Who did you vote for in the U.S. Presidential Election?

flere-imsaho · 10-23-2008, 02:13 PM

Poll to follow.

With early voting underway, I thought it might be fun to start recording how we all ended up voting. We'll have to rely on the honor system for people to not participate in the poll if they didn't (or can't) vote.

Additional commentary on how voting went for you this year (long lines, challenges, bad machines, difficult paper ballots, etc...) would be great as well.

Kodos · 10-23-2008, 02:33 PM

Oh sure. Steal my FOFC tracking poll's thunder!

flere-imsaho · 10-23-2008, 02:40 PM

molson · 10-23-2008, 02:47 PM

Shit that's a lot of candidates.

Only 5 on the ballot in Idaho.

I'm still undecided.

sterlingice · 10-23-2008, 02:50 PM

Seriously, there's a Boston Tea Party?

SI

molson · 10-23-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Seriously, there's a Boston Tea Party?

SI

I think they're Libertarians too hard core for the Libertarian Party

"The Boston Tea Party supports reducing the size, scope and power of government at all levels and on all issues, and opposes increasing the size, scope and power of government at any level, for any purpose."

JeeberD · 10-23-2008, 02:53 PM

There were only three parties listed on my ballot...Repub, Dem, and Lib.

It was very quick and easy for me. Was in and out in about 15 minutes, had the the choice of paper ballot or electronic voting, and I went electronic. Read the directions over really quickly, and it was very easy to understand and use.

lordscarlet · 10-23-2008, 02:55 PM

I need to figure out what third party candidates are on the D.C. ballot.

gottimd · 10-23-2008, 02:55 PM

How do you just randomly form a party and get on the ticket? Can I be put on the ticket as the "Imaginary Party" and its me and my couch cushion?

Do you need a certain amount of signatures on a petition or something?

lordscarlet · 10-23-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

How do you just randomly form a party and get on the ticket? Can I be put on the ticket as the "Imaginary Party" and its me and my couch cushion?

Do you need a certain amount of signatures on a petition or something?

I know that at Screen on the Green this summer (the original Superman, fwiw) there was a guy going around asking for signatures to petition for Ralph Nader to be on the D.C. ballot. For what its worth, I signed it. Not because of any support for Nader, but because I think there should be more than two choices.

Lathum · 10-23-2008, 03:00 PM

just my .02 but I think an "I didnt vote" option would make this poll more interesting.

cartman · 10-23-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

How do you just randomly form a party and get on the ticket? Can I be put on the ticket as the "Imaginary Party" and its me and my couch cushion?

Do you need a certain amount of signatures on a petition or something?

Each state has their own requirements to get on the ballot. That's why you don't see all of the tickets listed above on all ballots.

Some states are easier than others. Some states require you to pay a fee and register even if you just want to be a write-in candidate.

JeeberD · 10-23-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

just my .02 but I think an "I didnt vote" option would make this poll more interesting.

If flere wants me to do so, I'll add that on...

Lathum · 10-23-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

If flere wants me to do so, I'll add that on...

lets take a poll abouut it!

GrantDawg · 10-23-2008, 03:20 PM

If you are not voting the Trout party, then blame yourself for four more years of troutless government!

flere-imsaho · 10-23-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

If flere wants me to do so, I'll add that on...

That's a good idea - go for it!

flere-imsaho · 10-23-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Shit that's a lot of candidates.

Yep. Of course not all are on every state's ballot. For simplicity's sake I just listed the ones I found on wikipedia's article on the election.

JeeberD · 10-23-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

That's a good idea - go for it!

Done

lordscarlet · 10-23-2008, 03:43 PM

We have:

McCain/Palin
Obama/Biden
Nader/Gonzalez
McKinney/Clemente (labeled as "Statehood Green", rather than "Green")

GrantDawg · 10-23-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

We have:

McCain/Palin
Obama/Biden
Nader/Gonzalez
McKinney/Clemente (labeled as "Statehood Green", rather than "Green")

"Statehood Green." *cough..suck-ups..cough*

flere-imsaho · 10-23-2008, 03:58 PM

Trout Part is neck-and-neck with McCain/Palin.

GrantDawg · 10-23-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Trout Part is neck-and-neck with McCain/Palin.

Trout's a better option.

st.cronin · 10-23-2008, 04:06 PM

Carol Miller For Congress - About Carol Miller

gottimd · 10-23-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Carol Miller For Congress - About Carol Miller

She's a looker!

Greyroofoo · 10-23-2008, 04:11 PM

I didn't know there were so many socialist parties.

They should be aware that they probably that they are diluting the socialist vote.

lordscarlet · 10-23-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

"Statehood Green." *cough..suck-ups..cough*

Indeed.

I noted that for the benefit of others making of me/DC.

It is particularly annoying because there is a "Statehood Green" party, but this is the "Green" candidate. I don't follow either, but I doubt the Green party campaigns on a platform of DC statehood.

(which we have established I am not campaigning for and I'm not trying to derail this thread with talk of it)

I missed the September primaries, so all of the selections have pretty much been made for me. I didn't hit up the Presidential Primary, though.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-23-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

She's a looker!

Yeah, I would tear her up.

Lorena · 10-23-2008, 05:13 PM

I voted for Pumpy's cousin Tanya

Anthony · 10-23-2008, 05:24 PM

i voted for Pumpy's balls and Cringer's wife's boobies as the VP.

fantom1979 · 10-23-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

I didn't know there were so many socialist parties.

They should be aware that they probably that they are diluting the socialist vote.

Obama is going to be pissed

cartman · 10-23-2008, 07:14 PM

It's Eugene V. Debs all over again!

Buccaneer · 10-23-2008, 07:35 PM

Nice job on the Trout ticket - taking our two most extremists. I can't imagine what FOFC discussions would have been like the past few months if they had been here.

Lathum · 10-23-2008, 07:44 PM

this poll confirms what I have been thinking for a while. McCain is gonna get killed

JediKooter · 10-23-2008, 07:51 PM

I think flere is trying to secretly sway the voting towards Obama/Biden. If you notice, that's the only ticket that has it's font in italics...

Kodos · 10-23-2008, 07:56 PM

You realize that just shows what YOU voted for, right?

JediKooter · 10-23-2008, 08:02 PM

Sonofa.........

Can I get my "New to teh interwebs" badge?

Anthony · 10-23-2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter

Sonofa.........

Can I get my "New to teh interwebs" badge?

In other news, Clay Aiken is gay apparently.

ColtCrazy · 10-23-2008, 09:16 PM

I'm shocked someone hasn't started a Jedi ticket yet.

Lorena · 10-23-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

i voted for Pumpy's balls and Cringer's wife's boobies as the VP.

Hah, you edited your post, how cute.

Apathetic Lurker · 10-24-2008, 12:39 AM

Where the hell is Webb and his damn reds?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-24-2008, 07:35 AM

Any word on what the margin of error is on the FOFC polling thread? I'd probably put the over/under at +/- 15%.

sterlingice · 10-24-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Any word on what the margin of error is on the FOFC polling thread? I'd probably put the over/under at +/- 15%.

I don't think you can accurately make one because the poll is self-selecting. In "the real world", polls are based on the assumption that you are choosing people at random and that's why they're not bad as predictors.

Now, getting into the wayback machine and remembering my statistics class in college, I'll toss out the theory behind polls and why they're decently accurate but how you have outliers and all that. If you choose people blindly and choose a decently large enough sample, you'll get pretty accurate results- typically, something like +-3% and a 95% confidence interval is pretty much standard.

But there are a couple of "definitions" there to explain- one, large enough is actually kindof small, 3% MOE only takes about 1000 people. And then you hear the usual rhetoric of "well, it's just 1000 people- there are millions of voters; it's not accurate". Well, yes and no- an illustration and then a definition below show why that line of reasoning can be true but is usually just denial by whoever said it. If they're randomly chosen, then that thousand people can usually predict how the larger group will vote. It's kindof like, if you flip a coin 100 times, you know the odds are 50/50 but you won't get 50/50 every time you flip a coin 100 times. However, you'll get close to it almost every time.

And these ideas of "close to it" and "almost every time" are what polls are based on. The idea of a poll is not to correctly guess the percentage as that would take an insanely large sample size. Again, the issue of "you're just polling 1000 people to get the votes of millions". However, what something like 1050 random votes get you are a 95% chance to be within +-3 points of the result. That's not a bad statistical game- you can be really close (within 3 points) all but 5% of the time.

That other 5% of the time, tho, your sample is pretty badly not representative and is inaccurate- those are your outliers. Perhaps you randomly called a majority of GOP members when you're polling San Francisco or the only group of farmers in Kansas who vote Democrat. It can happen. However, with all the other polls out there in the Presidential race, you can see those pretty quickly because it looks different than the others.

In Presidential polls, things can be a bit skewed because pollsters have decided it's more accurate to weigh some groups more than others (i.e. they'll call 35% Dem, 30% GOP, and 35% Indep since that is what the registered voting makeup is). That makes it less random but more of an "educated guess", I guess. And, while one firm may be Dem leaning and another GOP leaning, and that may bias them slightly, what they really want is to be the most accurate so they can get the more lucrative contract next election.

SI

Passacaglia · 10-24-2008, 08:04 AM

How can people say "I didn't vote" at this point, since election day hasn't happened yet? Are they not registered, are they planning to change their answer when they do vote, or is this poll only supposed to be for early voters?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-24-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

How can people say "I didn't vote" at this point, since election day hasn't happened yet? Are they not registered, are they planning to change their answer when they do vote, or is this poll only supposed to be for early voters?

My assumption is that they are not registered and/or they already know they aren't going to vote no matter what happens.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-24-2008, 08:07 AM

Just to be clear SI, I had no idea that anyone would bother going into that much detail over the sampling error margin of a message board poll. But kudos to you anyway.

Subby · 10-24-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

My assumption is that they are not registered and/or they already know they aren't going to vote no matter what happens.

They hate America.

sterlingice · 10-24-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Just to be clear SI, I had no idea that anyone would bother going into that much detail over the sampling error margin of a message board poll. But kudos to you anyway.

Actually, I figured it needed to be pointed out since I've seen the "it's a poll, it's not accurate" post quite a few times in the McCain/Obama thread. And that drives me nuts- not it's not always accurate, but it is accurate a lot more often than not. Hell, I used to think that way, then had to work through the damn proofs that show otherwise

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-24-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

They hate America.

No, they just want to have the ability to bitch about everything when something goes wrong in politics while deflecting blame since they didn't vote for any of the politicians making the decision.

GrantDawg · 10-24-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

They hate America.

No, no, no. If they hated America, they'd vote Democrat. Get it straight.

Passacaglia · 10-24-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I doubt the Colonel/Bigglesworth ticket draws as much support nationally.

I guess that means the margin of error is 11.76%.

View Poll Results: Who did you vote for in the U.S. Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin (Republican Party)	41	21.69%
Obama/Biden (Democratic Party)	104	55.03%
Nader/Gonzalez (Independent / Peace & Freedom / Independence Party)	2	1.06%
Barr/Root (Libertarian Party)	7	3.70%
Baldwin/Castle (Constitution Party)	4	2.12%
McKinney/Clemente (Green Party)	0	0%
Keyes/Rohrbough (America's Independent Party)	0	0%
Jay/Knapp (Boston Tea Party)	0	0%
Amondson/Pletten (Prohibition Party)	1	0.53%
Weill/McEnulty (Reform Party)	0	0%
La Riva/Puryear (Socialism & Liberation Party)	0	0%
Moore/Alexander (Socialist Party)	0	0%
Calero/Kennedy (Socialist Workers' Party)	0	0%
PSUColonel/MrBigglesworth (FOFC Trout Party)	10	5.29%
I didn't/won't vote	20	10.58%
Voters: 189. You may not vote on this poll

10-23-2008, 02:33 PM	#2
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Oh sure. Steal my FOFC tracking poll's thunder! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-23-2008, 02:50 PM	#5
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Seriously, there's a Boston Tea Party? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-23-2008, 02:53 PM	#7
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	There were only three parties listed on my ballot...Repub, Dem, and Lib. It was very quick and easy for me. Was in and out in about 15 minutes, had the the choice of paper ballot or electronic voting, and I went electronic. Read the directions over really quickly, and it was very easy to understand and use. __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

10-23-2008, 02:55 PM	#8
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	I need to figure out what third party candidates are on the D.C. ballot. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

10-23-2008, 02:40 PM	#3
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland

10-23-2008, 02:47 PM	#4
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Shit that's a lot of candidates. Only 5 on the ballot in Idaho. I'm still undecided.

10-23-2008, 02:55 PM	#9
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	How do you just randomly form a party and get on the ticket? Can I be put on the ticket as the "Imaginary Party" and its me and my couch cushion? Do you need a certain amount of signatures on a petition or something? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08 Last edited by gottimd : 10-23-2008 at 02:57 PM.

10-23-2008, 03:00 PM	#11
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	just my .02 but I think an "I didnt vote" option would make this poll more interesting.

10-23-2008, 03:20 PM	#15
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	If you are not voting the Trout party, then blame yourself for four more years of troutless government!

10-23-2008, 03:43 PM	#19
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	We have: McCain/Palin Obama/Biden Nader/Gonzalez McKinney/Clemente (labeled as "Statehood Green", rather than "Green") __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

10-23-2008, 03:58 PM	#21
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Trout Part is neck-and-neck with McCain/Palin.

10-23-2008, 04:06 PM	#23
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Carol Miller For Congress - About Carol Miller __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-23-2008, 04:11 PM	#25
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I didn't know there were so many socialist parties. They should be aware that they probably that they are diluting the socialist vote.

10-23-2008, 05:13 PM	#28
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	I voted for Pumpy's cousin Tanya

10-23-2008, 05:24 PM	#29
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i voted for Pumpy's balls and Cringer's wife's boobies as the VP. Last edited by Anthony : 10-23-2008 at 05:36 PM.

10-23-2008, 07:14 PM	#31
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	It's Eugene V. Debs all over again! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-23-2008, 07:35 PM	#32
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Nice job on the Trout ticket - taking our two most extremists. I can't imagine what FOFC discussions would have been like the past few months if they had been here.

10-23-2008, 07:44 PM	#33
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	this poll confirms what I have been thinking for a while. McCain is gonna get killed

10-23-2008, 07:51 PM	#34
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I think flere is trying to secretly sway the voting towards Obama/Biden. If you notice, that's the only ticket that has it's font in italics... __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

10-23-2008, 07:56 PM	#35
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	You realize that just shows what YOU voted for, right? __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-23-2008, 08:02 PM	#36
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Sonofa......... Can I get my "New to teh interwebs" badge? __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4 Last edited by JediKooter : 10-23-2008 at 08:03 PM.

10-23-2008, 09:16 PM	#38
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I'm shocked someone hasn't started a Jedi ticket yet.

10-24-2008, 12:39 AM	#40
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Where the hell is Webb and his damn reds?

10-24-2008, 07:35 AM	#41
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Any word on what the margin of error is on the FOFC polling thread? I'd probably put the over/under at +/- 15%.

10-24-2008, 08:04 AM	#43
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	How can people say "I didn't vote" at this point, since election day hasn't happened yet? Are they not registered, are they planning to change their answer when they do vote, or is this poll only supposed to be for early voters?

10-24-2008, 08:07 AM	#45
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Just to be clear SI, I had no idea that anyone would bother going into that much detail over the sampling error margin of a message board poll. But kudos to you anyway.

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