Mars, on the rocks

MJ4H · 06-19-2008, 11:02 PM

We have ice!

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...hoenix-tw.html

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Originally Posted by the artice

There is water ice on Mars within reach of the Mars Phoenix Lander, NASA scientists announced Thursday.

Racer · 06-19-2008, 11:06 PM

Pretty big finding. Pretty cool too.

JetsIn06 · 06-20-2008, 12:24 AM

Nice!

rowech · 06-20-2008, 06:26 AM

First off...I do believe it's ice. However, it certainly isn't conclusive evidence to me. Perhaps it's a compound that we've never seen on Earth that does the same thing as ice? Not great science to immediately decide it's ice. Like I said...I do believe it is but I'd certainly want more evidence if I was on the team.

Young Drachma · 06-20-2008, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rowech

First off...I do believe it's ice. However, it certainly isn't conclusive evidence to me. Perhaps it's a compound that we've never seen on Earth that does the same thing as ice? Not great science to immediately decide it's ice. Like I said...I do believe it is but I'd certainly want more evidence if I was on the team.

Yeah, the picture didn't really convince me either. But once they colourize it in a few days, it'll show more than we're really able to see now.

sterlingice · 06-20-2008, 07:40 AM

Neat, if true

SI

Young Drachma · 06-20-2008, 07:56 AM

Seems strange ice would be randomly logged on the ground where only to vanish from the dirt. And I like how the reports say "it must be ice" as opposed to something more definitive. I dunno.

Anyway, that pic comes from the Phoenix site.

rowech · 06-20-2008, 08:06 AM

I'm just not sure I buy it. I'd like to see a lot more evidence than that. For what has been such an essential question for so many years, it seems like a really crappy way to "prove" it.

spleen1015 · 06-20-2008, 08:18 AM

I don't know how you can prove that is ice.

flere-imsaho · 06-20-2008, 08:20 AM

I'm going to assume the lander has sensors or whatever that can relay data the scientists can use to show it's ice.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-20-2008, 08:27 AM

Here's the actual NASA article with a better animation included..........

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ph...-20080619.html

Regarding the composition of the material, they should be able to detect it in the ovens on-board the lander. I'm sure they'll move to do more checking of that in the coming days.

rowech · 06-20-2008, 09:34 AM

As I said...I totally believe it's ice. I'd just like something a little better than what we have.

TredWel · 06-20-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Armstrong

That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.

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Originally Posted by Mars Phoenix Lander

Are you ready to celebrate? Well, get ready: We have ICE!!!!! Yes, ICE, *WATER ICE* on Mars! w00t!!! Best day ever!!

It's been a long forty years.

Young Drachma · 06-20-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TredWel

It's been a long forty years.

Well played, sir.

06-20-2008, 07:40 AM	#6
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06-20-2008, 08:18 AM	#9
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I don't know how you can prove that is ice. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

06-19-2008, 11:06 PM	#2
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Pretty big finding. Pretty cool too.

06-20-2008, 12:24 AM	#3
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Nice!

06-20-2008, 06:26 AM	#4
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	First off...I do believe it's ice. However, it certainly isn't conclusive evidence to me. Perhaps it's a compound that we've never seen on Earth that does the same thing as ice? Not great science to immediately decide it's ice. Like I said...I do believe it is but I'd certainly want more evidence if I was on the team.

06-20-2008, 07:56 AM	#7
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Seems strange ice would be randomly logged on the ground where only to vanish from the dirt. And I like how the reports say "it must be ice" as opposed to something more definitive. I dunno. Anyway, that pic comes from the Phoenix site.

06-20-2008, 08:06 AM	#8
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I'm just not sure I buy it. I'd like to see a lot more evidence than that. For what has been such an essential question for so many years, it seems like a really crappy way to "prove" it.

06-20-2008, 08:20 AM	#10
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I'm going to assume the lander has sensors or whatever that can relay data the scientists can use to show it's ice.

06-20-2008, 08:27 AM	#11
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Here's the actual NASA article with a better animation included.......... http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ph...-20080619.html Regarding the composition of the material, they should be able to detect it in the ovens on-board the lander. I'm sure they'll move to do more checking of that in the coming days.

06-20-2008, 09:34 AM	#12
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	As I said...I totally believe it's ice. I'd just like something a little better than what we have.

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