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Goodbye, Manny: Ramirez to sit 50 games for PEDs
Per ESPN and the guys in the MLB thread. I think this warrants its own thread.
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05-07-2009, 11:01 AM | #2 |
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Holy shit.
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05-07-2009, 11:02 AM | #3 |
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Put an asterisk beside that 13-0 home record.
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05-07-2009, 11:03 AM | #4 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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One too many 'do rags?
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Two cities in the nation react while the rest of the nation yawns.
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05-07-2009, 11:03 AM | #6 |
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sportsdigs...errr, MLB thread...had this 10 minutes ago
haha...didn't even read sami's post, but yes I agree it's a better idea to have it's own thread. Last edited by Logan : 05-07-2009 at 11:04 AM. |
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Wow, if true. But who else can win that division?
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05-07-2009, 11:05 AM | #9 |
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This is so lame. Manny is a jackass, but it was always fun to watch him hit. Now, maybe he is another tainted phony.
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05-07-2009, 11:06 AM | #10 |
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Good to see you aren't tone deaf on just politics.
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Wow... big story. Wonder how many more will get caught.
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So let's think through the contract situation...Manny's only getting paid $10M up front this year, and I assume he is suspended without pay, right? If this blows up on Manny, does Boras NOT have him void the second year? Would the Dodgers still go forward with another 2-3 year deal at the end of this one, given this info?
Those 2 $20M options he got voided are looking better and better every day... Also, I bet Juan Pierre is a happy man today.
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I hope Xavier Paul starts not Pierre.
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05-07-2009, 11:20 AM | #18 |
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Brett will sign today. How dare Manny steal his headlines!!!!
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05-07-2009, 11:22 AM | #20 |
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Boras is saying its a "prescribed drug" and not a steroid.
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05-07-2009, 11:25 AM | #21 |
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Yeah, before we proclaim him the next Giambi or ARoid, it's worth seeing what he actually tested positive for. I have a hard time believing a 36 year old vet who already signed his big deal would be so stupid as to take roids during the season when you know they are testing. But he is Manny...
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But as I said in the other thread, in this day and age, if he's stupid enough to take a prescribed drug without investigating if it would cause him to fail a steroids test, then he deserves the 50 day suspension for stupidity.
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I didn't disagree I'm just saying there's a big difference between testing positive for roids vs. Ginko or some shit.
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Eh, I don't really care whether it's roids or not. Banned is banned.
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Wait, why did they suspend him? It's just Manny being Manny...
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I had no idea he was a Ped....truly disgusting.
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This is big news everywhere. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
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No there isn't. It's like the uptick in cold med usage or the number of athletes who suddenly needed asthma meds as ways of getting PEDs with an "excuse".
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Oooh I have a conspiracy theory! The physician he saw is a fan of some other NL West team (edit: or a Cleveland or Boston fan who is still bitter about "Manny being Manny"). I don't care what it was. It's his responsibility (and to his credit, he's taking responsibility) to make sure what he's taking is OK. /tk
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Does the baseball policy suspend on the first instance? Or do they keep it between player/union/testing org and suspend on second instance?
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First instance.
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No, this is first instance.
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The counter to this is that I'm sure we're going to get Manny overload the next couple of days and it's going to be overexposed as a story. I'm not saying it's not big news, but we're also going to be complaining about Manny coverage about this time tomorrow. SI
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At what point will it just be easier to put asterisks by the numbers of the guys who didn't use PEDs? It might save ink in the long run.
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I think it's easier to just assume everyone uses, and thus consider all records and numbers legit. This still kind of feels like a lottery to me. 2-3 positive tests a year? Those just feel like random accidents, and that everyone else is up to date on their masking agents. Last edited by molson : 05-07-2009 at 12:09 PM. |
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Regardless of the medical issue why would he not go to the club doctor? They would (or should) know enough to not prescribe something that is banned.
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Very, very true And my biased self would rather hear about baseball above any other sport. (EDIT: had "unbiased") (Just not these types of stories...) SI
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Sounds a lot more likely by the day. And, frankly, that's a shame because I'm sure there are players out there not using. But they don't/won't speak up and I'm really starting to think the number using far outnumbers the ones not using whereas I was thinking the opposite for a very long time. SI
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Yes, perhaps I did.
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Or, even if the club doctor does it, you would think that the player would have a great excuse upon getting caught. Certainly you would think that a player would have a great claim for not losing his salary during a suspension if all he did was take what the team doctor gave him. |
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That really has nothing to do with whether this is a story that only NY/Boston and LA care about, while the rest of us think it's no big deal and too much is being made of it. Whether it gets run into the ground from this point forward is pretty much a given, isn't it? That's ESPN's MO these days.
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Of course they are going to run it into the ground, but, quite obviously, the best hitter on the team with the best record in baseball... in addition to him being considered a sure thing first ballot Hall of Famer... means its a pretty sizable deal.
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