What new text-based football game do you think we'll see first?

[Ben E Lou]

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[Schmidty]

Wolverine Studios puts out games fast, so that'll probably be the one.

Other than TCY2, the one I'd like to see the most, is Bowl Bound Pro Football.

[Raiders Army]

Na da. It'll be slim pickings this year...but we did get a card game!

[miked]

BBPF looks dead.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by miked

BBPF looks dead.

Really? That's unfortunate.

[Ben E Lou]

If forum activity is any gauge, then miked has a point. It has been over five weeks since anything was posted there...

Bowl Bound Pro Football Suggestions - Grey Dog Software

[Ben E Lou]

Both of these polls have a purpose, fyi. I'm doing an article next week, and one thing that I intend to talk about is the lack of any buzz on football sims compared to several months ago when some were discussing the possibility of there being four new football games this fall.

[miked]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

If forum activity is any gauge, then miked has a point. It has been over five weeks since anything was posted there...

Bowl Bound Pro Football Suggestions - Grey Dog Software

Yeah, if the game is alive and doing well, Arlie needs lots of help getting the word out. I thought this was supposed to be close, so I started checking in a few months ago and just saw a flatline forum. Sad, I like Arlie's games but it would appear that DDS may have the next game.

[Raiders Army]

I had heard about DDS, but not BBPF.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Both of these polls have a purpose, fyi. I'm doing an article next week, and one thing that I intend to talk about is the lack of any buzz on football sims compared to several months ago when some were discussing the possibility of there being four new football games this fall.

Can I get a shout out in the article to my Mom, in Spokane? Thanks.

[st.cronin]

I don't think that BBPF is dead.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by miked

BBPF looks dead.

I hope that isn't the case, but I don't really frequent the forums at GreyDog that much. I don't really care too much for the type of other games that have (not big into wrestling or anything). I'm a big fan of BBCF though, and am in multiple leagues where still to this day when an occasional issue comes up, Arlie immediately gets the problem figured out or assists in the issue (including a case in one of my leagues just last week that he assisted with at 6 or 7pm with no notice).

I have no idea if/when BBPF is coming out or what features it is supposedly going to have or if it is supposed to be good, but after all of the great support Arlie has provided and the quality of BBCF, I would easily buy it immediately without thinking. (similar to how I used to feel about OOTP after ootp 2 or 3 oddly enough)

[JediKooter]

I heard there's going to be a text based Maximum Football soon.

[molson]

It's pretty sad that "We will not see a new football title released in 2008." is even a possibility, let alone tied for the lead at this point.

Marketing is not a strong suit of these companies. Training camps have started and we have no idea what to expect. Maybe the genre is just in decline.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I don't think that BBPF is dead.

If it is, I'd really like to know what he's been doing down there in his office.



Edit to add - I have no idea how close/far he is, I really only do the books now.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

If it is, I'd really like to know what he's been doing down there in his office.

He's read the thread about Charles Haley and it gave him certain ideas....

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

If it is, I'd really like to know what he's been doing down there in his office.

Porn.

Oh, you meant other than the obvious?

[RedKingGold]

I think Draft Day Football will be out the door first (just b/c of the quick turnaround in Wolverine Studios games).

However, I also think that a Solecismic entry (likely FOF7 or FOF6.999) will be out by late November.

[Comey]

I don't want to speak for Gary, but I know that Wolverine is really taking its time with this game. Add that, with the other sports, the "quick turnaround" was in part because they had a platform to work with.

To that end, I hope that those who are thinking Gary and Tim are going to spit out a game just like that aren't expecting as such.

[Comey]

I also don't believe that Arlie has shelved BBPF whatsoever. It would have been nice if he was able to keep up with the blogs, or if people at GreyDog had kept up with the discussion that a few of us had started when he announced some things back in April, but I also know life stuff gets in the way, and making sure the game is down right has to take precedent.

Still, I do wish he was able. It would help get the thoughts of the BBCF/BBPF dynasties going. Then it would help get thoughts of a DDSCF/DDSPF dynasty going.

Then I'd likely pass out from euphoria.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Porn.

Oh, you meant other than the obvious?

That's the oddest looking porn I've ever seen...

[Calis]

I have never heard of EBM Sports Football..or EBM at all for that matter. Are these people we should know or are they new to the field? I checked their site real quick but there's almost no information on it.

[fantom1979]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

That's the oddest looking porn I've ever seen...

There is something great about text based porn

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Calis

I have never heard of EBM Sports Football..or EBM at all for that matter. Are these people we should know or are they new to the field? I checked their site real quick but there's almost no information on it.

I believe that is VPI's new project, and it is the one I'm the most excited about at the moment.

[Comey]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I believe that is VPI's new project, and it is the one I'm the most excited about at the moment.

Why?

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Comey

Why?

He's done some amazing work in the past on other things, and he is a new voice in the genre.

[Comey]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

He's done some amazing work in the past on other things, and he is a new voice in the genre.

Okay, excellent. I was eating a hamburger that was kind of messy, so "why" was about all I could get out. I didn't want to forget about it, so I just threw it out there.

Are there any features that you're excited about? Or just that he's putting it out there?

[RomaGoth]

The new title I would like to see is the "Brett Favre: Will I play or won't I play this year" Football 2005-2011.

On a serious note, I do have a suspicion that the genre is in decline due to an overall higher cost of living and the lack of promotions most of these games get.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

That's the oddest looking porn I've ever seen...

That's just the camouflage.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by RomaGoth

The new title I would like to see is the "Brett Favre: Will I play or won't I play this year" Football 2005-2011.

Strangely enough, the game time on this title is about a month, but it feels like it lasts forever.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Comey

Okay, excellent. I was eating a hamburger that was kind of messy, so "why" was about all I could get out. I didn't want to forget about it, so I just threw it out there.

Are there any features that you're excited about? Or just that he's putting it out there?

Right now, there isn't any particular feature that I'm excited about. I just have a good feeling that he will produce a great game.

[Capital]

It's been 2 years since a release from solecismic so I would expect to see one this year. Leaning pro football but the college offering is possible.

[Buccaneer]

If I was around to vote, I would definitely want to see EBM's (Todd's) game. The rest I don't care about - Todd is the only one whose design of a football sim matches what I would want for SP. So not knowing what will come out first, I will be content to wait for Todd's game whenever.

[MJ4H]

I don't care about any of them until I get a 2d display like FM has.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

If I was around to vote, I would definitely want to see EBM's (Todd's) game. The rest I don't care about - Todd is the only one whose design of a football sim matches what I would want for SP. So not knowing what will come out first, I will be content to wait for Todd's game whenever.

I hope he finds the time to continue this, seems very, very promising.

[Ben E Lou]

I just realized that I completely forgot about Football Mogul.

And not only did I forget about it, but no one bothered to mention it. I guess that pretty much sums it up. Does anyone here play it?

[Ben E Lou]

Dola:

Specifically I was wondering if anyone played a fairly recent version.

[JPhillips]

I picked up FM07 last year for 3.99 at Big Lots. It was a disaster.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I picked up FM07 last year for 3.99 at Big Lots. It was a disaster.

lol

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I just realized that I completely forgot about Football Mogul.

And not only did I forget about it, but no one bothered to mention it. I guess that pretty much sums it up. Does anyone here play it?

I've never ever seen anybody say something good about this game. I think it's probably a good one to have forgotten.

[astrosfan64]

BBPF is far from scrapped and he is working on the game.

[Ben E Lou]

Thanks for your participation and comments. The OS article is finished (pending final editing), and will be published this week.

[Arles]

Yeah, BBPF's still under development. My issue isn't so much that I need a ton of feedback, I just need more time to get the design I have mapped out into fruition. Things have been going very well in my "real" job, and while that's good for me in some ways, it's cutting a bit into my dev time. I also have made spending time with my (soon to be) 3-year old a major priority.

That said, I am plugging along and will get people updates when I think the time is right. While that may frustrate some and lead to a "lack of buzz", my concern right now is just on making a quality pro football game. Once I get that completed, I think the other stuff will start to fall into place.

[Ben E Lou]

Article is up. There's nothing terribly new from what was said in the two poll threads (other than my personal predictions), but if you want to take it look, it's at the front page:

Operation Sports - Madden 09 - NCAA Football 09 - FIFA 09 – Tiger Woods PGA Tour – NBA 2K9

[Mr. Olympia]

I would have bet the farm that we would have a new football text sim by labor day this year.

[Ben E Lou]

Direct-link to the OS article

Based on comments by Clay at Sports Mogul, it appears that Football Mogul will be released at some point this week. Based on past history, there's not much reason to believe that said release will be particularly playable.

[Ben E Lou]

Football Mogul 2009 Release Date Announced. - Operation Sports

[Vegas Vic]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Based on comments by Clay at Sports Mogul, it appears that Football Mogul will be released at some point this week. Based on past history, there's not much reason to believe that said release will be particularly playable.

Is this a single player only game, or does it have multi-player capability?

[Ben E Lou]

I believe it's single player only, but I'm not certain.

Features

• Ratings for over 2200 players
• Updated career stats for every player
• Includes rookies from the 2008 draft
• NFL schedule for the 2008-2009 season
• Play-by-play describes each play as it happens
• Realistic player development and aging
• Play up to 100 seasons into the future
• Detailed playbook editor
• Create your own 'Football Mogul Encyclopedia'
• and more...

New Features

• Detailed playbook editor (you can even redesign plays during a game)
• Improved roster AI
• Improved playcalling AI
• 60% Faster Simulation

[Ben E Lou]

Let me rephrase: the last version I played around with ('07) was SP only. I don't see anything in the feature sets from '08 or '09 to indicate that it was added.