Who will get the 1st pick overall in 2009?

RendeR · 07-27-2008, 12:55 AM

Thread title is the question, who will it be? The jets are looking pretty terrible right now, the Raiders have definitely inproved some from last year so I think they're safe this time round. The Ravens have huge question marks everywhere but in the secondary. The team a lot of magazines and online polls have tabbed is a surprise to me though: The Kansas City Chiefs.

Are they really that bad?

Poll to ome, make your vote and tell us why you think so!!

TCY Junkie · 07-27-2008, 01:09 AM

The patriots, they will come up with some videos of the commissioner stealing street signs.

Or Houston because I get to watch every game if I want to.

illinifan999 · 07-27-2008, 01:13 AM

Surprised the Dolphins didn't make the list.

Glengoyne · 07-27-2008, 01:15 AM

Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.

Greyroofoo · 07-27-2008, 01:17 AM

I'm personally rooting for New England

TCY Junkie · 07-27-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.

I knew something was missing.

Lathum · 07-27-2008, 01:42 AM

I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)

Spree · 07-27-2008, 02:41 AM

Count me in for the Patriots... it's interesting how they've gone from being nice-guys to "heels," basically in the past 12 months, and a last-place finish would only complete the process, after which they can go back to being a pitiful franchise that everyone roots for, like the Cubs.

Chief Rum · 07-27-2008, 03:37 AM

I feel pretty comfortable saying it won't be any one of these teams. There is almost always a big surprise loser, or someone people thought would be much improved who were pretty bad the previous year.

RendeR · 07-27-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I feel pretty comfortable saying it won't be any one of these teams. There is almost always a big surprise loser, or someone people thought would be much improved who were pretty bad the previous year.

Tell us who it is then Chief =)

I left the raiders off because I really think the addition of McFadden alone will win them a couple more games than say, the Jets or KC. I've got a good feeling for the Dolphins season as well because if you look at last season, while it was pathetic, they were in 2/3 of their games losing by a TD or less in half of them. I think with some solid rookies they could make some wins.

I basically went through and selected what I see "on paper" as the worst team from each division. Just basedon that I'm going with the Jets, but KC really could make it close with their schedule and a general lack of depth overall.

hoopsguy · 07-27-2008, 09:20 AM

I voted Falcons, but the Dolphins should definitely be on the list.

hoopsguy · 07-27-2008, 09:22 AM

Also, if you throw in the annual Mike Brown injury in the first couple of weeks your Chicago Bears would be a reasonable entry. Barring a Matt Forte breakout, they have the worst collection of "skill position" talent in the league. And this is coming from a guy who has been a Rex defender in years past.

Racer · 07-27-2008, 09:34 AM

I voted for the Ravens.

Senator · 07-27-2008, 09:41 AM

I picked Atlanta, as many other did, but the Raiders are a solid choice, despite the high picks. Someone has to call the plays.

SFL Cat · 07-27-2008, 10:03 AM

Atlanta looks poised for it, IMO.

MrDNA · 07-27-2008, 10:09 AM

On paper, it "should" be Atlanta: which is exactly why it probably won't be. Someone else will take a nosedive and ATL will probably pick around 3-5.

mauchow · 07-27-2008, 10:54 AM

Packers.

Bad-example · 07-27-2008, 01:37 PM

Voted for the Red4skins but it is probably just wishful thinking.

MJ4H · 07-27-2008, 01:53 PM

falcons ldo

fantom1979 · 07-27-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)

Michael Turner... but who knows how he will do as the starter.

fantom1979 · 07-27-2008, 02:12 PM

The Jets and Redskins I think will be better than the Dolphins or Eagles in their own divisions.

fantom1979 · 07-27-2008, 02:13 PM

Dola,

I doubt the Lions will be the worst team. They cant do anything right, including being bad enough to get the first overall pick.

Maple Leafs · 07-27-2008, 02:15 PM

What are the odds that the "winner" of this poll makes the playoffs?

3-1? 4-1?

sachmo71 · 07-27-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)

Michael Turner?

I got nuttin.

Dr. Sak · 07-27-2008, 02:54 PM

The Toronto Maple Leafs

thesloppy · 07-27-2008, 03:43 PM

I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.

Kodos · 07-27-2008, 04:03 PM

No Bengals option?

Raiders Army · 07-27-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.

how dare you

VPI97 · 07-27-2008, 04:38 PM

Those are two different questions...

Who will be the worst team in the NFL this season?
The Falcons...by far. They got rid of anyone with talent while blowing their FA money on a backup running back and wasting a #3 pick on a quarterback who may have been around for their second round pick. The franchise is squarely in the shitter.

Who will get the 1st pick overall in 2009?
Not the Falcons. Atlanta is such a shitty franchise that even when they have a pitiful excuse of a team, they'll find a way to screw themselves out of getting the #1 pick by winning two or three games at the end of season.

fantom1979 · 07-27-2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.

Also, they lost their top rusher (not a real loss), and receiver from last year.

ISiddiqui · 07-27-2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97

wasting a #3 pick on a quarterback who may have been around for their second round pick.

You have to be insane to believe that. Ryan wouldn't have survived pick #8, if not pick #6.

SFL Cat · 07-27-2008, 11:37 PM

I'm not seeing Ryan prosper in Hotlanta this season. Hopefully the kid has some mental toughness, cuz if not...his confidence could be shot after the season.

Dola edit...I don't think he rated a #3 pick, but I also don't think he would have been around in the second round either.

ISiddiqui · 07-27-2008, 11:58 PM

I think Ryan won't be playing much until after midseason. Smith seems smart, so I think Redman will be getting a lot of snaps, especially early. If the o-line looks halfway decent, maybe Ryan gets a shot (at least more than 4 games or so).

Tigercat · 07-28-2008, 04:08 AM

It probably won't be the Falcons, just because someone will come out of nowhere to be more awful than most people think. But still, Atlanta is the safest bet by far.

Listening to sports talk radio here the other day and the callers and hosts were talking about 6-10 being the worst the team could end up. I am still not sure what kind of narcotics they were on. Its not hard to imagine the Falcons with only 2-4 wins.

CleBrownsfan · 07-28-2008, 06:40 AM

Had to go with Atlanta - I'll go with a 3-13 record to secure that 1st pick overall

jeheinz72 · 07-28-2008, 08:20 AM

Hell I'm a Dolphins fan and even I think they should at least be on the list. I like the Chiefs for supreme suckitude though.

st.cronin · 07-28-2008, 12:26 PM

The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo.

rkmsuf · 07-28-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo.

herm will have them playing to win the game

nilodor · 07-28-2008, 12:47 PM

I still think the fish have a good shot at it. I actually think they might be worse than last year and have less depth.

Fighter of Foo · 07-28-2008, 01:02 PM

I'm going Lions with the bonus of Matt Millen actually getting fired.

For season win totals, Vegas has Atlanta at 4.5 followed by Miami and KC at 5.5. Oakland, San Fran and Baltimore are at 6. Detroit and St. Louis are the last of the bad teams at 6.5.

RedKingGold · 07-28-2008, 01:16 PM

49er's. I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet, but that's probably how far they've fallen off the radar screen.

I love the team, but I really don't think they're going anywhere. Smith is a bust and Nolan is a much better coordinator than head coach.

ISiddiqui · 07-28-2008, 01:52 PM

Yeah, but Frank Gore is probably good enough for a few wins.

Noop · 07-28-2008, 01:54 PM

I see the Dolphins winning 9 games....

albionmoonlight · 07-28-2008, 02:15 PM

Oakland. It all starts at the top. And Al has lost it. Sad to see, really. That franchise has a great history and tradition (because of him). But the NFL is too competitive for any franchise to do well with an owner like 2008 Al Davis.

Bad-example · 07-28-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I see the Dolphins winning 9 games....

Only if they go undefeated in the preseason.

Coffee Warlord · 07-28-2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.

Luckily, we still get to play the Lions twice a year.

RedKingGold · 07-28-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Yeah, but Frank Gore is probably good enough for a few wins.

Perhaps in theory. However, the OC is Mike Martz, and as good as Gore is, he ain't Faulk.

st.cronin · 09-14-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo.

Looking good so far.

JPhillips · 09-14-2008, 05:14 PM

Looks like a three team race to me, KC, StL, or Cincy.

hoopsguy · 09-14-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Looks like a three team race to me, KC, StL, or Cincy.

Show a little respect for the defending (#1 pick) champs.

View Poll Results: Who will be the worst team in the NFL this season?
New York Jets	4	2.80%
Kansas City Chiefs	32	22.38%
Baltimore Ravens	4	2.80%
Houston Texans	2	1.40%
St. Louis Rams	15	10.49%
Detroit Lions	35	24.48%
Atlanta Falcons	40	27.97%
Washington Redskins	3	2.10%
Other and tell us why!	8	5.59%
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07-27-2008, 01:09 AM	#2
TCY Junkie College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TX	The patriots, they will come up with some videos of the commissioner stealing street signs. Or Houston because I get to watch every game if I want to. __________________ I try to open things I probably have no chance of opening.

07-27-2008, 03:37 AM	#9
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07-27-2008, 09:41 AM	#14
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I picked Atlanta, as many other did, but the Raiders are a solid choice, despite the high picks. Someone has to call the plays. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

07-27-2008, 10:09 AM	#16
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	On paper, it "should" be Atlanta: which is exactly why it probably won't be. Someone else will take a nosedive and ATL will probably pick around 3-5. __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

07-27-2008, 01:13 AM	#3
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Surprised the Dolphins didn't make the list. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

07-27-2008, 01:15 AM	#4
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Never underestimate the incompetence of the Raiders. They will be in the running.

07-27-2008, 01:17 AM	#5
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I'm personally rooting for New England

07-27-2008, 01:42 AM	#7
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I say Atlanta, they probably wont play Ryan much and they didn't add anything since last year( that I know of)

07-27-2008, 02:41 AM	#8
Spree n00b Join Date: Jul 2001	Count me in for the Patriots... it's interesting how they've gone from being nice-guys to "heels," basically in the past 12 months, and a last-place finish would only complete the process, after which they can go back to being a pitiful franchise that everyone roots for, like the Cubs.

07-27-2008, 09:20 AM	#11
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I voted Falcons, but the Dolphins should definitely be on the list.

07-27-2008, 09:22 AM	#12
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Also, if you throw in the annual Mike Brown injury in the first couple of weeks your Chicago Bears would be a reasonable entry. Barring a Matt Forte breakout, they have the worst collection of "skill position" talent in the league. And this is coming from a guy who has been a Rex defender in years past.

07-27-2008, 09:34 AM	#13
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	I voted for the Ravens.

07-27-2008, 10:03 AM	#15
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	Atlanta looks poised for it, IMO.

07-27-2008, 10:54 AM	#17
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Packers.

07-27-2008, 01:37 PM	#18
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	Voted for the Red4skins but it is probably just wishful thinking.

07-27-2008, 01:53 PM	#19
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	falcons ldo __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

07-27-2008, 02:12 PM	#21
fantom1979 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi	The Jets and Redskins I think will be better than the Dolphins or Eagles in their own divisions.

07-27-2008, 02:13 PM	#22
fantom1979 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi	Dola, I doubt the Lions will be the worst team. They cant do anything right, including being bad enough to get the first overall pick.

07-27-2008, 02:15 PM	#23
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07-27-2008, 02:54 PM	#25
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	The Toronto Maple Leafs

07-27-2008, 03:43 PM	#26
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I think it's worth noting that someone named Orton or Grossman will be starting for the Bears, and their entire off-season consisted of signing Kevin Jones, Marty Booker, and a wooden peg-leg for Mike Brown.

07-27-2008, 04:03 PM	#27
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07-27-2008, 04:38 PM	#29
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Those are two different questions... Who will be the worst team in the NFL this season? The Falcons...by far. They got rid of anyone with talent while blowing their FA money on a backup running back and wasting a #3 pick on a quarterback who may have been around for their second round pick. The franchise is squarely in the shitter. Who will get the 1st pick overall in 2009? Not the Falcons. Atlanta is such a shitty franchise that even when they have a pitiful excuse of a team, they'll find a way to screw themselves out of getting the #1 pick by winning two or three games at the end of season. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

07-27-2008, 11:37 PM	#32
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	I'm not seeing Ryan prosper in Hotlanta this season. Hopefully the kid has some mental toughness, cuz if not...his confidence could be shot after the season. Dola edit...I don't think he rated a #3 pick, but I also don't think he would have been around in the second round either. Last edited by SFL Cat : 07-27-2008 at 11:38 PM.

07-27-2008, 11:58 PM	#33
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think Ryan won't be playing much until after midseason. Smith seems smart, so I think Redman will be getting a lot of snaps, especially early. If the o-line looks halfway decent, maybe Ryan gets a shot (at least more than 4 games or so). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-28-2008, 04:08 AM	#34
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	It probably won't be the Falcons, just because someone will come out of nowhere to be more awful than most people think. But still, Atlanta is the safest bet by far. Listening to sports talk radio here the other day and the callers and hosts were talking about 6-10 being the worst the team could end up. I am still not sure what kind of narcotics they were on. Its not hard to imagine the Falcons with only 2-4 wins.

07-28-2008, 06:40 AM	#35
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	Had to go with Atlanta - I'll go with a 3-13 record to secure that 1st pick overall __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

07-28-2008, 12:26 PM	#37
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	The Chiefs have a pretty good shot at 0-16, imo. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-28-2008, 12:47 PM	#39
nilodor College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: calgary, AB	I still think the fish have a good shot at it. I actually think they might be worse than last year and have less depth.

07-28-2008, 01:02 PM	#40
Fighter of Foo College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA	I'm going Lions with the bonus of Matt Millen actually getting fired. For season win totals, Vegas has Atlanta at 4.5 followed by Miami and KC at 5.5. Oakland, San Fran and Baltimore are at 6. Detroit and St. Louis are the last of the bad teams at 6.5. Last edited by Fighter of Foo : 07-28-2008 at 01:07 PM.

07-28-2008, 01:16 PM	#41
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	49er's. I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet, but that's probably how far they've fallen off the radar screen. I love the team, but I really don't think they're going anywhere. Smith is a bust and Nolan is a much better coordinator than head coach. Last edited by RedKingGold : 07-28-2008 at 01:16 PM.

07-28-2008, 01:52 PM	#42
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, but Frank Gore is probably good enough for a few wins. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-28-2008, 01:54 PM	#43
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I see the Dolphins winning 9 games.... __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

07-28-2008, 02:15 PM	#44
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Oakland. It all starts at the top. And Al has lost it. Sad to see, really. That franchise has a great history and tradition (because of him). But the NFL is too competitive for any franchise to do well with an owner like 2008 Al Davis. Last edited by albionmoonlight : 07-28-2008 at 02:20 PM.