It sucks to be prevented from being a good person....

flere-imsaho · 04-02-2009, 10:04 AM

Every time there's a blood drive (in the community, at work, etc...) I'm reminded that I can't give blood in the States because I lived in England in 1993-1994 and from 1995 to 1999 and LifeSource (amongst others) are afraid of Mad Cow Disease.

It really sucks because I'm O-, the universal donor.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-02-2009, 10:10 AM

Meh. Any idiot can donate blood.

A better contribution is to have a child that is raised well and becomes a productive member of society. That's becoming an increasinly scarce commodity.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-02-2009, 10:15 AM

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Maple Leafs · 04-02-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

A better contribution is to have a child that is raised well and becomes a productive member of society. That's becoming an increasinly scarce commodity.

Yeah, but people from England can't do that either.

Dutch · 04-02-2009, 10:38 AM

Donate money every year to the Red Cross to "make up" for it. They still need some cash to perform the work.

Noop · 04-02-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Meh. Any idiot can donate blood.

A better contribution is to have a child that is raised well and becomes a productive member of society. That's becoming an increasinly scarce commodity.

Well, I finally can agree with you about something.

Drake · 04-02-2009, 10:57 AM

Not donating blood makes you a bad person?

Can't you make up for it by buying energy efficient light bulbs or something?

CamEdwards · 04-02-2009, 11:53 AM

You definitely should do another good deed to make up for the lack of donating blood. I suggest handjobs for the homeless.

JediKooter · 04-02-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

You definitely should do another good deed to make up for the lack of donating blood. I suggest handjobs for the homeless.

He could do it on Palm Sunday.

Dutch · 04-02-2009, 12:23 PM

I'm pretty sure handjobs for the homeless is part of the...erm...stimulus package.

DanGarion · 04-02-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Meh. Any idiot can donate blood.

A better contribution is to have a child that is raised well and becomes a productive member of society. That's becoming an increasinly scarce commodity.

Don't have to have a child to make a contribution...

DanGarion · 04-02-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Every time there's a blood drive (in the community, at work, etc...) I'm reminded that I can't give blood in the States because I lived in England in 1993-1994 and from 1995 to 1999 and LifeSource (amongst others) are afraid of Mad Cow Disease.

It really sucks because I'm O-, the universal donor.

There is some new thing in California about not letting people that have had tattoos be donors. I've had two people tell me that because they have got a tattoo in the last couple years the DMV is declining them from being donors. I can't find anything about it and I can't confirm from my wife if they asked her when she got her new license but a couple guys in my training classes said the person taking their picture asked about their tattoos and denied their donor request.

Karlifornia · 04-02-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

There is some new thing in California about not letting people that have had tattoos be donors. I've had two people tell me that because they have got a tattoo in the last couple years the DMV is declining them from being donors. I can't find anything about it and I can't confirm from my wife if they asked her when she got her new license but a couple guys in my training classes said the person taking their picture asked about their tattoos and denied their donor request.

I have a tattoo on my forearm and nobody has said anything to me about it. Maybe in 2011 when I renew my license it'll come up.

ColtCrazy · 04-02-2009, 05:12 PM

I'm the same way. I'm AB-, and I have never been able to give blood because I've been to India, then later lived in England for a time.

DanGarion · 04-02-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I have a tattoo on my forearm and nobody has said anything to me about it. Maybe in 2011 when I renew my license it'll come up.

I can't find any information to back it up online on the DMV or Donor site. So I think it was a DMV idiot (not calling all people that work at the DMV an idiot just this person) taking things into their own hands...

RainMaker · 04-02-2009, 05:14 PM

Question since I don't follow this stuff much, but is there really a shortage of blood out there? I haven't heard about that in many years.

Drake · 04-02-2009, 06:17 PM

Question: Why not just *not* tell them you lived abroad and go ahead and give blood? If you've got risky blood, they'll catch it at the testing center and just discard your shit. Do you answer all internet surveys accurately, too?

DanGarion · 04-02-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Drake

Question: Why not just *not* tell them you lived abroad and go ahead and give blood? If you've got risky blood, they'll catch it at the testing center and just discard your shit. Do you answer all internet surveys accurately, too?

Some people don't lie.

cuervo72 · 04-02-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

I can't find any information to back it up online on the DMV or Donor site. So I think it was a DMV idiot (not calling all people that work at the DMV an idiot just this person) taking things into their own hands...

Here in MD, they do ask if you've had any piercings or tattoos in the past year.

Blood Donor Eligibility - American Red Cross Greater Chesapeake and Potomac Region

cuervo72 · 04-02-2009, 06:27 PM

Dola - that was IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND too, only the first link googling "red cross tattoo blood donation"

edit: the second link includes this:

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Tattoo
Wait 12 months after a tattoo if the tattoo was applied in a state that does not regulate tattoo facilities. This requirement is related to concerns about hepatitis. Learn more about hepatitis and blood donation.

Acceptable if the tattoo was applied by a state-regulated entity using sterile needles and ink that is not reused. There are 32 states that currently regulate tattoo facilities. You should discuss your particular situation with the health historian at the time of donation.

http://www.redcross.org/en/eligibility

DanGarion · 04-02-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Dola - that was IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND too, only the first link googling "red cross tattoo blood donation"

edit: the second link includes this:

Blood Eligibility Guidelines

Donor cards in CA have nothing to do with Red Cross...

Pumpy Tudors · 04-02-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Meh. Any idiot can donate blood.

A better contribution is to have a child that is raised well and becomes a productive member of society. That's becoming an increasinly scarce commodity.

YEAH GIVING BLOOD IS FOR WUSSIES

flere-imsaho · 04-03-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Drake

Question: Why not just *not* tell them you lived abroad and go ahead and give blood? If you've got risky blood, they'll catch it at the testing center and just discard your shit. Do you answer all internet surveys accurately, too?

There's no test for CJD and it has an unknown gestation period.

Mustang · 04-03-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Drake

Question: Why not just *not* tell them you lived abroad and go ahead and give blood? If you've got risky blood, they'll catch it at the testing center and just discard your shit. Do you answer all internet surveys accurately, too?

He could do that but then he would be a bad person doing a good thing and it would cancel out not giving him the full goodness effect.

I was going to post earlier that at least he didn't lie (which was a good thing).

flere-imsaho · 04-03-2009, 09:04 AM

I don't want to get all preachy, but you shouldn't lie when you give blood. That blood is going to go into another human being. Yes, there are tests, but what about things tests don't catch? Or what if the test is incorrectly done, even if that's unlikely?

Subby · 04-03-2009, 09:07 AM

The short answer to RainMaker's question is: absolutely. The need for blood donations is increasing while the number of donors is decreasing. 35% of the population is eligible to donate while only about 5% actually do. The center where I donate has less than a 1 day supply of a number of blood types (O-, AB-, A-).

I donate every two weeks using a method called ABC (automated blood collection). They hook you up to a machine that draws blood from your arm, spins the components out (platelets, plasma, red blood cells) and collects what you are donating and returns the rest to your body.

It takes 90 minutes or so and is a great way to help the community. You can donate plasma and platelets every two weeks and red blood cells every eight weeks. One platelet donation has as many platelets as SIX whole blood donations. They are used to help patients recovering from cancer, leukemia, and trauma surgery (to name a few). Additionally, if you are CMV- then there is a good chance that your components are being used for babies in need.

The best part is you just sit there with your feet up, wrapped in warm blankets, watching a movie or reading a book or whatever. It is really easy. When the process is done it is cool to see the bag or bags filled with each component you are donating.

Anyway, if you are eligible, I highly encourage folks to look into regular ABC donation at their local medical center.

flere-imsaho · 04-03-2009, 09:09 AM

Additionally, I think the thing that bugs me is that a couple of years ago I finally overcame a childhood fear of needles and figured "Hey, I can give blood now!" only to be told I couldn't, due to a potential link to CJD that's never been proven. Seems like a waste, to be honest.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-03-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Seems like a waste, to be honest.

The lost pints just aren't worth the risk. I mean, we're pretty screwed if we end up with a tainted blood supply.

Castlerock · 04-03-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Drake

Question: Why not just *not* tell them you lived abroad and go ahead and give blood? If you've got risky blood, they'll catch it at the testing center and just discard your shit. Do you answer all internet surveys accurately, too?

Wow. I hope I never need blood.

flere-imsaho · 04-03-2009, 09:34 AM

Sure, if the CJD link turns out to be true in 20 years (along with a long-term gestation period) and affects almost everyone who ever ate beef, it'll be a bit of a lonely world.

On the other hand, you'll get your dream of a drastically reduced human population.

CamEdwards · 04-03-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Additionally, I think the thing that bugs me is that a couple of years ago I finally overcame a childhood fear of needles and figured "Hey, I can give blood now!" only to be told I couldn't, due to a potential link to CJD that's never been proven. Seems like a waste, to be honest.

On the bright side, now you can get a tattoo and a piercing without worrying that you're going to throw up on the tattoo artist!

Bad-example · 04-03-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Meh. Any idiot can donate blood.

Pretty sure the first post of the thread disproves this assertion.

Drake · 04-03-2009, 11:00 AM

So you're saying I should actually *tell* them I have hepatitis before giving blood?

Learn something every day.

(Kidding.)

Actually, I'm kidding personally. When I worked in drug treatment, that was SOP for addicts giving blood and plasma at places where they pay you for such things. I've known for about ten years now that I should hope I never need a blood transfusion.

sterlingice · 04-03-2009, 11:13 AM

They don't allow me as I take Propecia

Otherwise, I'd be in there every 6 or 8 weeks. I did it once when I was 18, before I started taking, and it went really quick and fairly painless- apparently my blood flows pretty quickly. I gave myself allergy shots for years so needles don't really bother me.

But I still can't give

SI

molson · 04-03-2009, 11:27 AM

I had a phobia about giving blood for a while, and then when I finally did, I got nauseous and passed out. It wasn't very pleasant, I guess a mild version of what it feels like to bleed to death.

So I'm probably red flagged from doing it again. I try to "make it up" in other ways.

Drake · 04-03-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

I had a phobia about giving blood for a while, and then when I finally did, I got nauseous and passed out. It wasn't very pleasant, I guess a mild version of what it feels like to bleed to death.

So I'm probably red flagged from doing it again. I try to "make it up" in other ways.

Don't worry. For healthy people who don't give blood, the Red Cross sneaks into your house and takes it while your sleep.

That's why your mouth tastes like chloroform when you wake up sometimes.

flere-imsaho · 04-03-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

On the bright side, now you can get a tattoo and a piercing without worrying that you're going to throw up on the tattoo artist!

Well now, that's certainly brightened my day up!

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Originally Posted by Bad-example

Pretty sure the first post of the thread disproves this assertion.

Bad-example · 04-03-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

(Was not implying you are an idiot, in case that thought came across)

flere-imsaho · 04-03-2009, 02:26 PM

Schmidty · 04-03-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Some people don't lie.

Everyone lies at some point, and if they tell you different, they're lying.

GrantDawg · 04-03-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Everyone lies at some point, and if they tell you different, they're lying.

That's a lie!

marcmoustache2 · 04-03-2009, 03:52 PM

Through fear of this being a stupid question, why is it more risky to have lived in the UK? Can't you get Mad Cow / CJD in the US? Denny Crane has it for starters.

DanGarion · 04-03-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Everyone lies at some point, and if they tell you different, they're lying.

Yes, but lying about serious things, and lying on stupid things are majorly different. Lying about something so you can donate blood could theoretically kill someone and is a very bad idea. Of course I'm sure there are a number of people that lie anyway and could care less about what could happen because of it.

Schmidty · 04-03-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Yes, but lying about serious things, and lying on stupid things are majorly different. Lying about something so you can donate blood could theoretically kill someone and is a very bad idea. Of course I'm sure there are a number of people that lie anyway and could care less about what could happen because of it.

No, I totally agree about the serious stuff, I was just commenting on your blanket statement.

DanGarion · 04-03-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

No, I totally agree about the serious stuff, I was just commenting on your blanket statement.

Well I'm sure there are some people that don't lie.

Schmidty · 04-03-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Well I'm sure there are some people that don't lie.

Not a chance.

INDalltheway · 04-04-2009, 06:51 PM

Pardon me for not reading the thread, but does donating blood seriously make you a good person?

INDalltheway · 04-04-2009, 06:52 PM

dola

I think we need a diagram tbh..

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I had a phobia about giving blood for a while, and then when I finally did, I got nauseous and passed out. It wasn't very pleasant, I guess a mild version of what it feels like to bleed to death. So I'm probably red flagged from doing it again. I try to "make it up" in other ways. Last edited by molson : 04-03-2009 at 11:28 AM.

04-02-2009, 10:10 AM	#2
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Meh. Any idiot can donate blood. A better contribution is to have a child that is raised well and becomes a productive member of society. That's becoming an increasinly scarce commodity.

04-02-2009, 10:38 AM	#5
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Donate money every year to the Red Cross to "make up" for it. They still need some cash to perform the work.

04-02-2009, 10:57 AM	#7
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Not donating blood makes you a bad person? Can't you make up for it by buying energy efficient light bulbs or something?

04-02-2009, 12:23 PM	#10
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I'm pretty sure handjobs for the homeless is part of the...erm...stimulus package.

04-02-2009, 05:12 PM	#14
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I'm the same way. I'm AB-, and I have never been able to give blood because I've been to India, then later lived in England for a time.

04-02-2009, 05:14 PM	#16
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Question since I don't follow this stuff much, but is there really a shortage of blood out there? I haven't heard about that in many years.

04-02-2009, 06:17 PM	#17
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Question: Why not just not tell them you lived abroad and go ahead and give blood? If you've got risky blood, they'll catch it at the testing center and just discard your shit. Do you answer all internet surveys accurately, too?

04-03-2009, 09:04 AM	#25
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I don't want to get all preachy, but you shouldn't lie when you give blood. That blood is going to go into another human being. Yes, there are tests, but what about things tests don't catch? Or what if the test is incorrectly done, even if that's unlikely?

04-03-2009, 09:09 AM	#27
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Additionally, I think the thing that bugs me is that a couple of years ago I finally overcame a childhood fear of needles and figured "Hey, I can give blood now!" only to be told I couldn't, due to a potential link to CJD that's never been proven. Seems like a waste, to be honest.

04-03-2009, 09:34 AM	#30
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Sure, if the CJD link turns out to be true in 20 years (along with a long-term gestation period) and affects almost everyone who ever ate beef, it'll be a bit of a lonely world. On the other hand, you'll get your dream of a drastically reduced human population.

04-03-2009, 11:00 AM	#33
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	So you're saying I should actually tell them I have hepatitis before giving blood? Learn something every day. (Kidding.) Actually, I'm kidding personally. When I worked in drug treatment, that was SOP for addicts giving blood and plasma at places where they pay you for such things. I've known for about ten years now that I should hope I never need a blood transfusion.

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flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland

04-03-2009, 03:52 PM	#42
marcmoustache2 n00b Join Date: Mar 2009	Through fear of this being a stupid question, why is it more risky to have lived in the UK? Can't you get Mad Cow / CJD in the US? Denny Crane has it for starters.

04-04-2009, 06:51 PM	#47
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	Pardon me for not reading the thread, but does donating blood seriously make you a good person?

04-04-2009, 06:52 PM	#48
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	dola I think we need a diagram tbh..

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