Who is going to be the Odd man out in Minnesota?

NewIdentity · 08-24-2009, 03:34 AM

With the Addition of Brett who gets the pink slip?

1) Favre
2) Jackson
3) Rosenfels
4) Booty

Booty already had to give up his #4 jersey, I wonder if he will also lose his Viking jersey as well. I am assuming that Booty would not clear waivers to be put on the practice squad.

Epi_862 · 08-24-2009, 03:36 AM

They'll keep all four, unless someone overpays for Tarvaris.

SackAttack · 08-24-2009, 03:44 AM

Green Bay sports radio keeps talking about Tavaris Jackson to SF making sense. Who knows.

I suspect he'd have the most trade value of the Jackson/Rosenfels/Booty trio, though.

Karlifornia · 08-24-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Green Bay sports radio keeps talking about Tavaris Jackson to SF making sense. Who knows.

I suspect he'd have the most trade value of the Jackson/Rosenfels/Booty trio, though.

No chance SF trades for Jackson.

albionmoonlight · 08-24-2009, 07:55 AM

Jackson is the odd man out. If Favre is the present, and Sage is the immediate future, and Booty is the slightly more distant future, then you have got to get rid of Jackson.

larrymcg421 · 08-24-2009, 08:04 AM

Rosenfels: Career 5.2 INT% (Coming off a season where he was worse)
Jackson: Career 3.4 INT% (Coming off a season where he was much better)

Could someone explain to me what has caused everyone to just completely dismiss Jackson after starting only 19 games?

DaddyTorgo · 08-24-2009, 08:05 AM

I dunno...I kind of like Jackson. I mean I don't think he's great right now or anything, but he has the potential still to be something, where Rosenfels is pretty much...maxed out

albionmoonlight · 08-24-2009, 08:18 AM

I have not followed the two enough to know that Rosenfels is better. But it seemed like Minnesota made that choice when they brought him on board. The sense I got was that he was being signed to be the starter (pre-Favre, of course).

gstelmack · 08-24-2009, 08:19 AM

I want Favre to have another 25% completion game and get axed.

RedKingGold · 08-24-2009, 08:20 AM

Methinks you'll see Jackson in the UFL shortly.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-24-2009, 10:21 AM

Odd man? Minnesota? Has to be this guy

RomaGoth · 08-24-2009, 10:25 AM

Where is the poll?

Bobble · 08-24-2009, 10:38 AM

First man out? It's gotta be that new kid, Farve or whatever. I mean, come on. That's just not the name of a future hall-of-famer.

NewIdentity · 08-24-2009, 11:20 AM

Poll closes Sept 5th. So all those wanting to pull a Vick vote and wait until after the Vikings make their final cuts to vote will be out of luck.

Kodos · 08-24-2009, 11:44 AM

I bet Favre will spontaneously retire in a few weeks, saying he just doesn't have anything left to give.

He'll then sign with the Bears 3 weeks later.

MJ4H · 08-24-2009, 11:49 AM

who names their qb after a bean anyway

RomaGoth · 08-24-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NewIdentity

Poll closes Sept 5th. So all those wanting to pull a Vick vote and wait until after the Vikings make their final cuts to vote will be out of luck.

Nicely done.

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I bet Favre will spontaneously retire in a few weeks, saying he just doesn't have anything left to give.

He'll then sign with the Bears 3 weeks later.

Don't forget he needs to announce his retirement, then delay the press conference for a week, then come back to the NFL, delay the press conference another week, then sign with the Lions.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-24-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

who names their qb after a bean anyway

Eh, they're just copying MLB with Lima & Pinto.

larrymcg421 · 08-24-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I bet Favre will spontaneously retire in a few weeks, saying he just doesn't have anything left to give.

He'll then sign with the Bears 3 weeks later.

The funniest thing about this would be Jay Cutler's reaction.

RomaGoth · 08-24-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

The funniest thing about this would be Jay Cutler's reaction.

By funniest, do you mean his tirade and an immediate demand to be traded? Yes, that would be rather humorous.

NewIdentity · 09-04-2009, 07:08 PM

Jackson takes the lead.

Reports are everywhere saying that the Vikings are currently shopping Jackson around.

With the polls closing in a few days all those last minute voters better jump on the Jackson bandwagon now!

NewIdentity · 09-05-2009, 12:35 AM

This one is going to go down to the wire. The guys at NFL live just said the Vikings are going to have to keep Jackson, because neither Rosenfels or Booty are a viable #2.

Lathum · 09-05-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NewIdentity

This one is going to go down to the wire. The guys at NFL live just said the Vikings are going to gave to keep Jackson, because neither Rosenfels or Booty are a viable #2.

Then why did they trade for Rosenfelds if he isn't at least a #2?

Julio Riddols · 09-05-2009, 03:54 AM

The Vikings are retarded for giving up on this guy. I really can't understand it. He played pretty damned good, especially in the last 5 weeks last year, and had pretty much nobody to really throw to. If I recall correctly, he was the top rated passer in the league over that span. Thats no easy feat no matter who the RB is, and it shows a measure of consistency. It also came after he had been benched, which shows he is willing and able to learn and bounce back from struggles. He also has the support of the team.

In my opinion, I hope he goes to Denver or SF or even Detroit and gets to start like he deserves. He's getting positively fucked by the front office in Minny.

He and Jason Campbell should start a 'Dangerfield QB Club' for talented young passers who are given no respect. (Funny thing is, its probably because of a certain stigma regarding black QBs. I don't doubt this plays into the equation one bit.)

NiteMaestro · 09-05-2009, 09:20 AM

Jackson will stay. He's shown the potential, and the work ethic to take a restructured deal for the next few years. He'll be a starter yet... Probably next year.

Sage is good, but not young or a solid starter. He's serviceable, but with Jackson making strides, the Vikings will soon feel that they overpaid IMO.

Farve starts, of course.

Booty? He's cheap. So keep him.

Booty will probably be PSed this year, or the Vikings will try to ship Sage to NE (if the Eagles don't send Feeley first, lol)

NiteMaestro · 09-05-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The Vikings are retarded for giving up on this guy. I really can't understand it. He played pretty damned good, especially in the last 5 weeks last year, and had pretty much nobody to really throw to. If I recall correctly, he was the top rated passer in the league over that span. Thats no easy feat no matter who the RB is, and it shows a measure of consistency. It also came after he had been benched, which shows he is willing and able to learn and bounce back from struggles. He also has the support of the team.

In my opinion, I hope he goes to Denver or SF or even Detroit and gets to start like he deserves. He's getting positively fucked by the front office in Minny.

He and Jason Campbell should start a 'Dangerfield QB Club' for talented young passers who are given no respect. (Funny thing is, its probably because of a certain stigma regarding black QBs. I don't doubt this plays into the equation one bit.)

Black QB issue?
With Jackson? I don't think so.... Last I remember, wasn't their owner black (or still is? iunno).
Campbell? Yes.
The Redskins are still owned by Dan Snyder... So the fact that JCampbell is black most DEFINITELY plays a part in this. At least in the front office...

sovereignstar · 09-05-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The Vikings are retarded for giving up on this guy. I really can't understand it. He played pretty damned good, especially in the last 5 weeks last year, and had pretty much nobody to really throw to. If I recall correctly, he was the top rated passer in the league over that span. Thats no easy feat no matter who the RB is, and it shows a measure of consistency. It also came after he had been benched, which shows he is willing and able to learn and bounce back from struggles. He also has the support of the team.

In my opinion, I hope he goes to Denver or SF or even Detroit and gets to start like he deserves. He's getting positively fucked by the front office in Minny.

He and Jason Campbell should start a 'Dangerfield QB Club' for talented young passers who are given no respect. (Funny thing is, its probably because of a certain stigma regarding black QBs. I don't doubt this plays into the equation one bit.)

lol

NiteMaestro · 09-05-2009, 09:32 AM

ROTF... I remember that.
You're wrong for posting it though... :P

sovereignstar · 09-05-2009, 09:38 AM

I'm a Vikings fan who's very familiar with the good decisions of Mr. Jackson. I wish I could find the highlight of the backwards jump pass Jackson threw in the must-win game against the Skins in '07. The guy gets no respect though. No respect at all.

NiteMaestro · 09-05-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I'm a Vikings fan who's very familiar with the good decisions of Mr. Jackson. I wish I could find the highlight of the backwards jump pass Jackson threw in the must-win game against the Skins in '07. The guy gets no respect though. No respect at all.

I look at it like McNabb's situation in Philly.
He may never get the respect, and may be a better QB for it. The Black QB thing is always there (and always will be), but I've never gotten the impression that Minn. was one of the teams that had a history with it. They always seemed rather progressive IMO.

I think Childress and the organization want to keep Jackson around. He can get it done, but the team is in a 'win now' situation. Making it so his development is 'harmful' to the team as a whole. Look at Tenn. We're in the same situation. We are in a 'win now' stage, so Kerry's the better option. I believe VY will be a better QB in the long run, but for right now, we need someone who can manage the game and make plays when we need them. Thusly, Collins, and Favre. :P

claphamsa · 09-05-2009, 11:01 AM

People think jason Campbell has talent? have they not seen him play?

NiteMaestro · 09-05-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

People think jason Campbell has talent? have they not seen him play?

He's not an elite QB, imo.
But he has the arm, is accurate enough. Smart (to learn 7 systems in 8 years?!? gotta be smarter than ur average bear)

He'll be like a strong armed Pennington. Not gonna light up the scoreboard. But a great QB to compliment a strong run. He won't make mistakes often.

sovereignstar · 09-05-2009, 06:54 PM

Booty = Cut

NewIdentity · 09-06-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Booty = Cut

But the option is still open for him to be signed to the P.S. if nobody signs him.

I am still shocked Garcia was cut by the Raiders. I would love to see Denver now pick him up.

bhlloy · 09-06-2009, 03:17 PM

Considering Booty wasn't really a great QB with all that talent around him at USC and doesn't have above average physical tools, this makes sense IMO. Jackson has twice the upside he does. I'd be absolutely stunned if Booty is ever even a decent backup QB in the NFL to be honest.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-06-2009, 10:06 PM

NFL Network is reporting that Booty was signed to the Viking's practice squad this evening.

sovereignstar · 10-14-2009, 06:12 PM

Booty was released from the practice squad today.

View Poll Results: Who is going to be the Odd man out in Minnesota?
Favre	3	6.67%
Jackson	18	40.00%
Rosenfels	5	11.11%
Booty	11	24.44%
Nobody, Booty clears waivers and goes to the PS	7	15.56%
None of the Above.	1	2.22%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

08-24-2009, 08:04 AM	#6
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Rosenfels: Career 5.2 INT% (Coming off a season where he was worse) Jackson: Career 3.4 INT% (Coming off a season where he was much better) Could someone explain to me what has caused everyone to just completely dismiss Jackson after starting only 19 games? __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

08-24-2009, 08:05 AM	#7
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I dunno...I kind of like Jackson. I mean I don't think he's great right now or anything, but he has the potential still to be something, where Rosenfels is pretty much...maxed out __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

08-24-2009, 08:19 AM	#9
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I want Favre to have another 25% completion game and get axed. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

08-24-2009, 10:21 AM	#11
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Odd man? Minnesota? Has to be this guy __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-24-2009, 03:36 AM	#2
Epi_862 Mascot Join Date: Mar 2008	They'll keep all four, unless someone overpays for Tarvaris.

08-24-2009, 03:44 AM	#3
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Green Bay sports radio keeps talking about Tavaris Jackson to SF making sense. Who knows. I suspect he'd have the most trade value of the Jackson/Rosenfels/Booty trio, though.

08-24-2009, 07:55 AM	#5
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Jackson is the odd man out. If Favre is the present, and Sage is the immediate future, and Booty is the slightly more distant future, then you have got to get rid of Jackson.

08-24-2009, 08:18 AM	#8
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I have not followed the two enough to know that Rosenfels is better. But it seemed like Minnesota made that choice when they brought him on board. The sense I got was that he was being signed to be the starter (pre-Favre, of course).

08-24-2009, 08:20 AM	#10
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Methinks you'll see Jackson in the UFL shortly.

08-24-2009, 10:38 AM	#13
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	First man out? It's gotta be that new kid, Farve or whatever. I mean, come on. That's just not the name of a future hall-of-famer.

08-24-2009, 11:20 AM	#14
NewIdentity High School JV Join Date: Jun 2009	Poll closes Sept 5th. So all those wanting to pull a Vick vote and wait until after the Vikings make their final cuts to vote will be out of luck. Last edited by NewIdentity : 08-24-2009 at 11:21 AM.

08-24-2009, 11:44 AM	#15
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I bet Favre will spontaneously retire in a few weeks, saying he just doesn't have anything left to give. He'll then sign with the Bears 3 weeks later. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

08-24-2009, 11:49 AM	#16
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	who names their qb after a bean anyway __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

09-04-2009, 07:08 PM	#21
NewIdentity High School JV Join Date: Jun 2009	Jackson takes the lead. Reports are everywhere saying that the Vikings are currently shopping Jackson around. With the polls closing in a few days all those last minute voters better jump on the Jackson bandwagon now! __________________ I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. Michael Jordan

09-05-2009, 12:35 AM	#22
NewIdentity High School JV Join Date: Jun 2009	This one is going to go down to the wire. The guys at NFL live just said the Vikings are going to have to keep Jackson, because neither Rosenfels or Booty are a viable #2. __________________ I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. Michael Jordan Last edited by NewIdentity : 09-05-2009 at 12:57 AM.

09-05-2009, 03:54 AM	#24
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	The Vikings are retarded for giving up on this guy. I really can't understand it. He played pretty damned good, especially in the last 5 weeks last year, and had pretty much nobody to really throw to. If I recall correctly, he was the top rated passer in the league over that span. Thats no easy feat no matter who the RB is, and it shows a measure of consistency. It also came after he had been benched, which shows he is willing and able to learn and bounce back from struggles. He also has the support of the team. In my opinion, I hope he goes to Denver or SF or even Detroit and gets to start like he deserves. He's getting positively fucked by the front office in Minny. He and Jason Campbell should start a 'Dangerfield QB Club' for talented young passers who are given no respect. (Funny thing is, its probably because of a certain stigma regarding black QBs. I don't doubt this plays into the equation one bit.) __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

09-05-2009, 09:20 AM	#25
NiteMaestro High School JV Join Date: Nov 2008	Jackson will stay. He's shown the potential, and the work ethic to take a restructured deal for the next few years. He'll be a starter yet... Probably next year. Sage is good, but not young or a solid starter. He's serviceable, but with Jackson making strides, the Vikings will soon feel that they overpaid IMO. Farve starts, of course. Booty? He's cheap. So keep him. Booty will probably be PSed this year, or the Vikings will try to ship Sage to NE (if the Eagles don't send Feeley first, lol)

09-05-2009, 09:32 AM	#28
NiteMaestro High School JV Join Date: Nov 2008	ROTF... I remember that. You're wrong for posting it though... :P

09-05-2009, 09:38 AM	#29
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I'm a Vikings fan who's very familiar with the good decisions of Mr. Jackson. I wish I could find the highlight of the backwards jump pass Jackson threw in the must-win game against the Skins in '07. The guy gets no respect though. No respect at all.

09-05-2009, 11:01 AM	#31
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	People think jason Campbell has talent? have they not seen him play? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

09-05-2009, 06:54 PM	#33
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Booty = Cut

09-06-2009, 03:17 PM	#35
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Considering Booty wasn't really a great QB with all that talent around him at USC and doesn't have above average physical tools, this makes sense IMO. Jackson has twice the upside he does. I'd be absolutely stunned if Booty is ever even a decent backup QB in the NFL to be honest.

09-06-2009, 10:06 PM	#36
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	NFL Network is reporting that Booty was signed to the Viking's practice squad this evening. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-14-2009, 06:12 PM	#37
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Booty was released from the practice squad today. Last edited by sovereignstar : 10-14-2009 at 06:14 PM.

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