(POL) FOX News Alters Photos of NYT Reporters

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 10:22 AM

http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002

Summary: During a segment in which Fox & Friends co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade labeled New York Times reporter Jacques Steinberg and editor Steven Reddicliffe "attack dogs," Fox News featured photos of Steinberg and Reddicliffe that appeared to have been digitally altered -- the journalists' teeth had been yellowed, their facial features exaggerated, and portions of Reddicliffe's hair moved further back on his head.

NoMyths · 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM

That's Faux News for you.

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM

This was apparently done in retaliation to a piece in the Times stating that Fox News is losing viewers to CNN and MSNBC:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/ar...=1&oref=slogin

albionmoonlight · 07-03-2008, 10:26 AM

I love that they made the top guy's nose more Jewish.

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I love that they made the top guy's nose more Jewish.

Yeah, it can be argued that there are some anti-semitic aspects to this as well, but that's kind of just icing on the cake of the douchebaggery here.

MikeVic · 07-03-2008, 10:35 AM

Hahaha wow.

Subby · 07-03-2008, 10:52 AM

Reminds me of the time they "mistakenly" labeled Mark Foley as a democrat.

ISiddiqui · 07-03-2008, 10:54 AM

Fair and Balanced

digamma · 07-03-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Reminds me of the time they "mistakenly" labeled Mark Foley as a democrat.

Or "jokingly" labeled Obama's wife his "baby mama."

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Or "jokingly" labeled Obama's wife his "baby mama."

I missed that one. Wow.

JPhillips · 07-03-2008, 11:41 AM

I bet Dutch is livid.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 11:43 AM

LOL.....this is quickly turning into a liberal masturbatory thread.

Big Fo · 07-03-2008, 11:51 AM

I <3 the conservative media, they never stop bringing the lulz.

QuikSand · 07-03-2008, 12:24 PM

I'm disappointed in myself for still being surprised by this sort of thing.

Ksyrup · 07-03-2008, 12:32 PM

Utter ridiculousness. The first guy's chin looks like a butt-face costume.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-03-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

LOL.....this is quickly turning into a liberal masturbatory thread.

And this surprises you because ... ?

Subby · 07-03-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

LOL.....this is quickly turning into a liberal masturbatory thread.

Stick to video games, kid.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Stick to video games, kid.

Stick to masturbating, lib.

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 12:59 PM

So it's "masturbating" to comment on a news channel manipulating images to promote an agenda?

Wow. Ok.

digamma · 07-03-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I missed that one. Wow.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

So it's "masturbating" to comment on a news channel manipulating images to promote an agenda?

Wow. Ok.

All of the news sources contain inherent bias. FOXNews is no worse than CNN or MSNBC, though I'm sure that most of the posters in this thread would argue that point.

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 01:05 PM

If CNN or MSNBC have doctored photos in their stories to make certain people look like bafoons, I'd like to see a link to that.

Or are you just talking out of your ass?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

If CNN or MSNBC have doctored photos in their stories to make certain people look like bafoons, I'd like to see a link to that.

Or are you just talking out of your ass?

You're right. They have no inherent bias. The nation thanks them for revealing the truth in all cases.

st.cronin · 07-03-2008, 01:07 PM

Just to play devil's advocate... would anybody be willing to wager that the "actual" photos are undoctored?

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

You're right. They have no inherent bias. The nation thanks them for revealing the truth in all cases.

I'll take your word for it. You are, after all, the expert in bias.

KWhit · 07-03-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Just to play devil's advocate... would anybody be willing to wager that the "actual" photos are undoctored?

No idea. But if so, they needed to get someone better to do the touch ups. The guy in the bottom picture has a pretty f-ed up complexion in the original pic.

gstelmack · 07-03-2008, 01:18 PM

They still haven't put rockets on pickup truck gastanks, but they are definitely joining the ranks of modern media. Welcome to the 20th century Fox News!

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I'll take your word for it. You are, after all, the expert in bias.

Yeah, my bias obviously shows through when I point out that all media sources are inherently bias.

CraigSca · 07-03-2008, 01:33 PM

How can we know for sure these pics were even doctored?!

sabotai · 07-03-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, my bias obviously shows through when I point out that all media sources are inherently bias.

Your love of strawman arguments certainly shows.

Noop · 07-03-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, my bias obviously shows through when I point out that all media sources are inherently bias.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Your love of strawman arguments certainly shows.

Buying the conspiracy hook, line, and sinker, are you?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

How can we know for sure these pics were even doctored?!

Because a liberal media news member said they were?

sabotai · 07-03-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Buying the conspiracy hook, line, and sinker, are you?

No, just pointing out that your reply (replies) to KWhit are simple strawman arguments.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

No, just pointing out that your reply (replies) to KWhit are simple strawman arguments.

No, they're stupid sarcastic comments that have as much basis in fact as the perception he tried to advance that FoxNews is the only news outlet with inherent bias built into the reporting.

sabotai · 07-03-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

How can we know for sure these pics were even doctored?!

For one, we can see that the photos shown on Fox News is vastly different than the originals.

Secondly, anyone who has messed around with Photoshop for a few seconds can spot the obvious use of a smear tool. Look at the guy's forehead and hairline in the second photo. Does that look even close to natural to you?

Passacaglia · 07-03-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

No, they're stupid sarcastic comments that have as much basis in fact as the perception he tried to advance that FoxNews is the only news outlet with inherent bias built into the reporting.

Actually, I think he was arguing your point that "FOX News is no worse than CNN or MSNBC," not the point that they all have bias. Because doctoring photos *is* worse than having some bias.

sabotai · 07-03-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

No, they're stupid sarcastic comments that have as much basis in fact as the perception he tried to advance that FoxNews is the only news outlet with inherent bias built into the reporting.

He never said or implied that. Your own bias is showing if you actually think he did.

Noop · 07-03-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Your own bias is showing if you actually think he did.

cartman · 07-03-2008, 02:04 PM

Wow, the PS3 firmware fiasco is really affecting MBBF.

jeff061 · 07-03-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Yeah, my bias obviously shows through when I point out that all media sources are inherently bias.

No, you also said that Fox is no worse than CNN or MSNBC. These two points are not mutually exclusive.

dbd1963 · 07-03-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

No, they're stupid sarcastic comments that have as much basis in fact as the perception he tried to advance that FoxNews is the only news outlet with inherent bias built into the reporting.

Good god..

Sab said you were building a straw man and you STILL said it again.

Show us where anyone but you ever said that?

RainMaker · 07-03-2008, 02:07 PM

The liberal media hates the PS3.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-03-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dbd1963

Good god..

Sab said you were building a straw man and you STILL said it again.

Show us where anyone but you ever said that?

Great, sounds like we're all in agreement then and I was mistaken.

dbd1963 · 07-03-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Great, sounds like we're all in agreement then and I was mistaken.

I'm not sure you agree at all, because your tone is clearly sarcastic.

jeff061 · 07-03-2008, 02:13 PM

Keeping egging him on. This is funny.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-03-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Because doctoring photos *is* worse than having some bias.

Baloney.

It's on the FXNC version of the Today show for crying out loud, that's not exactly what I'd call hard news. And it's the weather guy & the sports guy to boot. Overall it's entertainment programming that happens to have some news elements. If somebody goofing around with a picture (if in fact that's what actually happened) in that context is considered a big deal to some, more power to them for taking time away from the lefty's who could have used the time to do something that actually caused damage instead of frittering it away on this.

Calis · 07-03-2008, 02:30 PM

I did just run across this response from the New York Times that had a pretty good line in it.

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Neither Steinberg nor Reddicliffe were reachable for comment Wednesday. But Times Culture Editor Sam Sifton called the Fox photo work "disgusting," and the criticism of the paper's reporting "a specious and meritless claim."

"It wasn't a hit piece," Sifton told E&P. "It was straight news. This was a hit piece by Fox News. It is beneath comment." Asked if the paper planned to respond to Fox's actions, he said no: "It is fighting with a pig, everyone gets dirty and the pig likes it."

Love that last line.

I'm more offended by the ineptitude of the person that photoshopped those than anything else. Fox News should be able to manage better than that.

Flasch186 · 07-03-2008, 02:33 PM

c'mon, this isnt ok for anyone to do. Right or Left. MBBf, Jon take a step back, a deep breath and say, "Yeah, that's pretty shady to do."

What's amazing to me is when I saw the top and my jaw hit the desk, i slowly reeled it back up only to read some of the following posts and have my jaw smack off the desk again....bruising is coming but Im calling Fox News to help me doctor my face up.

Noop · 07-03-2008, 02:35 PM

You FOX fans must be super rich.

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NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	That's Faux News for you.

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KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	This was apparently done in retaliation to a piece in the Times stating that Fox News is losing viewers to CNN and MSNBC: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/28/ar...=1&oref=slogin

07-03-2008, 10:26 AM	#4
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I love that they made the top guy's nose more Jewish.

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MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Hahaha wow.

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Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	LOL.....this is quickly turning into a liberal masturbatory thread.

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Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I <3 the conservative media, they never stop bringing the lulz.

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QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I'm disappointed in myself for still being surprised by this sort of thing.

07-03-2008, 12:59 PM	#19
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	So it's "masturbating" to comment on a news channel manipulating images to promote an agenda? Wow. Ok.

07-03-2008, 01:05 PM	#22
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	If CNN or MSNBC have doctored photos in their stories to make certain people look like bafoons, I'd like to see a link to that. Or are you just talking out of your ass?

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