riled up. Fun times.

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Old 09-09-2009, 10:36 PM   #13
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Fun thing is, my boss is a huge Steelers fan. We got to show him that today, and got him all riled up. Fun times.

Just because you didn't like Kordell on the Bears, don't go hating on an awesome team.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:41 PM   #14
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Just because you didn't like Kordell on the Bears, don't go hating on an awesome team.

Dude, we had Rick Mirer and Cade McNown. You think Kordell gets me?
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:49 PM   #15
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Dude, we had Rick Mirer and Cade McNown. You think Kordell gets me?

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Old 09-09-2009, 11:29 PM   #16
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #17
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Fun thing is, my boss is a huge Steelers fan. We got to show him that today, and got him all riled up. Fun times.

Dude, i hate most steeler fans too. I never realized how bad the invalids were until I moved back here. There's a difference between being a homer and being an insane uneducated moron for your team. Steeler flags on your car, steeler shirts in church. Kids dressed up in jersey's year round. I mean, cmon, that's just stupid.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:10 AM   #18
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Dude, i hate most steeler fans too. I never realized how bad the invalids were until I moved back here. There's a difference between being a homer and being an insane uneducated moron for your team. Steeler flags on your car, steeler shirts in church. Kids dressed up in jersey's year round. I mean, cmon, that's just stupid.

Eh, to be honest, I think every team has its collection of moron fans.

I just couldn't resist posting that article when I saw this thread.

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Old 09-10-2009, 09:11 AM   #19
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Vastly improved? Am I missing something in their passing game?

They have the same offensive lineman and QBs which is not a bad thing. TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here. The RBs are improved as well with a leaner White, more experienced Johnson and the addition of Michigan St. stand out Javon Ringer to spell them here they are improved. Now at Wr they have replaced Justin McCariens with ex-Steeler wdeout Washington and have replaced Brandon Jones with Kenny Brit. Justin Gage had a great preseason and is healthy. Also, there is a few other WRs that were added in the draft late that appear to be able to contribute. So, I "vastly"{ improved maybe a strecth but they certainly are not hampered like in the past by a poor passing game any more.
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:19 AM   #21
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They have the same offensive lineman and QBs which is not a bad thing. TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here. The RBs are improved as well with a leaner White, more experienced Johnson and the addition of Michigan St. stand out Javon Ringer to spell them here they are improved. Now at Wr they have replaced Justin McCariens with ex-Steeler wdeout Washington and have replaced Brandon Jones with Kenny Brit. Justin Gage had a great preseason and is healthy. Also, there is a few other WRs that were added in the draft late that appear to be able to contribute. So, I "vastly"{ improved maybe a strecth but they certainly are not hampered like in the past by a poor passing game any more.

Alright, I can buy the "improved" logic. I just thought I was missing something when I read "vastly improved." (I have Chris Johnson and LenDale White in leagues, so I'm banking on them running a lot).
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:20 AM   #22
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Apparently in Pittsburgh it is okay to wear a Steeler jersey to work when you have to give a big presentation to a customer.
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Apparently in Pittsburgh it is okay to wear a Steeler jersey to work when you have to give a big presentation to a customer.

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Old 09-10-2009, 11:06 AM   #24
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Pretty much complete truth here.

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Old 09-10-2009, 11:42 AM   #25
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[[quote=Galaril;2113504]TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here.[/ QUOTE]

He's the 4th TE, likely to be inactive, and who (other than Tenn fans/media) said he was better than Pettigrew?

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The RBs are improved as well .

One could perhaps make a reasonable argument that their RB's are, I don't know, the same guys? Since, you know, they're the same guys.

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Javon Ringer .

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Now at Wr they have replaced Justin McCariens with ex-Steeler wdeout Washington and have replaced Brandon Jones with Kenny Brit. Justin Gage had a great preseason and is healthy..

Their solution at WR was to bring in a #3 caliber guy to be #1. He's been injured, so give them a pass on that not working out.

Kenny Britt has proven what? I think he will be better than Brandon Jones, but he has yet to prove even that.

The bottom line is Justin Gage is the #1 WR. This is never good.

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Also, there is a few other WRs that were added in the draft late that appear to be able to contribute. .

Only Dominique Edison made the roster. This is going to help give them a better passing game?

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they certainly are not hampered like in the past by a poor passing game any more.

Sorry, none of the things you mention appear to likely to make a difference. The possible exception is Britt. He could really be something special - but even WRs who end up being that rarely make a difference as rookies.

Bottom line: A rational examination suggests the Titans will still be hampered by a poor passing game.
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Last year I was in LA for the Rose Bowl and i went to a bar on Rodondo Beach...wouldn't you know it was a fuckin steelers bar. I flew 3000 miles to get away and I still end up with Steelers shit around me.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:57 AM   #28
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Dola...and my favorite line...

2. Most annoying fans at the bar? Most annoying fans at the bar. You'd think Eagles fans would have this title all sewn up. You'd be incorrect. Stop by any bar on a Sunday afternoon this fall and you will be treated to a large number of Steelers shouting out pointless shit like, "FUCKING BIG BEN!" or "HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!" or "THAT'S MY BOY, JAMES HARRISON!" It says something about a franchise when Terry Bradshaw is its most insightful representative.
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Dola...and my favorite line...

2. Most annoying fans at the bar? Most annoying fans at the bar. You'd think Eagles fans would have this title all sewn up. You'd be incorrect. Stop by any bar on a Sunday afternoon this fall and you will be treated to a large number of Steelers shouting out pointless shit like, "FUCKING BIG BEN!" or "HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!" or "THAT'S MY BOY, JAMES HARRISON!" It says something about a franchise when Terry Bradshaw is its most insightful representative.

I don't care if people make fun of the Steelers really, I just don't get how this is funny? I run across the same thing for fans of every team in every sport (I mean, I haven't seen fans of every team in every sport, but if I'm somewhere with a bunch of Colts and Pats fans, there will be random dudes shouting out crap like the above).
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It's funny cause it is true, yet you'll be hard pressed to find a fan besides SteveW and even SR would agree, that will admit to it.. Pittsburgh fans are quick to point out that they are classy fans and don't act like Eagles fan who are obnoxious. Meanwhile they are the only ones who see that.

And it has rubbed off on their other team the Pens. Pens fans use to be great to talk to, now since they are good again you can see the ones who have come on board who act like Steeler fans. I imagine that will happen with the Pirates too, but again since they suck, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who admits they are a Pirate fan...that shit aint cool by them.

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Old 09-10-2009, 12:34 PM   #31
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It's funny cause it is true, yet you'll be hard pressed to find a fan besides SteveW and even SR would agree, that will admit to it.. Pittsburgh fans are quick to point out that they are classy fans and don't act like Eagles fan who are obnoxious. Meanwhile they are the only ones who see that.

And it has rubbed off on their other team the Pens. Pens fans use to be great to talk to, now since they are good again you can see the ones who have come on board who act like Steeler fans. I imagine that will happen with the Pirates too, but again since they suck, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who admits they are a Pirate fan...that shit aint cool by them.

Alright. Well, I don't live around the heart of Steelers fans so I can't argue anything. I just made an observation that a lot of fans for other teams and sports do the same thing (and if I'm out with friends watching I'll yell out stupid comments like that too, but they do the same for their teams).
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Dude, i hate most steeler fans too. I never realized how bad the invalids were until I moved back here. There's a difference between being a homer and being an insane uneducated moron for your team. Steeler flags on your car, steeler shirts in church. Kids dressed up in jersey's year round. I mean, cmon, that's just stupid.
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TEs also the same but with the addition of Jared Cook who mnay say was the best TE drafted this year and has shown great hands and WRs speed 4.45 they are improved here.[/ QUOTE]

He's the 4th TE, likely to be inactive, and who (other than Tenn fans/media) said he was better than Pettigrew?



One could perhaps make a reasonable argument that their RB's are, I don't know, the same guys? Since, you know, they're the same guys.



4th string, likely to be inactive



Their solution at WR was to bring in a #3 caliber guy to be #1. He's been injured, so give them a pass on that not working out.

Kenny Britt has proven what? I think he will be better than Brandon Jones, but he has yet to prove even that.

The bottom line is Justin Gage is the #1 WR. This is never good.



Only Dominique Edison made the roster. This is going to help give them a better passing game?



Sorry, none of the things you mention appear to likely to make a difference. The possible exception is Britt. He could really be something special - but even WRs who end up being that rarely make a difference as rookies.

Bottom line: A rational examination suggests the Titans will still be hampered by a poor passing game.


You maybe right on most of what you said. I would correct you on the RBs that Ringer played great albiet preseaon and is going to be active to return kicks and is the #3 RB passing Henry. Edison is looking like he could be a real surprise and will probably be the #3 WR tonight. Lastly years recievers were woeful and so they are now definitely improved and in any case the Steelers I think will offer d ecent challenge on the defense. The bottom line is I think the Titans can score more on the Steelers D than the Steelers offense can score on the Titans D. I will agree that the Titans weakest area is the passing game and the Steelers weakest area is there o-line. Remember last year the Titans sacked Ben 5 times and caused 4 turnovers though it was in Ten. that was without Haynesworth.
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I don't care if people make fun of the Steelers really, I just don't get how this is funny? I run across the same thing for fans of every team in every sport (I mean, I haven't seen fans of every team in every sport, but if I'm somewhere with a bunch of Colts and Pats fans, there will be random dudes shouting out crap like the above).

As a Steelers fan, I agree with you. If another team would have won the super bowl last year, people would be talking about how shitty that team's fans act. I have not been around the main Steeler fan base either, and I am sure that they act like asshats, but this can be said of any fan base of any team in any sport. Especially one that is winning.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:01 PM   #36
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Cook might be the best pure receiving TE but Pettigrew is a load on the block. He is going to be a dominating all around TE.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:04 PM   #40
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One side benefit of Pittsburgh winning the Super Bowl last year is now everyone is complaining about Steelers fans rather than Patriots fans.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:36 PM   #41
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There's actually a pretty big contingent that believes Cook will be the best TE of this class.

Can you quote them?

Even if that is true (and the people that matter think he'll be the third best TE, which is still pretty good) its not like he's going to give them a huge improvement in their passing game this year. Reasons for that being that the Titans have a pretty good passing-to-the-TE game already. Without checking, I'd guess they were among the best in the league last season. Because they had pretty good TE's last year (and lousy WRs). Those TE are still there. Cook has virtually no chance to improve that aspect of their offense (one they are trying to downgrade, mind you). And ZERO chance to help that aspect of their passing game tonight (he's not playing).

Galaril - you in part make my point for me. I had heard Edison looks like a steal and will be a real player, along with Britt looking like the best WR in the class. But, having one rookies starting at WR and another at #3 means you are weak at WR. They just don't make much of an impact.

I find the discussion of "most annoying fans" funny. I think people tend to think that the fans of the teams they hate the most are the most annoying. And when those teams are successful, their fans enjoying it are even more annoying.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:49 PM   #42
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Can you quote them?

Even if that is true (and the people that matter think he'll be the third best TE, which is still pretty good) its not like he's going to give them a huge improvement in their passing game this year. Reasons for that being that the Titans have a pretty good passing-to-the-TE game already. Without checking, I'd guess they were among the best in the league last season. Because they had pretty good TE's last year (and lousy WRs). Those TE are still there. Cook has virtually no chance to improve that aspect of their offense (one they are trying to downgrade, mind you). And ZERO chance to help that aspect of their passing game tonight (he's not playing).

Galaril - you in part make my point for me. I had heard Edison looks like a steal and will be a real player, along with Britt looking like the best WR in the class. But, having one rookies starting at WR and another at #3 means you are weak at WR. They just don't make much of an impact.

I find the discussion of "most annoying fans" funny. I think people tend to think that the fans of the teams they hate the most are the most annoying. And when those teams are successful, their fans enjoying it are even more annoying.


That is just anm opinion and not always true though usually I guess this is why they play the games good luck to your team anyways.
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That rookie WRs don't usually make much of an impact????

Uhhh
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:51 PM   #44
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That rookie WRs don't usually make much of an impact????

Uhhh
Usually yes but not always. Jerry Rice first season stats: 49 receptions for 927 at 18.9 avg.

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Old 09-10-2009, 03:56 PM   #45
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I find the discussion of "most annoying fans" funny. I think people tend to think that the fans of the teams they hate the most are the most annoying. And when those teams are successful, their fans enjoying it are even more annoying.

Exactly.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:02 PM   #46
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Usually yes but not always. Jerry Rice first season stats: 49 receptions for 927 at 18.9 avg.

Randy Moss was even better!

I agree - if Britt is as good as a rookie as Rice or Moss, the Titans will have a vastly improved passing game.

If, however, he proves not to be as good as the 2 all-pro-as-rookie WRs of the last 25 years, the Titans could indeed be limited in the passing game yet again.

Actually considering that Jones was their #2, Britt is almost assured of being an upgrade.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:04 PM   #47
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Usually yes but not always. Jerry Rice first season stats: 49 receptions for 927 at 18.9 avg.

Sure, but are the odds in favor of the Titans having drafted two HoF WRs (not all of which have good first seasons mind you) or having drafted typical rookie receiver 1 and 2? The Titans' WRs are going to be a huge weakness this season just like last season unless they get uncommon production from WRs that haven't proven themselves to be starting caliber ones.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:06 PM   #48
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I have Britt in the FOFC Keeper League. If he's the next Jerry Rice, yay.
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I have Britt in the FOFC Keeper League. If he's the next Jerry Rice, yay.

I do think he'll be the best WR from this class (since Crabtree is looking more and more like a WR from the 2010 class. I also think he's a rookie WR, which means he'll have some games where he looks like a HoF'er, and some where you wonder if he is dressed.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:12 PM   #50
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Rice wasn´t even that impressive historically :
ESPN.com: Page 2 : The best rookie receivers ever

just in case you want to shoot any higher later in the year

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