Brett Favre helping teams prepare for Packers?

DeToxRox · 10-19-2008, 11:30 AM

Heard this on the Fox pregame .. A story is on PFT.. Wanted to see peoples thoughts.

FAVRE HELPED LIONS PREPARE FOR PACKERS
Posted by Mike Florio on October 19, 2008, 12:14 p.m.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

To the extent that any doubt remained regarding the status of the relationship between the Packers and former quarterback Brett Favre, it’s now completely gone.

Per Jay Glazer of FOX, Favre spent 60-to-90 minutes before the Week Two game between the Lions and the Packers educating the Detroit coaching staff regarding the Packers’ offensive strategies.

Did we say wow?

Glazer says that Favre initially called former CEO Matt Millen, who then put Favre in touch with the coaches.

In our view, Brett’s legacy with the Packers has officially been forever stained, if not completely destroyed – unless Favre immediately denies the report, and unless people believe it.

Wow.

The next question is whether and to what extent Favre shared similar information with the Vikings (where his former position coach is the offensive coordinator) before Week One, or with the Seahawks (where his former head coach is the head coach) before Week Six.

If so, Brett’s advice didn’t work. The Packers won all three games.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-19-2008, 11:33 AM

I kind of feel like it's a non-story. It's certainly not a three "Wow." worthy story.

DeToxRox · 10-19-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I kind of feel like it's a non-story. It's certainly not a three "Wow." worthy story.

I'd agree. I think had you know, it'd been vs an NFL team and not the Lions, it could've been more of a story. Unless it comes out he's done it weekly, otherwise I don't see the big deal.

Greyroofoo · 10-19-2008, 11:35 AM

Well at least he didn't use exclamation marks

stevew · 10-19-2008, 11:37 AM

Nobody can stop greg jennings anyways.

Young Drachma · 10-19-2008, 11:45 AM

Well to be fair, Brett asked them to trade him to Minnesota so he could compete against them. He said if they didn't think he was good enough to play anymore, than let him play against them.

And let's be real here, if the Packers coaching staff hasn't improved so much that the inside knowledge that he had to glean made them lose, well, then...oh well.

It's no different than when a guy gets traded in midseason and helps his new team beat his old team if they play each other. There is only so much you can know and adjust to...and it's why spying is effective.

Non-story, really.

Jas_lov · 10-19-2008, 11:54 AM

No it's not the same as when a guy helps his new team beat his old team. If the Jets were playing the Packers and Favre did that it wouldn't be an issue. But to call the Lions and help them beat the Packers while he's playing for the Jets is far worse than what Bellichick did. Favre has tainted his legacy. He said he doesn't care what his legacy is but it's obvious he does because he wants the Packers to fail without him. The media will either spin this as a positive for Favre or give it limited coverage to protect their golden boy so it probably will end up being a non story.

Jas_lov · 10-19-2008, 12:01 PM

Packer fans are already asking why Favre would throw all of us including his old teammates under the bus like this. We understand that he's angry at Thompson and McCarthy but can't believe that he's been reduced to this. I hope it's not true.

Schmidty · 10-19-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

FAVRE HELPED LIONS PREPARE FOR PACKERS

HE DID A SHITTY JOB

Chubby · 10-19-2008, 02:08 PM

After how much of a douche Brett has been this whole past year would this really surprise anyone?

Rich1033 · 10-19-2008, 04:46 PM

Im sorta with Chubby on this one. Just about everything he has done this year leaves me asking why he has to act like such a little bitch. They didnt force him to retire, just let it go man.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-19-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

HE DID A SHITTY JOB

I DONT THINK HE TOLD KITNA TO THROW THREE STRAIGHT INTERCEPTIONS TO END THE GAME

Mustang · 10-19-2008, 05:29 PM

If it is true then Brett has turned into a little bitch.

He should worry about beating the Raiders.

Shkspr · 10-19-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I DONT THINK HE TOLD KITNA TO THROW THREE STRAIGHT INTERCEPTIONS TO END THE GAME

He's been a pretty big douche this year. Maybe he did. :shrug:

Greyroofoo · 10-19-2008, 06:03 PM

He should've given pointers to Peyton Manning.

Cringer · 10-19-2008, 06:26 PM

I could care less about this.

Captain2711 · 10-19-2008, 06:55 PM

maybe he should call Lane Kiffin to help figure out how to beat the Raiders

Matthean · 10-19-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I DONT THINK HE TOLD KITNA TO THROW THREE STRAIGHT INTERCEPTIONS TO END THE GAME

No, see, this is how it breaks down. The Lions staff ignored the advice and got way down. They finally caved, read the advice, and thus the comeback was on. Finally they got to the part labeled as "What I would do to beat the Packers" and that was when the INTs started to happen.

Pumpy Tudors · 10-20-2008, 10:34 AM

I think Tatum Bell is calling people and telling them how to beat the Lions.

flere-imsaho · 10-20-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

No, see, this is how it breaks down. The Lions staff ignored the advice and got way down. They finally caved, read the advice, and thus the comeback was on. Finally they got to the part labeled as "What I would do to beat the Packers" and that was when the INTs started to happen.

From last year:

Poli · 10-20-2008, 10:46 AM

In other news, I've spoke with other youth football coaches about how to beat common opponents.

PackerFanatic · 10-20-2008, 11:31 AM

Over-blown.

molson · 10-20-2008, 11:33 AM

Favre denies this, by the way.

Amazing that so few people care though. What if Bellichick was helping teams beat the Jets? Would that be different just because they're in the same division? What if he lost out on a free agent to say, the Packers, and decided to punish them by giving teams info from their game with Green Bay last year? Something tells me everybody would be calling for a league banishment.

PackerFanatic · 10-20-2008, 11:36 AM

I am sure this happens a lot more than any of us know, and the only reason it got made into a big story is because it was Brett Favre.

Maple Leafs · 10-20-2008, 12:02 PM

Safe to assume that Millen is the source on this, right?

Can't imagine it being anyone currently employed by either team, and he has the Fox Sports connection.

Abe Sargent · 10-20-2008, 12:53 PM

Logan · 10-20-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I am sure this happens a lot more than any of us know, and the only reason it got made into a big story is because it was Brett Favre.

Exactly. I was watching a game last week where the announcers were talking about some coaches working together to figure out certain offenses (it may have been in reference to the wildcat). I wasn't surprised at all.

BishopMVP · 10-21-2008, 12:50 AM

I just want to throw my support behind flere here. That may be my favorite NFLiP.

Crim · 10-21-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Favre denies this, by the way.

Amazing that so few people care though. What if Bellichick was helping teams beat the Jets? Would that be different just because they're in the same division? What if he lost out on a free agent to say, the Packers, and decided to punish them by giving teams info from their game with Green Bay last year? Something tells me everybody would be calling for a league banishment.

He would not accept a banishment.

Matthean · 10-21-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Safe to assume that Millen is the source on this, right?

Can't imagine it being anyone currently employed by either team, and he has the Fox Sports connection.

The story goes that Favre called Millen to set up a hunting trip and later called back for more info and such when he asked who the Lions were playing that week. Millen told him the Packers and then it went from there. The guy who broke the story was on Rome and he flat out swears the story is true and he wouldn't have gone public with it unless he knew it was 100% true. He even said another team knew about this. Nobody out of Detroit is denying this story.

And of course Favre is going to deny it happened.

DeToxRox · 10-21-2008, 09:41 PM

Rod Marinelli's repeated no comments is telling. Plus Woodson coming out saying it wouldn't shock him doesn't help.

Maple Leafs · 10-21-2008, 09:47 PM

The story about ESPN ordering its talent not to talk about the story on air is sort of odd.

BishopMVP · 10-21-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Safe to assume that Millen is the source on this, right?

Can't imagine it being anyone currently employed by either team, and he has the Fox Sports connection.

Why couldn't it be Favre himself? He hasn't been the main NFL story in like 2 weeks to a month now. Even throwing 6 TD's got overshadowed by Anquan Boldin's injury.

Maple Leafs · 10-22-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Why couldn't it be Favre himself?

But that makes no sense. Favre later denied the story, so if he was the source that would mean he was playing both sides and not making up his mind about...

Hm. OK, you might be on to something.

molson · 10-22-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

[patsfanwithavictimcomplex]
They were waiting for Matt Walsh to confirm it.
[/patsfanwithavictimcomplex]

LOL.

It is too easy to fall into that complex when you hear people saying, "oh, everyone does it", as if that's suddenly a valid defense.

Though, I don't know what the NFL rulebook has to say about this exactly.

Desnudo · 10-22-2008, 03:40 PM

This could really mar the Jets 8-8 season, having played with a cheater at QB.

A-Husker-4-Life · 10-22-2008, 04:23 PM

Ohhh God, live the man alone. Who cares if he did tell them, it detroit... This is a big nothing..

10-19-2008, 11:33 AM	#2
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I kind of feel like it's a non-story. It's certainly not a three "Wow." worthy story. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-19-2008, 11:45 AM	#6
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Well to be fair, Brett asked them to trade him to Minnesota so he could compete against them. He said if they didn't think he was good enough to play anymore, than let him play against them. And let's be real here, if the Packers coaching staff hasn't improved so much that the inside knowledge that he had to glean made them lose, well, then...oh well. It's no different than when a guy gets traded in midseason and helps his new team beat his old team if they play each other. There is only so much you can know and adjust to...and it's why spying is effective. Non-story, really. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

10-19-2008, 05:29 PM	#13
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10-19-2008, 06:55 PM	#17
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10-19-2008, 11:35 AM	#4
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Well at least he didn't use exclamation marks

10-19-2008, 11:37 AM	#5
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Nobody can stop greg jennings anyways.

10-19-2008, 11:54 AM	#7
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	No it's not the same as when a guy helps his new team beat his old team. If the Jets were playing the Packers and Favre did that it wouldn't be an issue. But to call the Lions and help them beat the Packers while he's playing for the Jets is far worse than what Bellichick did. Favre has tainted his legacy. He said he doesn't care what his legacy is but it's obvious he does because he wants the Packers to fail without him. The media will either spin this as a positive for Favre or give it limited coverage to protect their golden boy so it probably will end up being a non story.

10-19-2008, 12:01 PM	#8
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Packer fans are already asking why Favre would throw all of us including his old teammates under the bus like this. We understand that he's angry at Thompson and McCarthy but can't believe that he's been reduced to this. I hope it's not true.

10-19-2008, 02:08 PM	#10
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	After how much of a douche Brett has been this whole past year would this really surprise anyone?

10-19-2008, 04:46 PM	#11
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	Im sorta with Chubby on this one. Just about everything he has done this year leaves me asking why he has to act like such a little bitch. They didnt force him to retire, just let it go man.

10-19-2008, 06:03 PM	#15
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	He should've given pointers to Peyton Manning.

10-20-2008, 10:34 AM	#19
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I think Tatum Bell is calling people and telling them how to beat the Lions. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

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10-20-2008, 11:31 AM	#22
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Over-blown. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

10-20-2008, 11:33 AM	#23
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Favre denies this, by the way. Amazing that so few people care though. What if Bellichick was helping teams beat the Jets? Would that be different just because they're in the same division? What if he lost out on a free agent to say, the Packers, and decided to punish them by giving teams info from their game with Green Bay last year? Something tells me everybody would be calling for a league banishment. Last edited by molson : 10-20-2008 at 11:34 AM.

10-20-2008, 11:36 AM	#24
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10-20-2008, 12:02 PM	#25
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Safe to assume that Millen is the source on this, right? Can't imagine it being anyone currently employed by either team, and he has the Fox Sports connection. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I just want to throw my support behind flere here. That may be my favorite NFLiP.

10-21-2008, 09:41 PM	#31
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Rod Marinelli's repeated no comments is telling. Plus Woodson coming out saying it wouldn't shock him doesn't help.

10-21-2008, 09:47 PM	#32
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	The story about ESPN ordering its talent not to talk about the story on air is sort of odd. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

10-22-2008, 03:40 PM	#36
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	This could really mar the Jets 8-8 season, having played with a cheater at QB.

10-22-2008, 04:23 PM	#37
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