November Console Sales Numbers

[Atocep]

November 2007 Hardware Sales
Nintendo DS -- 1,530,000
Wii -- 981,000
Xbox 360 -- 770,000
PlayStation Portable -- 567,000
PlayStation 2 -- 496,000
PlayStation 3 -- 466,000


November 2007 Software Sales
1. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Xbox 360) -- 1,570,000
2. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) -- 1,120,000
3. Assassin's Creed (Xbox 360) -- 980,000
4. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (PlayStation 2) -- 967,000
5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) -- 564,000
6. Mass Effect (Xbox 360) -- 473,000
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PlayStation 3) -- 444,000
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock (Wii) -- 426,000
9. Halo 3 (Xbox 360) -- 387,000
10. Assassin's Creed (PlayStation 3) -- 377,000

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165014

[Buccaneer]

PlayStation 2 -- 496,000
PlayStation 3 -- 466,000

lol.

[Groundhog]

Nintendo continue to amaze me. It's really not even close.

[Crapshoot]

I assume that is US only, or is it worldwide?

[Groundhog]

That'd be US only, or else PS3 would be higher.

[Groundhog]

One of my favourite things about these console sale number threads is all the 360 fans and PS3 fans battling it out for which console is a distant second or third best in a race that is being absolutely dominated by Nintendo.

[Atocep]

NPD Monthly Console Hardware Sales

Month      |    360    |    PS3    |    Wii
Nov/2005   |   326,000 |           |
Dec/2005   |   281,000 |           |
Jan/2006   |   250,000 |           |
Feb/2006   |   161,000 |           |
Mar/2006   |   192,000 |           |

Apr/2006   |   295,000 |           | 

May/2006   |   221,000 |           |
Jun/2006   |   277,000 |           |
Jul/2006   |   207,000 |           |
Aug/2006   |   205,000 |           |
Sep/2006   |   259,000 |           |
Oct/2006   |   218,000 |           |

Nov/2006   |   511,000 |   197,000 |   476,000
Dec/2006   | 1,100,000 |   491,000 |   604,000
Jan/2007   |   294,000 |   244,000 |   436,000
Feb/2007   |   228,000 |   127,000 |   335,000
Mar/2007   |   199,000 |   130,000 |   259,000
Apr/2007   |   174,000 |    82,000 |   360,000
May/2007   |   155,000 |    82,000 |   338,000
Jun/2007   |   198,000 |    99,000 |   382,000
Jul/2007   |   170,000 |   159,000 |   425,000
Aug/2007   |   277,000 |   131,000 |   404,000
Sep/2007   |   528,000 |   119,000 |   501,000
Oct/2007   |   366,000 |   121,000 |   519,000
Nov/2007   |   770,000 |   466,000 |   981,000
Total      | 7,862,000 | 2,447,000 | 6,020,000

NPD sales in North America since the 360 launched.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

I assume that is US only, or is it worldwide?

Here's the total numbers...........

November Worldwide Totals:

Wii: 1,939,000
PS3: 1,197,000
360: 1,149,000

November North American Totals:

Wii: 981K
360: 770K
PS3: 466K

November Japanese Totals:

Wii: 237K
PS3: 215K
360: 50K

November PAL Totals:

Wii: 721K
PS3: 516K
360: 329K

[Eaglesfan27]

What is the source of those worldwide numbers?

[stevew]

Fuck the worldwide numbers.

[Fidatelo]

His boss at Sony :P

[Big Fo]

Nintendo DS

I wonder how many Wiis Nintendo could have sold without supply constraints.

Nice sales for Super Mario Galaxy, such an awesome game.

I found some non top-10 sales figures, there's a few interesting things. Uncharted kinda bombed.


Guitar Hero III (360) - 367.2K
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics (Wii) - 330k
Rock Band (360) - 312k
Wii Zapper incl. Crossbow Training (Wii) - 232k
Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS) - 226.5K
Lego Star Wars (Wii)- 180k
High School Musical (Wii) - 180k
Resident Evil UC (Wii) - 130k
Uncharted (PS3) - 117k
Crysis (PC) - 86.6k
Rock Band (PS3) - 70k
Ratchet and Clank (PS3) - 67k
FFXII: Revenant Wings (DS) - 48.6K
Zack & Wiki (Wii) - 35k
Unreal Tournament 3 (PC) - 34k
Manhunt 2 (Wii) - 18.5k

[stevew]

Wii: Supply constraints or Deliberate Marketing?

Is it really that freaking hard to open up a few new supply/manufacturing lines? Hell, the DS is often sold out of most all of the colors at any given point in time. Good luck finding a Pink one if you don't get lucky.

[Philliesfan980]

I'm getting to the point with Wii that I'm getting close to no longer caring about the system. I'm not foolish to act that this will disrupt Nintendo's master plan, but I haven't seen ONE yet in a normal walk in situation. They've been out for a year. What's going on!

[MikeVic]

You know what's interesting to me this month? Guitar Hero III for the PS2 and Wii apparently out-sold the 360 and PS3 counterparts, and were Top 10 this month!

[stevew]

How the hell is Wii Zapper considered a game. That's even worse than the lameass "Wii Play" that's not really a game either.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by stevew

Fuck the worldwide numbers.

That's unfair - I think he's PR, but the worldwide numbers are very interesting. If the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide, its worth noting.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

You know what's interesting to me this month? Guitar Hero III for the PS2 and Wii apparently out-sold the 360 and PS3 counterparts, and were Top 10 this month!

Not to me - people could use their old GH II guitars on the PS2 - why pay $90 when you can pay $50?

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

That's unfair - I think he's PR, but the worldwide numbers are very interesting. If the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide, its worth noting.

Absolutely. Gaming companies don't care where their money is coming from.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Not to me - people could use their old GH II guitars on the PS2 - why pay $90 when you can pay $50?

Bingo. I have a 360 and a PS3, and I bought GH3 on the PS2.

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by stevew

Wii: Supply constraints or Deliberate Marketing?

Is it really that freaking hard to open up a few new supply/manufacturing lines? Hell, the DS is often sold out of most all of the colors at any given point in time. Good luck finding a Pink one if you don't get lucky.

Before launch I guess they had no idea demand would be this high after what happened with the Nintendo 64 and GameCube. Still, Nintendo has produced more Wiis in it's first year than any other console in history, it just isn't enough.

Originally Posted by MikeVic

You know what's interesting to me this month? Guitar Hero III for the PS2 and Wii apparently out-sold the 360 and PS3 counterparts, and were Top 10 this month!

The PS2 numbers aren't surprising, as stated people can use the old guitars. The Wii numbers are surprisingly high, EA has to be regretting not having Wii (and PS2) versions of Rock Band out this holiday season.

[Daimyo]

PS3 catching up to second place! At this rate it will catch the XBOX 360 in total worldwide sales in approximately 15 years.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Atocep

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165014

A nice total for Mario Galaxy and even more encouraging to see GH3 for the Wii with some good 3P sales numbers. The COD numbers are surprising to me but maybe I just haven't been paying close enough attention.

{Nintendo fanboy gloat}Oh, and btw, the DS sells fairly well. How's that handheld gaming "battle" with the PSP going? What, you mean Nintendo isn't just fluff and kiddie stuff that will roll over whenever someone enters the market, particularly half assed, at best?{/Nintendo fanboy gloat}

Originally Posted by MikeVic

You know what's interesting to me this month? Guitar Hero III for the PS2 and Wii apparently out-sold the 360 and PS3 counterparts, and were Top 10 this month!

I can't remember- were all versions released the same day or was it staggered?

SI

[Pacersfan46]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

That's unfair - I think he's PR, but the worldwide numbers are very interesting. If the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide, its worth noting.

However, it is not. Just this one month in which a price drop saw a surge in sales of people waiting for it.

Off the top of my head I think that the launch of the PS3 was the last time that it did outsell the 360 in worldwide sales.

-- Steve --

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

A nice total for Mario Galaxy and even more encouraging to see GH3 for the Wii with some good 3P sales numbers. The COD numbers are surprising to me but maybe I just haven't been paying close enough attention.

{Nintendo fanboy gloat}Oh, and btw, the DS sells fairly well. How's that handheld gaming "battle" with the PSP going? What, you mean Nintendo isn't just fluff and kiddie stuff that will roll over whenever someone enters the market, particularly half assed, at best?{/Nintendo fanboy gloat}



I can't remember- were all versions released the same day or was it staggered?

SI

December is generally double November, 3m DS Lites sold next month would be amazing. I think it will pass the PS2 eventually.

GH3 came out the same day for all platforms.

[Cringer]

These threads are always so funny.

[TroyF]

1) Second place is huge, especially to Sony. The Wii is going to win the war. There isn't any doubt about that anymore. But I think the 360 and PS3 will still sell more software in the long run and second is critical to that.

2) I keep saying it, but it keeps being true: MS cared about the American market far more than any other market. They spent money marketing in Japan, but they knew they weren't carving out a lot of market share there. The PAL terrirories are dissapointing to MS, but they aren't crying over them either.

3) With that said, the US numbers have to be frightening for Sony. They cut the price of the PS3 and are still over 300k behind the 360 in US sales. That's close to devastating. If they can't close the US gap, they have no chance of catching the 360 in worldwide sales. It's what Daimyo pointed out. You are talking about an incredible ass kicking here. As of last month, the PS3 had to outsell the 360 by 300k a month for three years to catch up. 50k isn't going to cut it. And that 50k number will probably lower.

That's just painful for Sony. No matter how they try to spin it, this is getting worse by the month.

[Cringer]

I wonder what you get when you divide all these numbers?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Cringer

I wonder what you get when you divide all these numbers?

42

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Cringer

I wonder what you get when you divide all these numbers?

2/3

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Atocep

42

Originally Posted by sabotai

2/3

42=2/3

Life makes so much more sense now. I wish I had known that sooner, I could have been a millionaire.

[Cringer]

BTW, I was one of those DS buyers in November. Got the gold one with Zelda for the daughter. She had wanted a pink one, but she really liked the Gold when she saw it, so since it came with a game we went for that. If I had known pink was hard to find I would have grabbed a couple for EBay.

Also, the wife informs me she wants to buy a PS3 in the spring. We have a 360 but I won't argue. It will be our second PS3. We got one earlier this year and returned it unopened after a month. I never opened it because I didn't see any games worth playing.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Atocep

42

Correct answer.

[SackAttack]

I guess Sony is finally getting on board with the whole "DLC value card at retail bit."

They sent me a Christmas card today with a $20 PlayStation Network card in there. Now I just gotta figure out what to use it on.

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by Cringer

BTW, I was one of those DS buyers in November. Got the gold one with Zelda for the daughter. She had wanted a pink one, but she really liked the Gold when she saw it, so since it came with a game we went for that. If I had known pink was hard to find I would have grabbed a couple for EBay.

Are the pinks(Coral) really that hard to find? At last check my store still has 5. And we've had at least that many in stock for forever.


Question for anyone that knows: Whats the hardware/chip/whatever difference in the 399 PS3 and the older 60&80gb PS3s besides the 60&80s ability to do emulation of PS2?

Are the 399s any step up in design and reliability like the new 360 on the shelves are?

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Are the pinks(Coral) really that hard to find? At last check my store still has 5. And we've had at least that many in stock for forever.

I don't see them all the time, but I see them fairly often when I am in the electronics section of stores where I live. The post above, and posts I have read over the months, make it seem like it is super hard to find.

I know last Christmas is was super hard to find with lots of people wanting them.

[MJ4H]

Originally Posted by stevew

How the hell is Wii Zapper considered a game. That's even worse than the lameass "Wii Play" that's not really a game either.

It is a "peripheral" (a dumb one) that has a pack-in game. Yes, the pack-in game is actually a game. So is Wii Play. It's not worse than Wii Play though because the Zapper is horrible and worthless while the Wii Remote that comes with Wii Play is almost a necessity (meaning that more people are buying the Zapper for the pack-in game than are buying Wii Play for the game itself--making the sales number more meaningful for software sales).

[SackAttack]

Last Christmas the pink was ridiculously scarce. This year, we have more pinks in stock than any other color, although a week before Christmas, all four are in stock.

Nintendo did a great job with build-up on supply there.

[astrosfan64]

My daughter has a DS and I have a PSP

I can't stand the DS and I love the PSP. Again, Nintendo wins the kids but not the adults.

Super Mario Galaxy was complete crap. I have no clue how games like that garner 98% ratings and the such.

I really don't understand how Nintendo does it. We have a Wii and I think it is a piece of crap as I've mentioned before. My daughter likes it, but she actually likes her gamecube games more.

For example, she likes Mario Party GC better then Marior Party Wii. She likes Super Mario Strikers GC more the Super Mario Strikers on Wii.

The controller scheme is crap.

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Are the pinks(Coral) really that hard to find? At last check my store still has 5. And we've had at least that many in stock for forever.


Question for anyone that knows: Whats the hardware/chip/whatever difference in the 399 PS3 and the older 60&80gb PS3s besides the 60&80s ability to do emulation of PS2?

Are the 399s any step up in design and reliability like the new 360 on the shelves are?

The 40 GB PS3s has improved bluetooth so the controllers don't randomly disconnect from the console as often. But yeah, you lose backwards compatibility.

I don't think reliability was ever a concern with the console, unlike the 360.

[Big Fo]

From a conference call/interview with Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime-

Regarding shortages

The fact of the matter is that this shortfall benefits no-one. Enough systems would make everyone, including me, much happier. We’re taking steps that we hope will alleviate frustration, at least for some consumers. Along with the retailer GameStop, we’re announcing a rain check program that will guarantee consumers can get a Wii after Christmas. Consumers who purchase an out of stock Wii on December 20th or 21st with a full payment of $249.99 will receive a Wii raincheck certificate while supplies last. This certificate guarantees them a Wii system some time in January. These Wii systems must be picked up by January 29th.

On the userbase

Our internal research shows that the average age of all Wii players is 29 years old. On the other hand, the vast majority of these people who’ve purchased a system are, so far, active or "core" players. They’re the ones willing to wait in line outside of retailers before dawn. So we’re only seeing a small tip of the iceberg in terms of actually selling systems to those expanded players.

On Super Mario Galaxy and software sales

I find it hard to believe that almost a 1.2 million unit sell-through could be in any way disappointing. The fact is this: we sold over six million pieces of software for the Wii system during the month of November. If you look at it strictly on that month basis, that’s over a 6-to-1 attach, which is very, very strong. The level of sell-through of software pushed up our overall attach rate to above the level of PS2 at the same time in its life cycle. So the facts are these: that consumers are buying software, they’re buying software consistent with historical measures and that is phenomenal, given our push toward an expanded audience. So as we sit here today, we are quite satisfied with the level of software sell-through, we expect December to be another strong month and specifically as far as Super Mario Galaxy, a game that last time I checked was scored about a 97 on Metacritic, and is nip and tuck for one of the best-rated games of the year. We are tremendously satisfied with the performance of that title.

I can't wait for the first YouTube video of some kids getting an IOU for a Wii on Christmas morning

The software tie ratio is pretty interesting as well.

[stevew]

That software Tie rate is bullshit if they consider Wii Zapper and Wii Play to actually be "software."

[MJ4H]

Again, the Wii Zapper is basically a game with a piece of plastic to hold your wii-mote in. It is much more software than Wii Play (which is closer to a free game with your extra wii-mote).

[Daimyo]

I didn't realize the pink DSs were scarce. Last Christmas I wanted to get a DS for my mother-in-law and pink was the ONLY color I could find anywhere!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

That's unfair - I think he's PR, but the worldwide numbers are very interesting. If the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide, its worth noting.

Last month, the 360 had a worldwide sales lead of roughly 300K units. I think a shift of 350K units to where the PS3 now has a monthly lead of 50K units is certainly of note. As TroyF mentioned, 50K a month isn't going to win the war, but it's a move in the right direction for Sony.

The Wii situation has to be extremely frustrating for Nintendo. A shortage last year was understandable. A shortage this year is unacceptable. This is the year they should be cashing in on the hype by selling Wii's at what is still a high retail price. Instead, they can't keep units on the shelves. That's no longer a demand issue, that's poor planning by a very large company that should have handled this much better. They're going to make plenty of money, but they could have made MUCH more.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

What is the source of those worldwide numbers?

Media Create/Famitsu do the Japanese numbers. VGChartz compiles the sales numbers from the various PAL countries to create a composite number for that region.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Last month, the 360 had a worldwide sales lead of roughly 300K units. I think a shift of 350K units to where the PS3 now has a monthly lead of 50K units is certainly of note. As TroyF mentioned, 50K a month isn't going to win the war, but it's a move in the right direction for Sony.

The Wii situation has to be extremely frustrating for Nintendo. A shortage last year was understandable. A shortage this year is unacceptable. This is the year they should be cashing in on the hype by selling Wii's at what is still a high retail price. Instead, they can't keep units on the shelves. That's no longer a demand issue, that's poor planning by a very large company that should have handled this much better. They're going to make plenty of money, but they could have made MUCH more.

They don't need moves in the right direction, they need to start getting their market share back, ESPECIALLY in the US market. I don't care what anyone says about worldwide numbers, they all sell the same, blah, blah, blah. If you are third in the US market selling 300k less consoles than SECOND place, you are doomed for failure.

Yeah, it's worth nothing that Sony actually started selling consoles in Japan, a market they expected to seel this way a year ago when the console was released. But they are still in a horrific spot now.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by TroyF

They don't need moves in the right direction, they need to start getting their market share back, ESPECIALLY in the US market. I don't care what anyone says about worldwide numbers, they all sell the same, blah, blah, blah. If you are third in the US market selling 300k less consoles than SECOND place, you are doomed for failure.

Yeah, it's worth nothing that Sony actually started selling consoles in Japan, a market they expected to seel this way a year ago when the console was released. But they are still in a horrific spot now.

I generally find it amusing that no one in the October thread would buy into my statement that the PS3 would outsell the 360 in worldwide sales. Not one. Crazy talk. Now that it's happened, it's just a blip on the radar. An anomoly. Fair enough.

[SackAttack]

Wow. Are you telling me the PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 by 10 million units last month?

Or are you banking on a potential one-month anomaly yourself to make you "right"?

[Pacersfan46]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I generally find it amusing that no one in the October thread would buy into my statement that the PS3 would outsell the 360 in worldwide sales. Not one. Crazy talk. Now that it's happened, it's just a blip on the radar. An anomoly. Fair enough.

I could go back and look, but if I recall correctly the reason you predicted it was because of a lot of one time events. One time events don't equal a trend. Not to mention it was a very small amount. When you need multiple one time events to get 2nd place by a nose, you may have a problem.

Anytime Microsoft had a price drop in Japan, the sales went up for a little bit. Or when DOA3 came out, there was a sales spike. None of it lasted. One time events happen, and they don't win or lose the war. It just doesn't work that way.

-- Steve --