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Old 03-18-2003, 09:34 PM   #1
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Exclamation Official FOFC Hattrick Rankings for week 18.14

Here it is guys!!!
See where your Hattrick team ranks!!!

Some explanations:
- NSI points is the sum of all your position ratings from the last league game of the said team, with midfield counting as triple its value
- ratings are counted with the base value set at disastrous = 1, wretched = 2, and so on.
- TW stands for "This Week"
- LW stand for "Last Week" (not used now, since this is the first week of the rankings)
- "+/-" will be used to denote movement in either the rank or the number of points
- I intent on updating the rankings after every week of the regular season since the points are based on league games. This means the next update will be only after the first week of next season (which will be name week 19.01)

That's about it, without further ado, HERE THEY ARE!!!

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FOFC Rankings NSI 3wks mov avg TW Team team id FOFC member Country Series TW LW MOVE BEST TW LW +/- BEST 1 Screamin' Seamen 70638 dataking USA IV.49 1 1 ------ 1 62.8 61.3 + 1.5 62.8 2 Gargoyles 70991 Ravenhawk USA IV.19 2 2 ------ 2 60.8 60.5 + 0.3 60.8 3 Slumlords 8293 winking pirate USA IV.8 3 3 ------ 3 54.7 56.3 - 1.7 56.3 4 North County Raiders 70913 Ardent Enthusiast USA IV.43 4 5 up 1 4 54.3 52.3 + 2.0 54.3 5 Long Island Pride 70899 NY FAN USA V.90 5 7 up 2 5 52.8 50.5 + 2.3 52.8 6 MoKan Mighty Bastards 70338 Meanstrosity USA V.20 6 4 down 2 4 52.7 52.8 - 0.2 52.8 7 Calibiri 8598 Daedalus USA IV.46 7 6 down 1 6 52.5 52.2 + 0.3 52.5 8 NE Oklahoma Sidekicks 71068 vexroid USA V.111 8 8 ------ 8 50.2 48.8 + 1.3 50.2 9 Aardvarks 70769 Aylmar USA V.74 9 13 up 4 9 49.2 45.5 + 3.7 49.2 10 Ruskies 70282 The_herd USA V.13 10 11 up 1 10 48.3 47.2 + 1.2 48.3 11 Cedar Pond Horned Toads 70953 HornedFrog Purple USA V.97 11 13 up 2 11 47.8 45.5 + 2.3 47.8 12 Morrisville Morrisvillians 70926 NevStar USA V.93 12 8 down 4 8 47.2 48.8 - 1.7 48.8 13 Galesburg Avengers 70481 Coffee Warlord USA V.38 13 12 down 1 12 47.0 47.0 ----- 47.0 13 Bees 70510 ausonny USA V.41 13 10 down 3 10 47.0 47.5 - 0.5 47.5 15 Hamas Mad Bombers 71389 astralhaze USA V.151 15 17 up 2 15 46.0 43.5 + 2.5 46.0 15 Houston Hippopotami 8574 sterlingice USA V.62 15 19 up 4 15 46.0 42.5 + 3.5 46.0 17 Arkham Avengers 72049 Nylarlahotep USA V.234 17 26 up 9 17 45.8 41.3 + 4.5 45.8 18 Aviators 8150 damnMikeBrown USA IV.25 18 16 down 2 16 45.5 44.0 + 1.5 45.5 19 Alf Trickers 47201 Alf France IV.40 19 23 up 4 19 44.8 41.7 + 3.2 44.8 20 Blade Bombers 71724 Blade6119 USA V.193 20 18 down 2 18 44.0 42.8 + 1.2 44.0 21 FC Hartford 70296 samifan24 USA V.14 21 15 down 6 15 43.8 45.2 - 1.3 45.2 22 Bull Dogs 8421 Eilim USA V.1 22 32 up 10 22 43.0 40.0 + 3.0 43.0 23 Midwest Ice Storm FC 70500 Pilotman USA V.40 23 32 up 9 23 42.7 40.0 + 2.7 42.7 24 goldurnears 72020 robbgmaier USA V.230 24 26 up 2 24 42.5 41.3 + 1.2 42.5 24 Cowtown FC 70689 Mrushh USA V.64 24 21 down 3 21 42.5 42.0 + 0.5 42.5 26 Scranton Slime 71299 TredWel USA V.140 26 24 down 2 24 42.3 41.5 + 0.8 42.3 27 Negative Waves 8697 moriarty USA V.198 27 24 down 3 24 41.8 41.5 + 0.3 41.8 28 Louisiana Cyclones 72080 Doug5984 USA V.237 28 48 up 20 28 41.7 37.0 + 4.7 41.7 28 Concord Assassins 72162 BishopMVP USA V.248 28 40 up 12 28 41.7 39.0 + 2.7 41.7 30 Bbors 29830 bbor Canada IV.23 30 20 down 10 20 41.5 42.2 - 0.7 42.2 30 Chesapeake Cheapshots 71318 Quiksand USA V.142 30 28 down 2 28 41.5 41.2 + 0.3 41.5 30 Oklahoma City Rednecks 70559 Airhog USA V.47 30 22 down 8 22 41.5 41.8 - 0.3 41.8 33 Boulder Blaze 71406 Bertogarce USA V.153 33 35 up 2 33 41.0 39.7 + 1.3 41.0 33 booger ballers 8223 fflix USA V.158 33 33 41.0 41.0 33 Maniacal Misfitz 72203 Havok USA V.253 33 33 41.0 41.0 36 Pintendre Pittbulls 108238 FrogMan Canada IV.38 36 35 down 1 35 40.8 39.7 + 1.2 40.8 37 Fairfax Admirals 71139 awm9a USA V.120 37 62 up 25 37 40.7 29.5 + 11.2 40.7 37 White Sox Pride 71519 Aesyrqwe USA V.167 37 32 down 5 32 40.7 40.0 + 0.7 40.7 37 West Henrietta FC 70601 bigjdotcom01 USA V.53 37 31 down 6 31 40.7 40.5 + 0.2 40.7 37 Shaw_Shanksters 70848 Superman=#54 USA V.83 37 29 down 8 29 40.7 40.8 - 0.2 40.8 41 Michigan Moon Shine 70376 DeToxRoxDVHStyle USA V.24 41 38 down 3 38 40.5 39.3 + 1.2 40.5 42 Gasmasters 71955 Fonzie USA V.222 42 30 down 12 30 40.3 40.7 - 0.3 40.7 43 S. Boston Hooligans 71008 McSweeny USA V.103 43 51 up 8 43 40.0 36.0 + 4.0 40.0 43 High Tops 8146 Professor58 USA V.28 43 44 up 1 43 40.0 38.0 + 2.0 40.0 45 Rochester Roosters 71938 dacman USA V.220 45 37 down 8 37 39.3 39.5 - 0.2 39.5 46 G-Vegas FC 71158 Easy Mac USA V.122 46 46 ------ 46 39.0 37.8 + 1.2 39.0 47 The Big Show 71475 ramfan USA V.162 47 38 down 9 38 38.3 39.3 - 1.0 39.3 48 Little Green Monsters 71368 SplitPersonality1 USA V.148 48 42 down 6 42 38.2 38.3 - 0.2 38.3 49 Goldfish 72717 MikeVic Canada IV.61 49 49 38.0 38.0 50 Fighting Crawfish 70798 The Afoci USA V.77 50 42 down 8 42 37.8 38.3 - 0.5 38.3 51 Spring Grove Fighting Eagles 72093 illifan999 USA V.179 51 47 down 4 47 37.7 37.2 + 0.5 37.7 52 High Rollers 71377 AnalBumCover USA V.150 52 48 down 4 48 37.5 37.0 + 0.5 37.5 52 Lakeville Rovers 8263 patpsycho USA V.49 52 50 down 2 50 37.5 36.8 + 0.7 37.5 54 Qwakers 71297 Qwikshot USA V.140 54 54 ------ 54 37.3 35.5 + 1.8 37.3 54 Newton Rams 71010 GrantDawg USA V.104 54 44 down 10 44 37.3 38.0 - 0.7 38.0 56 IFK Bananskruv 103399 3ric Sverige VII.842 56 52 down 4 52 37.0 35.7 + 1.3 37.0 57 Complex Spikes 72176 Masked USA V.249 57 65 up 8 57 36.0 26.0 + 10.0 36.0 57 Else United 72189 rexallsc USA V.251 57 57 36.0 36.0 59 Toledo Drunkards 8295 Rich1033 USA V.21 59 41 down 18 41 35.8 38.7 - 2.8 38.7 60 Lancre Wowhawks 57183 Katon England VI.135 60 55 down 5 55 35.7 35.3 + 0.3 35.7 61 Flying Condors 71540 condors USA IV.36 61 52 down 9 52 34.5 35.7 - 1.2 35.7 62 Reign 71332 HeavyReign USA IV.21 62 56 down 6 56 34.3 33.7 + 0.7 34.3 63 Isla Vista Vandals 70384 Vince USA V.25 63 61 down 2 61 34.0 30.0 + 4.0 34.0 64 Manchester Silver Bullets 70827 Sublime USA V.81 64 58 down 6 58 33.0 33.0 ----- 33.0 65 Averill Park Mercury 8489 RPI-Fan USA IV.8 65 60 down 5 60 32.3 31.3 + 1.0 32.3 65 Eugene Emeralds 8315 JHandley USA V.251 65 64 down 1 64 32.3 27.0 + 5.3 32.3 67 Rio Grandes 8688 Radii USA V.55 67 63 down 4 63 32.2 28.3 + 3.8 32.2 68 Slithy Toves 8505 Brillig USA IV.35 68 68 32.0 32.0 69 Racoons 8546 Barkeep49 USA IV.51 69 68 down 1 68 31.8 20.5 + 11.3 31.8 70 Vileurban FC 47059 jfbbis France IV.22 70 57 down 13 57 30.8 33.5 - 2.7 33.5 71 Baltimore Blast 71773 Ravenhawk USA V.199 71 67 down 4 67 29.2 22.3 + 6.8 29.2 72 North Plainfield Plague 70778 cthomer5000 USA IV.27 72 72 29.0 29.0 73 Barrow UFC 8471 Tekneek USA V.139 73 59 down 14 59 28.2 31.5 - 3.3 31.5 74 Tommyhawks 70504 MrBug 708 USA V.40 74 66 down 8 66 26.5 25.3 + 1.2 26.5 75 ThunderThighs 71529 Neuqua USA V.169 75 69 down 6 69 24.3 18.8 + 5.5 24.3 76 Shadow Dragons 70513 Astott USA V.42 76 76 24.0 24.0 77 Los Alamitos Fury 72228 heybrad USA V.256 77 77 22.0 22.0 NR Milford Money 71874 Shorty3281 USA V.212 NR 78

I know the format leaves much to be desired, but I really wanted to post something tonight. As you can see, it's Dataking's Screamin' Seamen up top, followed by Ravenhawk's Gargoyles, with the top 3 closed by Ardent Enthusiast's North County Raiders.

So here they are your comments are welcome. Any surprises to you Hattrick gurus?

Later, FrogMan.


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Old 03-18-2003, 09:42 PM   #2
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Tied for 20th.....hmmm I guess I have some improving to do. That looks outstanding Frogman, Thank You!!!
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:45 PM   #3
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Two things I forgot to mention:
(1) Milford Money wasn't included in this week's rankings since he got his team after the league game was played so it was the bot team that played his game.

(2) I'm only human, mistakes can happen. If you think your team has been wrongly rated, simply PM me and I'll take a look at it.

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Old 03-18-2003, 09:45 PM   #4
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I am not a hattrick guru....but I am very (pleasantly) suprised my team was rated # 24....I thought I was going to be ranked much lower than that....and I don't think it is at all a suprise that Dataking is rated # 1

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Old 03-18-2003, 09:54 PM   #5
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is there a way you can show the 'point total?' I'd like to know how dominating a lead DK has on everyone, or how far someone is from the person in front of them, etc...

is that possible?

great work!
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:56 PM   #6
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dola. nevermind... there it is! I'm blind and stupid.
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:02 PM   #7
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in the future, are you going to do the ranking based only on the previous week or are you going to have some sort of running average (last 3 games, with last weighted more, etc)?
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:09 PM   #8
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Very interesting results. The top 5 are no surprise to me. I was also pleasantly surprised to find my team ranked #26, but I've fought long and hard to get my team from the sellar and to finish with a decent 20-29 GF/GA ratio for the season. I have a lot of work to do and I like the fact that we can now easily see where we stack up in terms of fellow FOFC teams. Like I said in the other thread, this could be a huge help when it comes to developing the 3rd FOFC Cup!
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:18 PM   #9
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wow....i knew i had a fairly good team, but in my last game i played the best team in the league and they pretty much schooled me...very happy with tied for 18!!!
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:19 PM   #10
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Wow, tenth after only playing a month. I bet that drops next season since I MOTS'ed and my midfield will go back to it's crappy ways. Thanks Frogman.
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:43 PM   #11
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wooohoo! not even close to last!
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:52 PM   #12
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(2) I'm only human, mistakes can happen. If you think your team has been wrongly rated, simply PM me and I'll take a look at it.

Dude, you did an awesome job. Mucho thanks for the work you've put in.

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Old 03-18-2003, 10:59 PM   #13
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1) KICKASS work. Now I have even more things driving me to win at Hattrick!

2) 16th on the NevStar Power Ratings, eh. Not bad. I'll crack the top 10 by midseason. This I vow.
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:05 PM   #14
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Wow, if I would have just had a "weak" midfield, I would have been 4th. 9th isn't too bad though seeing as how I've only been playing since Dec. 30th.
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:07 PM   #15
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Dola

Something you could add would be a team's all-time high NSI rating.

This is awesome, thanks for all the hard work!
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:13 PM   #16
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Double Dola

How about puting the FOFC user by the team, i.e. NE Oklahoma Sidekicks (vexroid)
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:19 PM   #17
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I'm 50th Not bad for playing one game. lol
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:22 PM   #18
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This is a really good tool to tell a team when they are ready for Div. IV play.
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:23 AM   #19
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I like it even better now that I've seen it.

Excellent stuff FrogMan.
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:29 AM   #20
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Cool rankings!

"Darn the luck, Darn" (anyone know the cartoon quote?)
I would have been top 10 if not for Starks's absence. Still, I'm not going to complain. It'd be cool to see a composite index based not only on NSI but running rankings, some minor component for friendlies (depth of organization), and the division you are in (division difficulty, win/loss, points, differential). Then again, that's hours more work than any of us should put into something like that.

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Old 03-19-2003, 04:28 AM   #21
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I'm really shocked to be in the top 15. My top players are only rated passable at best. I have only 1 solid rating (scorer). 80% of my team is only inadequate...
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Old 03-19-2003, 06:57 AM   #22
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Hey guys,
Thanks for all the very good comments, they're appreciated but I had fun designing a way to do these. Also, being the competitive guy that I am, I also wanted to see where my Pittbulls stood in the group. 32nd ain't all bad considering week 18.14 was only my third regular season league game...

About suggestions, comments, request, let's see what we got here...

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in the future, are you going to do the ranking based only on the previous week or are you going to have some sort of running average (last 3 games, with last weighted more, etc)?


I was thinking about that, especially the fact that one bad week (an injured inner middie for example) could drop you hard in the rankings. What's the general train of thought on this? Three weeks with a 3-2-1 weight seems feasable... On the other hand, having depth on your hand should prevent you from dropping too much.

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Dola

Something you could add would be a team's all-time high NSI rating.


This is a good idea. I'll work on adding it in the future.

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Double Dola

How about puting the FOFC user by the team, i.e. NE Oklahoma Sidekicks (vexroid)


This was originally in my intentions. I simply ran out of time last night to do a good formatting. Even I, after processing 79 (yep we got 79 teams now!!! WOOHOO!!!) I can't always who is who from only the team name...

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It'd be cool to see a composite index based not only on NSI but running rankings, some minor component for friendlies (depth of organization), and the division you are in (division difficulty, win/loss, points, differential). Then again, that's hours more work than any of us should put into something like that.


Could definitely be cool but would demand an amazing load of extra work compared to what it takes to make the rankings the way they are now. To explain myself, the way I do the rankings is I made a simple excel spreadsheet in which I copy/paste the ratings from every team's last game. This means I have to hunt for each and every of the 79 teams. But teh easy part is I only take their last game and copy their team ratings without any analysis. Going for running rankings, friendlys, division, etc, would ask somebody to punch in a bit more work...

Also my train of thoughts was that it doesn't really mather which division you are in since the rankings are based on how your team performed, independently from how the other teams around you perform. The rankings is a picture of how your team's multiple parts add up. Maybe somebody could tell me if I'm wrong...

Glad you all seem to appreciate the work.
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Old 03-19-2003, 06:58 AM   #23
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I'm really shocked to be in the top 15. My top players are only rated passable at best. I have only 1 solid rating (scorer). 80% of my team is only inadequate...


Only thing I could say is they play well together

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Old 03-19-2003, 08:41 AM   #24
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Woo hoo! I have 77 ranking points, I'm awes... err... wait.... Oh... Nevermind.

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Old 03-19-2003, 09:02 AM   #25
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Froggy, if I've got some time at work, I'm going to set you up some webscripts to handle this. Basically, once the intitial team list is set up, all you'll have to do is select a team and pop in their NevStar Index. It'll do all the calculations for ya after that.
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:09 AM   #26
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Froggy, if I've got some time at work, I'm going to set you up some webscripts to handle this. Basically, once the intitial team list is set up, all you'll have to do is select a team and pop in their NevStar Index. It'll do all the calculations for ya after that.


What do you mean? Would it be able to hunt the team's ratings on the Hattrick website?

Cause I got the list set up nicely on my excel spreadsheet (Have I told you, Excel is my friend ) and all I have to do is copy/paste every team's last game rating. That's the long part of it although it only took me about an hour yesterday and taht hour included drying my sons hair after his bath and a few other disturbances (ah them kids )

Once I've copied the ratings (as text) in the excel spreadsheet I've set up a tiny macro that adds the values and then writes the team name and NSI points at the end of the master list for the week. I'm no programmer but it works for now...

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Old 03-19-2003, 09:19 AM   #27
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Ahhhh. Might not be worth it then until I actually get it to dig the match ratings out. But that actually isn't that big of deal either.

I'll see what I can do about making life easier for you. (Hell, I might be able to totally automate it.)
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:39 AM   #28
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Coffee Warlord:

Be careful about doing this. From the hattrick rules:

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It's totally forbidden to scan any page at www.hattrick.org without permisson from HT-teamet (mail: [email protected] if you want permission).

Apparently, the developers aren't very liberal in granting permission. I emailed them for permission to develop a HAM like application about 3 weeks ago & never got a response. That reminds me, I guess I'll email them again.
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:19 PM   #29
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I love you guys.

Now onto items of a serious note. It looks like this will be my last season in the V.20 Level 5 unless the Level 4 team I play next week has recently acquired an entirely new 2 star roster. I want you all to know that I won't forget any of you. Except for maybe Dataking since he won't continue work on the Kansas Jayhawks dynasty.

So next season, yours truly will be fighting not to be relegated...yay! As my supporters leave me for miserable loss after miserable loss, I will always remember this week's #7 ranking as my golden era in Hattrick.

Now I must get set to face the Midwest Ice Storm FC (currently ranked #20) in today's semi-final of the FOFC Cup II. We have sharpened our cleats and wore silver studded gloves on one hand just as the NE Oklahoma Sidekicks have taught us. We will prevail or injure many Ice Stormers trying. Ah, I'm kidding myself. We'll still probably injure as many Ice Stormers trying even if we do prevail.

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Old 03-19-2003, 03:21 PM   #30
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I just got this reply from the HT-developers regarding my queries to write utility applications. Looks like any automated FOFC rankings list is out of the question for the time being. We'll just have to make FrogMan feel appreciated

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Hi,

We do like when devoted users make useful software. However we don't approve of
_any_ new applications at this part. With one exeption only, applications that
uses the hrf-file. That is the only file that's allowed to download with
external applications. Scanning of other pages is still forbidden. This is due
to the server capacity.

Later on we hope to provide better tools for all developers in order to help you
out. But in the meantime we say no to everything (besides from hrf-using
programs).

When the status changes I will make sure to let you know, since I'm saving up
all mails with similar content.

best regards
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Old 03-19-2003, 03:40 PM   #31
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To explain myself, the way I do the rankings is I made a simple excel spreadsheet in which I copy/paste the ratings from every team's last game. This means I have to hunt for each and every of the 79 teams. But teh easy part is I only take their last game and copy their team ratings without any analysis. Going for running rankings, friendlys, division, etc, would ask somebody to punch in a bit more work...

Just a thought . . . I wonder if it wouldn't be helpful to have a thread where we each keep a post active and copy and paste in our last game's ratings. To keep the thread length from going out of control, we could edit our old post to remove the previous week's and add in the current week's ratings instead. For example, I could have my post in the thread where I post my last game's ratings. When I play my next game and get my ratings, I'll go in to 'edit' to remove the previous ratings and add the new one. If nothing else, this may save FrogMan some hunting work. It wouldn't take any one of us very long and would sure save FrogMan quite a bit of work. Any thoughts, opinions or ideas?

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As an aside, for a slice of humble pie, I played a friendly against a team in the Sveringe D2 (Ib) and here's the ratings I went against:

Wermdö Trappers
Midfield: mythical
Right Side Defence: brilliant
Central Defence: utopian
Left Side Defence: divine
Right Side Attack: titanic
Central Attack: magnificent
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Old 03-19-2003, 03:43 PM   #32
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With one exeption only, applications that uses the hrf-file. That is the only file that's allowed to download with external applications.

I'm not following this too well . . . do they mean that they have a page where the HRF files are accesible and would only be supportive of applications that only grab the HRF files or do they mean they would only be supportive of applications that processes the HRF files (fetching it is your business)?
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Old 03-19-2003, 03:51 PM   #33
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I think daedalus has an excellent idea, regarding us all posting our own team ratings. This would certainly save FrogMan a good deal of work, and would take each of us a negligible amount of time.

Instead of using a seperate thread, we could simply post the ratings within the thread for the ratings themselves, editing the old posts as daedalus mentioned.
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Old 03-19-2003, 04:21 PM   #34
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I'm not following this too well . . . do they mean that they have a page where the HRF files are accesible and would only be supportive of applications that only grab the HRF files or do they mean they would only be supportive of applications that processes the HRF files (fetching it is your business)?


The first, I think. There is a supporter option to download the .hrf file directly. I interpret their message as saying this is the only automated access they would allow to their site.

I agree with us all maintaining our own team ratings.
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Old 03-19-2003, 06:54 PM   #35
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Not too bad, made 12th place with 2 starters hurt.
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Old 03-19-2003, 07:30 PM   #36
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Hey guys, your ideas to have every team copy their match rating could be useful. I think it would be easier to track if we used a new thread for posting the game ratings every week. I mean if every player goes in the main thread and simply edits his old ratings, replacing them with new ones, how would I knwo who had the discipline to do it and who didn't do it??

I/we still have two more weeks before the next league game, so I'll think about a way of doing it that could cut down on my "hunting" time. Also, we would need some kind of deadline, at which I would have to start my hunting. I mean it's almost certain we won't have everybody posting their weekly game ratings, so I wouldn't want to wait until Thursday before I start working on the weekly rankings.

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Old 03-19-2003, 07:32 PM   #37
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I just got this reply from the HT-developers regarding my queries to write utility applications. Looks like any automated FOFC rankings list is out of the question for the time being. We'll just have to make FrogMan feel appreciated


Nev and everyone, you've all already done that, simply by accepting and discussing the ratings like you have so far. I'm happy I could contribute to something I thought was missing from our little Hattrick community

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Old 03-19-2003, 07:43 PM   #38
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Not too bad, made 12th place with 2 starters hurt.


To answer that concern, the thing about having injured player dragging down your team ratings, I'm working on V2 of the rankings where I'll use a weighted moving average. I'm in the process of collecting the information for every team's last for league games. That should give us a weighted rating for last week (weighted average of ratings points from weeks 18.11, 18.12, and 18.13) and a weighted rating for this week (weighted average of ratings points from weeks 18.12, 18.13, and 18.14).

For those curious, an example of the formula for the weighted average for this week would be:

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NSI(18.12)*1 + NSI(18.13)*2 + NSI(18.14)*3 6

Where NSI(x) represents the number of NSI points for week x.

That way the latest week will count the most, the second latest a little less and the week that was 3 weeks ago even less...

Okay, algebra class dismissed

Don't ask when I'll be done, I don't know. I'll do part of it tonight, maybe the rest tomorrow.

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Old 03-19-2003, 08:09 PM   #39
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Maybe you could put the number of what place you're in to make it a little clearer where exactly teams rank?
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:21 PM   #40
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Maybe you could put the number of what place you're in to make it a little clearer where exactly teams rank?


It's in there somewhere, under the TW in the middle This is your team's place in the rankings as of this week. Next to it would be last week's place, to compare if you're going up or down...

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Old 03-20-2003, 12:47 PM   #41
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Hey, just saw this. In a word, Sweet!
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Old 03-21-2003, 09:16 AM   #42
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final version of week 18.14 rankings

okay, I'm done with the week 18.14 rankings. See the first post at the top.

I've hunt game rating for all 78 teams (we're down to 78 from 79, Atlanta Rohirrim lost his team 03/18) for the last 4 weeks of the season and I computed a weighted moving average for both this week (18.14) and last week (18.13).

As explained before the latest week counts for triple it's value, the second closest for double its value and the third closest week for its single value. The whole sum is then divided by 6 to give an average. For week 18.13, the average is comprised of game ratings for weeks 18.11, 18.12, and 18.13. For week 18.14, the average is made with the ratings for weeks 18.12, 18.13, and 18.14. If a team has only two ratings, its average is made with double value the closest week, and single value of the second closest week. If a team has only one week of ratings, its average is simply that value.

In the rankings, I've also added the rank as teh first column, to make it easier to see where you stand right now. I've added columns for your best rank ever (starting with week 18.13) and for your best rating average. The "+/-" column now has some use and it shows you if your team is moving up or down in the rankings (and by how many spots) and it shows you how many NSI points your teams has either won or lost.

I've also added the FOFC member name and Hattrick ID. That way you know whose team it is and the team ID makes it easy to search for the team in Hattrick if you want to take a look at it.

I know the formatting is still not too good, but I'm planning on setting up a barebones website where it'll look a little better.

As always, your comments are welcome!

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Well done, again!

The Morrisvillians vow to return to the top 10 again, very soon.
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Old 03-21-2003, 11:35 AM   #44
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On a slightly-related note...

The Screamin' Seamen will play host to the Gargoyles this coming Wednesday, in what is perhaps the most anticipated non-cup friendly match of the season. Since it is the off-season, both teams will likely field their starters, primarily.

Should be fun, as the top two teams in the FOFC Ratings square off. Tickets are still available.
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Old 03-24-2003, 02:18 PM   #45
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BUMP - mostly because this thread doesn't deserve to ever see page 2.
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Old 03-24-2003, 02:23 PM   #46
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BUMP - mostly because this thread doesn't deserve to ever see page 2.


Nev, it will, but only because the rankings for week 19-01 will have been posted Man this seems far far in the future...

About them NSI points. Did anyone see how accurate they were in predicting the outcome of tue different qualification matches played by FOFCer. By looking at the teams' NSI points for the last three games, we could see who was gonna contend and who was gonna have a rough time. Hamas Mad Bombers was neck and neck with his opponent in the ratings and he lost 4-3...

See the thread in the General Discussion group.

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Old 03-24-2003, 06:58 PM   #47
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Lightbulb Now available in HTML and PDF!!!

another shameless bump to let you know that I've made the rankings into a quick html page that you can look at (easier to read than the present version) and another that you can download and print in PDF format. Here are the links:



Easy to print in PDF format

FOFC Hattrick rankings on the web!!!

As always, your comments are welcome!

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Old 03-25-2003, 01:03 AM   #48
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Old 03-25-2003, 01:05 AM   #49
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Dola

Are you going to use the same page every week or will I have to goto another page? I ask this because it's now in my favorites.

If you are going to use another page, will you have an index page of all the weeks and also a link to dacman's lists?
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Old 03-25-2003, 09:13 AM   #50
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Dola

Are you going to use the same page every week or will I have to goto another page? I ask this because it's now in my favorites.

If you are going to use another page, will you have an index page of all the weeks and also a link to dacman's lists?


Man, I like your enthusiasm about the rankings

This is sort of a temporary page (name 18-14.htm and 18-14.pdf so you see it week related). I plan on making a front page, very barebones, with a tiny top frame with links to past weeks and team performances. The bottom frame would be the current weekly rankings. You might have to adjust your bookmark in the future, but once I'll settle on a standard, I should stick to it.

A link to dacman's lists could be possible...

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