THE Official 2008 NASCAR Thread!

DanGarion · 02-11-2008, 03:46 PM

So I looked around real quick and realized that we don't have a 2008 NASCAR Thread, well now we do.

Jimmy and Michael on the pole. Dale Jr. wins the Bud Shootout for his new team owner. Those are just some of the stories from the first weekend of NASCAR.

I think Dale Jr. has a great chance of winning this upcoming weekend top 10 in qualifying. And I got to say even though I'm normally a Chevy guys I really have a soft spot for Boris Said and I hope he's able to get in on Thursday. Should be an interesting season with 4 former Indy winners now in the Cup and all these new open wheel guys coming to race with the good ol' boys.

Lathum · 02-11-2008, 04:37 PM

I started an fofc nascar fantasy league for any interested parties.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=63712

DanGarion · 02-12-2008, 02:41 PM

Busch and Stewart both get on probation for 6 races after their little incident during/after practice last Friday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?...v=ap&type=lgns

DanGarion · 02-14-2008, 04:28 PM

Dale Jr. wins the first Twin-125 Qualifier!

JonInMiddleGA · 02-14-2008, 04:32 PM

Dale Jarrett & John Andretti race their way into Sunday's race in the 2nd qualifier, leaving David Reuttiman to fall back on his qualifying time and leaving hardluck Boris Said on the outside looking in.

Most of the newer import drivers (from other series) were fairly quiet today, although Patrick Carpentier looked good until the car went away from him & eventually sent him into the wall.

DanGarion · 02-14-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Dale Jarrett & John Andretti race their way into Sunday's race in the 2nd qualifier, leaving David Reuttiman to fall back on his qualifying time and leaving hardluck Boris Said on the outside looking in.

Most of the newer import drivers (from other series) were fairly quiet today, although Patrick Carpentier looked good until the car went away from him & eventually sent him into the wall.

Sucks for Carpentier he really seems like a nice guy from his conversations last weekend I saw. I'm not a big fan of how they are doing qualifying nowadays, I don't think last years team points should factor into qualifying for this years race. I'm looking for a starting grid for Daytona but they don't have it posted yet.

DanGarion · 02-14-2008, 06:21 PM

I love this quote from Tony in this article from Yahoo.

Dale Earnhardt Jr., Denny Hamlin win qualifiers; Dale Jarrett races his way into Daytona 500

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Hendrick drivers Jeff Gordon and Casey Mears start from the next two rows, meaning six of the first 10 starting spots will be filled by Hendrick or Gibbs drivers.

It pits NASCAR's top two teams against each other in a battle between Chevrolet and Toyota. Gibbs left General Motors this season when it grew tired of playing second fiddle to Hendrick, which won 18 of 36 races last year.

``It's going to be the epic battle, and it should be the battle of a lifetime and the century,'' Stewart quipped. ``There may not be another battle of this proportion for the rest of my life, my career, for the century.''

DanGarion · 02-16-2008, 10:54 AM

I can't believe this, are Jon and I the only people interested in NASCAR?

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Order Driver (No.) Car Qualifying Speed
1 Jimmie Johnson (48) Chevrolet 187.075 mph
2 Michael Waltrip (55) Toyota 186.734 mph
3 Dale Earnhardt Jr. (88) Chevrolet 185.479 mph
4 Denny Hamlin (11) Toyota 185.947 mph
5 Reed Sorenson (41) Dodge 184.264 mph
6 Tony Stewart (20) Toyota 185.651 mph
7 Ryan Newman (12) Dodge 185.143 mph
8 Jeff Gordon (24) Chevrolet 185.858 mph
9 Casey Mears (5) Chevrolet 186.054 mph
10 Kasey Kahne (9) Dodge 184.828 mph
11 Carl Edwards (99) Ford 184.487 mph
12 Mark Martin (8) Chevrolet 185.429 mph
13 Bobby Labonte (43) Dodge 183.857 mph
14 David Ragan (6) Ford 185.594 mph
15 Juan Pablo Montoya (42) Dodge 184.241 mph
16 Kevin Harvick (29) Chevrolet 184.589 mph
17 Kenny Wallace (187) Chevrolet 184.953 mph
18 Greg Biffle (16) Ford 185.071 mph
19 Sam Hornish Jr. (77) Dodge 184.226 mph
20 Dale Jarrett (44) Toyota 185.345 mph
21 Paul Menard (15) Chevrolet 184.415 mph
22 John Andretti (34) Chevrolet 183.673 mph
23 Brian Vickers (83) Toyota 185.475 mph
24 Kyle Busch (18) Toyota 184.809 mph
25 Martin Truex Jr. (1) Chevrolet 184.290 mph
26 Robby Gordon (7) Dodge 184.850 mph
27 Scott Riggs (66) Chevrolet 185.193 mph
28 Matt Kenseth (17) Ford 185.517 mph
29 Regan Smith (01) Chevrolet 184.964 mph
30 Travis Kvapil (28) Ford 185.958 mph
31 Clint Bowyer (07) Chevrolet 184.106 mph
32 David Gilliland (38) Ford 185.410 mph
33 Jeremy Mayfield (70) Chevrolet 184.612 mph
34 Dave Blaney (22) Toyota 186.120 mph
35 Elliott Sadler (19) Dodge 184.521 mph
36 Jeff Burton (31) Chevrolet 183.884 mph
37 J.J. Yeley (96) Toyota 182.994 mph
38 Jamie McMurray (26) Ford 185.010 mph
39 Kyle Petty (45) Dodge 183.374 mph
40 Dario Franchitti (40) Dodge 184.351 mph
41 Joe Nemechek (78) Chevrolet 186.498 mph
42 David Reutimann (00) Toyota 186.463 mph
43 Kurt Busch (2) Dodge 184.540 mph

JonInMiddleGA · 02-16-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

I can't believe this, are Jon and I the only people interested in NASCAR?

That's probably not as far from reality as NASCAR would like to think

And my interest, while up a bit simply because of the start of a new season, isn't even remotely close to what it used to be.

Meanwhile, from the "new drivers coming into Cup" newsfile

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Bill Davis Racing has announced that it will tap into its pool of veteran Cup Series drivers to pilot the No. 27 Toyota Camry during the next several Sprint Cup Series races. Truck Series standouts Mike Skinner and Johnny Benson are both expected to step behind the wheel of BDR's No. 27 entry.

Bill Davis Racing will continue to support Jacques Villeneuve in his pursuit of a successful career in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series. Villeneuve failed to make the Daytona 500 when he crashed out of the second Gatorade Duel. (watch video)

"We know that Jacques has the talent and the desire to be in NASCAR, and are diligently working on a long-term relationship with him," team owner Bill Davis said.

Mike Skinner, last year's Truck Series runner-up, will drive the No. 27 Toyota Camry next weekend at California Speedway.

DanGarion · 02-16-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

That's probably not as far from reality as NASCAR would like to think

And my interest, while up a bit simply because of the start of a new season, isn't even remotely close to what it used to be.

Meanwhile, from the "new drivers coming into Cup" newsfile

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Bill Davis Racing has announced that it will tap into its pool of veteran Cup Series drivers to pilot the No. 27 Toyota Camry during the next several Sprint Cup Series races. Truck Series standouts Mike Skinner and Johnny Benson are both expected to step behind the wheel of BDR's No. 27 entry.

Bill Davis Racing will continue to support Jacques Villeneuve in his pursuit of a successful career in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series. Villeneuve failed to make the Daytona 500 when he crashed out of the second Gatorade Duel. (watch video)

"We know that Jacques has the talent and the desire to be in NASCAR, and are diligently working on a long-term relationship with him," team owner Bill Davis said.

Mike Skinner, last year's Truck Series runner-up, will drive the No. 27 Toyota Camry next weekend at California Speedway.

That seems like a cop out. Was Villeneuve only signed for this race?

JonInMiddleGA · 02-16-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

That seems like a cop out. Was Villeneuve only signed for this race?

I'm not sure anybody over there is signed per se.

From Jayski, (citing AP, SI, and a Canadian newspaper) it appears that Bill Davis Racing is basically running on fumes with no sponsors & on the verge of shutting down. "The financial limitations have him lagging behind the super teams, and even though his years of open-wheel success made him a very rich man, he's not prepared to finance this venture himself because he spent so much to get the operation off the ground late last year, and money is a little tight. "

So there's no sponsor at the moment, Villeneuve can't/won't fund the operation himself, marketing efforts to find a sponsor apparently took a hit when he (Villeneuve) fired his business manager in late January, and so that leaves Davis trying to find some way to get the car into a race or two. Enter Benson & Skinner.

As for Skinner at CMS, in six career starts there he's got two top 10's with an average start of 21st and average finish of 22nd, so he seems like a reasonable bet.

RendeR · 02-16-2008, 01:44 PM

I'm a fan, I've just been too busy with work and some extracurricular activities to spend a ton of time on the boards lately. I'm keeping an eye on this though and will pipe in whenever I can =)

Lathum · 02-16-2008, 02:38 PM

Just a reminder to get your drivers set for the race tomorrow.

gkb · 02-17-2008, 12:48 AM

I'm a fan as well...although new to the sport. I didn't follow too closely last year, but for whatever reason my interest has been rekindled this year.

Cringer · 02-17-2008, 06:04 PM

I'm not a huge NASCAR guy but I will watch a race if I have nothing going on. Just saw the end of the Daytona 500 and it was a damn good finish. Kind of wanted to see Stewart win it at the end, but still pretty damn good. I am a Dodge kind of guy anyways.

Lathum · 02-17-2008, 06:08 PM

Great finish

BigDPW · 02-17-2008, 06:35 PM

Wow... I really can't believe Ryan Newman of all people one the Daytona 500... I have never been a big fan of his and he is a good driver but he never seems to put it together when it really matters.

Congrats to Ryan...

oliegirl · 02-17-2008, 06:51 PM

I'm a fan, but not to the degree that JiMGA or Dangarion are...I watch the races and keep up with the drama, but that's about it. My dad and some friends go to Daytona every year, I just talked to him and he said the finish was amazing and it was one of the best races they've seen. It was great on TV so I can only imagine what it was like in person...a great opening to the season...

Galaxy · 02-18-2008, 10:14 PM

I hated the whole "NFL-ization" of yesterday's race.

I love the 500, but I always why it is the "Premier" race (besides the history). How much of it is luck? How much comes down to skill, car, and a team; when you can bounce 10-20 spots in two laps? Anyone know where I'm going with it.

To me, the Coke-Cola 600 seems to be the ideal race.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-24-2008, 11:53 PM

This is ridiculous.

Currently NASCAR is planning to resume today's rain delayed race at Fontana ... 15 minutes from now, at 1am eastern time.

Rich1033 · 02-25-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

This is ridiculous.

Currently NASCAR is planning to resume today's rain delayed race at Fontana ... 15 minutes from now, at 1am eastern time.

Ha, thats hilarious. Im asking myself if there is a channel that will really carry this race at 1am(yes, I know its 10pm there), then I turn the channel to Fox and there it is. Odd, but I will watch until I fall asleep.

[edit- well nascar.com says it will resume at 2am, I dont think I will last that long]

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 12:13 AM

FoxAtlanta didn't even break away from whatever the heck this syndicated sci-fi show they're carrying.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-25-2008, 12:17 AM

They've decided to wait yet another hour because the track is still seeping water. I wonder if the drivers have even had an opportunity to nap or something. If they only had maybe 30 or 40 laps to go, I'd think that fatigue wouldn't be a big issue. They still have 163 laps to go, however. I know these guys are professional drivers and all, but they had prepared themselves for a 1pm PT start, and now they have to do two-thirds of the race starting at 11pm PT. Fatigue's going to be a pretty decent factor by the end of this, huh?

Rich1033 · 02-25-2008, 01:03 AM

They just came on fox and said they have finally decided to wait until daylight. Its been moved to later today at around 1pm est.

Why would they even attempt to run a race at 2am(or 2:30 by the time they start)? I only have passing interest in nascar, but do they even care if their fans get to see the race?

Lathum · 02-25-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich1033

They just came on fox and said they have finally decided to wait until daylight. Its been moved to later today at around 1pm est.

Why would they even attempt to run a race at 2am(or 2:30 by the time they start)? I only have passing interest in nascar, but do they even care if their fans get to see the race?

Either way fans won't see the race. NASCAR does everything possible to get the race in on the same day.

Does anyone know if it will be of Fox?

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Does anyone know if it will be of Fox?

Yep, Fox.

And the Nationwide (nee BGN) race starts afterwards, maybe around 5pm, on ESPN2.

rkmsuf · 02-25-2008, 10:36 AM

Nascar should be required to use alternative fuels. What a waste of gas.

Lathum · 02-25-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Nascar should be required to use alternative fuels. What a waste of gas.

I'm curious what you mean by this

Pumpy Tudors · 02-25-2008, 10:55 AM

i think it's time for the rkmsuf bye week

rkmsuf · 02-25-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm curious what you mean by this

I was just watching a race the other day and at the same time thinking about gas prices. Then noticed they all raced 500 miles in a circle. Sometime later when someone helped me crunch the numbers I was like wow, that's a lot of gas.

rkmsuf · 02-25-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

i think it's time for the rkmsuf bye week

Like I would fall for that schtick.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I was just watching a race the other day and at the same time thinking about gas prices. Then noticed they all raced 500 miles in a circle. Sometime later when someone helped me crunch the numbers I was like wow, that's a lot of gas.

I bet it would make it even worse for you to find out that Sunoco gives them the gas at no charge (as part of their deal to be the "Official Gas of NASCAR").

Lathum · 02-25-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I was just watching a race the other day and at the same time thinking about gas prices. Then noticed they all raced 500 miles in a circle. Sometime later when someone helped me crunch the numbers I was like wow, that's a lot of gas.

Yeah, but I think you can take any sport/ pasttime and find those kind of holes.

rkmsuf · 02-25-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I bet it would make it even worse for you to find out that Sunoco gives them the gas at no charge (as part of their deal to be the "Official Gas of NASCAR").

that's fabulous

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 11:21 AM

Here's an odd trivia bit I hadn't thought about: The cars average around 5 mpg. The trucks that haul the cars to the race average 4.5 mpg (and average a lot more than 500 miles each week).

A typical race weekend uses about 6,000 gallons.
Average daily fuel consumption in the U.S. is around 400 million gallons.
That's 0.0015% of a day's gasoline.

NASCAR also uses less fuel than other sports use just to transport their teams from place to place.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 02:07 PM

Meanwhile with about a dozen laps to go, it looks like it'll be a battle between one unlikable MF versus another unlikable MF.

Welcome to Hollywood.

Young Drachma · 02-25-2008, 02:15 PM

So when a race gets rain delayed, do fans stay the next day and watch? Or are the crowds sparse and thinned out as a result?

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 02:19 PM

Usually around half or less.

Dr. Sak · 02-25-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

So when a race gets rain delayed, do fans stay the next day and watch? Or are the crowds sparse and thinned out as a result?

The half that stay are the ones that got so drunk the night before they passed out in the parking lot. And when they woke it up it was like they hit the lottery when they realized there was still a race to watch.

DanGarion · 02-25-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Nascar should be required to use alternative fuels. What a waste of gas.

Yes what a waste of gas. I mean come on look at all the alternative fuels all the other sports use for transportation, and the fans, and everything. Not to mention all those alternative fuels that concerts use.

Do you really think that NASCAR has much if any impact compared to any other major event (sporting or not)?

DanGarion · 02-25-2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Meanwhile with about a dozen laps to go, it looks like it'll be a battle between one unlikable MF versus another unlikable MF.

Welcome to Hollywood.

If you don't like Jimmie then you yourself must be an unlikable MF...

RendeR · 02-25-2008, 04:15 PM

Jimmie? jimmie Johnson? Talk about UNLIKABLE

Tha guy is an asshole.

Chubby · 02-25-2008, 04:30 PM

How hard is it to turn left?

RendeR · 02-25-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

How hard is it to turn left?

Get in a car that will do 195+, go that fast, and try. When we peel you're ass off the concrete, you'l know its harder than you think

DanGarion · 02-25-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Jimmie? jimmie Johnson? Talk about UNLIKABLE

Tha guy is an asshole.

WTF? What about him is unlikable? Unless you are a ford loser there is no reason to not like the guy!

Galaxy · 02-25-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Get in a car that will do 195+, go that fast, and try. When we peel you're ass off the concrete, you'l know its harder than you think

Do it for 3 hrs or so with 42 other cars going the same speed all around you in tight situations.

I gotta say, NASCAR screwed up the handling of the rain delay of the race. They need to get fined and prohibition.

gkb · 02-25-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Do it for 3 hrs or so with 42 other cars going the same speed all around you in tight situations.

I gotta say, NASCAR screwed up the handling of the rain delay of the race. They need to get fined and prohibition.

When I first read this I thought your last sentence said, "They need to get fined and probed."

That would, indeed, be punishment that would deter future infractions.

DanGarion · 02-25-2008, 06:43 PM

I've never seen this site before, but it's pretty funny.

http://blackflaggedonline.com/

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

WTF? What about him is unlikable?

Just another big mouth candy ass from California. The only place he belongs at a NASCAR track is stuck to a wall.

Lathum · 02-25-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Just another big mouth candy ass from California. The only place he belongs at a NASCAR track is stuck to a wall.

Maybe since the Frosted Flakes car didn't give it away Nascar stopped being about the good old boys about 10 years ago

02-12-2008, 02:41 PM	#3
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02-14-2008, 04:28 PM	#4
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02-14-2008, 04:32 PM	#5
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Dale Jarrett & John Andretti race their way into Sunday's race in the 2nd qualifier, leaving David Reuttiman to fall back on his qualifying time and leaving hardluck Boris Said on the outside looking in. Most of the newer import drivers (from other series) were fairly quiet today, although Patrick Carpentier looked good until the car went away from him & eventually sent him into the wall. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-16-2008, 01:44 PM	#12
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm a fan, I've just been too busy with work and some extracurricular activities to spend a ton of time on the boards lately. I'm keeping an eye on this though and will pipe in whenever I can =) __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

02-17-2008, 12:48 AM	#14
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02-11-2008, 04:37 PM	#2
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I started an fofc nascar fantasy league for any interested parties. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=63712

02-16-2008, 02:38 PM	#13
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Just a reminder to get your drivers set for the race tomorrow.

02-17-2008, 06:04 PM	#15
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I'm not a huge NASCAR guy but I will watch a race if I have nothing going on. Just saw the end of the Daytona 500 and it was a damn good finish. Kind of wanted to see Stewart win it at the end, but still pretty damn good. I am a Dodge kind of guy anyways. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

02-17-2008, 06:08 PM	#16
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Great finish

02-17-2008, 06:35 PM	#17
BigDPW College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC	Wow... I really can't believe Ryan Newman of all people one the Daytona 500... I have never been a big fan of his and he is a good driver but he never seems to put it together when it really matters. Congrats to Ryan...

02-18-2008, 10:14 PM	#19
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I hated the whole "NFL-ization" of yesterday's race. I love the 500, but I always why it is the "Premier" race (besides the history). How much of it is luck? How much comes down to skill, car, and a team; when you can bounce 10-20 spots in two laps? Anyone know where I'm going with it. To me, the Coke-Cola 600 seems to be the ideal race. Last edited by Galaxy : 02-18-2008 at 10:15 PM.

02-24-2008, 11:53 PM	#20
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	This is ridiculous. Currently NASCAR is planning to resume today's rain delayed race at Fontana ... 15 minutes from now, at 1am eastern time. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-25-2008, 12:13 AM	#22
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	FoxAtlanta didn't even break away from whatever the heck this syndicated sci-fi show they're carrying. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-25-2008, 12:17 AM	#23
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	They've decided to wait yet another hour because the track is still seeping water. I wonder if the drivers have even had an opportunity to nap or something. If they only had maybe 30 or 40 laps to go, I'd think that fatigue wouldn't be a big issue. They still have 163 laps to go, however. I know these guys are professional drivers and all, but they had prepared themselves for a 1pm PT start, and now they have to do two-thirds of the race starting at 11pm PT. Fatigue's going to be a pretty decent factor by the end of this, huh? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-25-2008, 01:03 AM	#24
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	They just came on fox and said they have finally decided to wait until daylight. Its been moved to later today at around 1pm est. Why would they even attempt to run a race at 2am(or 2:30 by the time they start)? I only have passing interest in nascar, but do they even care if their fans get to see the race?

02-25-2008, 10:36 AM	#27
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Nascar should be required to use alternative fuels. What a waste of gas. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-25-2008, 10:55 AM	#29
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	i think it's time for the rkmsuf bye week __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-25-2008, 11:21 AM	#35
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Here's an odd trivia bit I hadn't thought about: The cars average around 5 mpg. The trucks that haul the cars to the race average 4.5 mpg (and average a lot more than 500 miles each week). A typical race weekend uses about 6,000 gallons. Average daily fuel consumption in the U.S. is around 400 million gallons. That's 0.0015% of a day's gasoline. NASCAR also uses less fuel than other sports use just to transport their teams from place to place. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-25-2008, 02:07 PM	#36
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Meanwhile with about a dozen laps to go, it looks like it'll be a battle between one unlikable MF versus another unlikable MF. Welcome to Hollywood. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-25-2008, 02:15 PM	#37
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	So when a race gets rain delayed, do fans stay the next day and watch? Or are the crowds sparse and thinned out as a result?

02-25-2008, 02:19 PM	#38
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Usually around half or less. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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02-25-2008, 04:30 PM	#43
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	How hard is it to turn left?

02-25-2008, 06:43 PM	#48
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