Crusader Kings Expansion

WSUCougar · 07-31-2007, 09:41 PM

WOOT!

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Paradox Interactive announced today an expansion pack to Crusader Kings, their grand strategy game for players vying to create the most powerful dynasty of medieval Europe.

Play as the leader of a glorious dynasty in the period of 1066 to 1453 A.D. Your task? Amass prestige; increase the greatness of your lands and your treasure coffins, build Cathedrals and Castles, appoint vassals and battle traitors, introduce laws and set taxes while interacting with hundreds of courtiers and nobles.

In addition to a graphical overhaul to increase player experience, the epic and intense strategy expansion Deus Vult brings:
Various added inter-character relations, representing loyalty inside courts, relations between countries, as well as friends and rivals for all characters. No longer will realms just fall apart, a beleaguered King will always have friends who will support him. Also beware as your smoothly running realm could run into trouble when your nice loyal vassal becomes your rival.

Introduction of new gameplay aspects like the stability affecting realms, numerous traits for characters and options for diplomacy, such as the possibility to send fosterlings to other courts. Plus an all-new system for children. No longer will a 3 year old be able to run a realm effectively. Children are all now born with 0 stats and then develop over childhood. You'll never know how good your heir will be until he matures.

A revised interface to streamline gameplay, with several completely redesigned windows. Immediate alert icons highlight immediate problems with your realm and a full ledger with more than a dozen detailed pages.

A variety of new events as well as a substantial amount of changes and improvements to the tools used by modders.
Deus Vult is scheduled for a release in late September, 2007 and will be available through digital download on GamersGate. The game will retail for $14.99/€14.99.

MrBug708 · 07-31-2007, 09:48 PM

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

MrBug708 · 07-31-2007, 09:48 PM

Dola

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Izulde · 07-31-2007, 09:49 PM

Praise be!!!!

Blade6119 · 07-31-2007, 09:49 PM

*cries* Im just soooo happy *sobs*

Izulde · 07-31-2007, 09:51 PM

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=315820 <--- screenshots!

Izulde · 07-31-2007, 10:01 PM

The developer's teaser from that thread.

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Had a fun test-run on my second pc this afternoon as the Duke of Moray...

Took me 8 bloody years, but after that, there were no more Kingdom of Scotland, and we were all old ruled from London.

Siding with my rival when he insults me in front of the royal court was not a terribly bright idea of the King of Scotland. Dropped me to low stability, and I had a duke and the king as my rivals.. and my only friend the petty norwegian count of Shetland, and of course he was not useful to get as an ally.

So I did what all people do in those circumstances.. Pledged allegiance to England, and sent my oldest daughter as a fosterling to the English court.

And then declared war on my rival... And my liege in England helped.

Now, I'm an old man, but ruling over half of the scottish part of England, with 2 vassals in Ulster and Mar.... Only bad thing is that my only living son is both blind and a coward... And my daughter at the english court only befriend lesser courtiers.. damn her..

MrBug708 · 07-31-2007, 10:06 PM

Obviously CK2 would have been prefered, but this is like 1A instead of #1 on my list. I've probably played CK more then any game not named CM/FM or TCY

gi · 08-01-2007, 07:38 AM

Hopefully you will not need the orginal CD, as I just lost it and believe it was thrown out.

MrBug708 · 08-01-2007, 04:06 PM

Woooooooooooooooo

(I Love this game)

Groundhog · 08-01-2007, 05:34 PM

I've never played CK, but I might go grab it at lunch if I can find it in any of the stores. Is there warfare in the game, and if so, is it EU-esque?

Izulde · 08-01-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I've never played CK, but I might go grab it at lunch if I can find it in any of the stores. Is there warfare in the game, and if so, is it EU-esque?

There's warfare, yes and it's somewhat along the EU vein in that you move your troops to their intended locations but don't physically control them in battle.

However, your only control over your troop mix is in the realm laws you choose, so you don't actually buy and raise troops yourself--it happens automatically.

You can research different military technologies, though, which have various improvement effects on different parts of your army (i.e knights, heavy cavalry, light infantry, etc).

You may want to check the CK dynasties on the Paradox boards and look for some gameplay ones, too.

Or you can ask those of us who are CK addicts on the board here questions.

path12 · 08-01-2007, 05:58 PM

The Paradox games should be right up my alley, but I haven't gotten hooked by one yet. This was the closest, but man, it seemed to just be a matter of waiting most of the time. I was never strong enough to invade anyone successfully, and other than trying to build what I could in my provinces I didn't know what to do.

Groundhog · 08-01-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

There's warfare, yes and it's somewhat along the EU vein in that you move your troops to their intended locations but don't physically control them in battle.

However, your only control over your troop mix is in the realm laws you choose, so you don't actually buy and raise troops yourself--it happens automatically.

You can research different military technologies, though, which have various improvement effects on different parts of your army (i.e knights, heavy cavalry, light infantry, etc).

You may want to check the CK dynasties on the Paradox boards and look for some gameplay ones, too.

Or you can ask those of us who are CK addicts on the board here questions.

Ahhh nice, the underlined part REALLY interests me in particular. This is something that I wish more strategy games did, as it's a hell of a lot more realistic.

Groundhog · 08-01-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

The Paradox games should be right up my alley, but I haven't gotten hooked by one yet. This was the closest, but man, it seemed to just be a matter of waiting most of the time. I was never strong enough to invade anyone successfully, and other than trying to build what I could in my provinces I didn't know what to do.

After messing about with EUIII for awhile, I know what you mean. I played EUIII all the way through once with Scotland and had a lot of fun, but the problem with not using one of the big nations is that there is just a heck of a lot of waiting around and doing nothing - especially with the very small nations. Realistic, but not a lot of fun.

I found myself craving a game that dealt more with the ruler and his heirs and political intrigue within my own country. Combining that with the fact that I definately prefer the time frame CK is set in with regards to European history, so it basically sounds like exactly the game I've been looking for!

Neon_Chaos · 08-01-2007, 11:36 PM

Oh yeah, this is going to rock.

Groundhog · 08-01-2007, 11:41 PM

Damn. Did a tour of every PC Game store in the Sydney CBD but not a single one had Crusader Kings. Ended up buying it online for $13AU incl. shipping, but now I gotta wait a few days for it to show up.

MrBug708 · 08-01-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Oh yeah, this is going to rock.

I was waiting for you to chime in on this thread

path12 · 08-02-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I found myself craving a game that dealt more with the ruler and his heirs and political intrigue within my own country. Combining that with the fact that I definately prefer the time frame CK is set in with regards to European history, so it basically sounds like exactly the game I've been looking for!

Me too. I think court intrigues are fascinating. Fantastic game subject if you do it right.

Neon_Chaos · 08-02-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I was waiting for you to chime in on this thread

I <3 Crusader Kings

Blade6119 · 08-02-2007, 02:08 AM

my only hope, as i loved CK, is that they simplify finding a wife...it was way too time consuming

Neon_Chaos · 08-02-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

my only hope, as i loved CK, is that they simplify finding a wife...it was way too time consuming

I would love to have an in-game bridefinder which takes into consideration the prestige of the mates, their standing in society, geograpic location and general stance between lieges.

Calis · 08-02-2007, 11:03 AM

Somehow I've never picked this one up. Is this just EU in the middle ages? I think I read on another board a description of it as more of a Role-playing Dynasty management sim than a EU3 type game. Is this true? If so, I'm in.

WSUCougar · 08-02-2007, 06:38 PM

Yes, definitely more of a dynasty thing. The goal of the game is to perpetuate your royal lineage; in fact, if you die without an heir, you're done (although you can always switch realms).

Izulde · 08-03-2007, 12:44 PM

Slight adjustment:

If you die without an heir as your same last dynasty name, you lose the game.

Unless you have no heirs at all, including non-dynasty heirs, in which case you get a country cousin (scrubby ruler with your dynasty's last name)

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2007, 12:53 PM

I should really pick up this game on the cheap, as I have LOVED playing Medieval II:Total War with the "Blood, Broads, Bastards" mod, which seems to make it resemble CK (as much as it probably could).

Is it available for DL?

MrBug708 · 08-03-2007, 12:54 PM

Not always Izulde. If you are the Germans then it goes to the next in line for the courts. You can also have a different last name depending on if the kingdom can be passed on maternally and to the strongest son.

Barkeep49 · 08-03-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I should really pick up this game on the cheap, as I have LOVED playing Medieval II:Total War with the "Blood, Broads, Bastards" mod, which seems to make it resemble CK (as much as it probably could).

Is it available for DL?

Yes. Check out gamersgate

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yes. Check out gamersgate

I hate you. Do you just want me to do NO work today on my "work from home" day?

Mustang · 08-03-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yes. Check out gamersgate

I echo the sentiments of DT.

Thanks...

Sporkimata · 08-03-2007, 01:33 PM

Well from what I gleaned from looking at the paradox forums, the new ledger screen will let you sort brides by stats etc. So it should make bride finding much much easier.

Barkeep49 · 08-03-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I hate you. Do you just want me to do NO work today on my "work from home" day?

They don't pay you enough anyway.

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

They don't pay you enough anyway.

true. But the more I work, the more potential we have to get paid. And really getting seriously paid would be nice!

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2007, 09:39 PM

I asked BK and he said he didn't know: does the game behave well with alt-tab and/or windowed mode??

I tend to do 98% of my gameplaying while multitasking, so this is pretty much a necessity

Izulde · 08-03-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I asked BK and he said he didn't know: does the game behave well with alt-tab and/or windowed mode??

I tend to do 98% of my gameplaying while multitasking, so this is pretty much a necessity

Never tried windowed mode and I don't even know if it's available.

I alt-tab out of it all the time though, because I'm playing at the same time I write my dynasty updates.

I would strongly suggest that you pause the game before alt-tabbing though, which is what I do. My suspicion is that as long as you pause it, you'll be fine, whereas if you leave it running, you could run the risk of a crash.

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Never tried windowed mode and I don't even know if it's available.

I alt-tab out of it all the time though, because I'm playing at the same time I write my dynasty updates.

I would strongly suggest that you pause the game before alt-tabbing though, which is what I do. My suspicion is that as long as you pause it, you'll be fine, whereas if you leave it running, you could run the risk of a crash.

thanks izulde. That's all I was waiting on!

Izulde · 08-03-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Not always Izulde. If you are the Germans then it goes to the next in line for the courts. You can also have a different last name depending on if the kingdom can be passed on maternally and to the strongest son.

Yeah and different last name = game over. It has to be the same last name as your dynasty or the game ends.

Which is why I always use some form of salic inheritance. Semi-salic is too damned risky.

TazFTW · 08-04-2007, 05:53 AM

GoGamer.com is currently selling Crusader Kings for $1.99.

http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.h...xtid=900080407

cougarfreak · 08-04-2007, 09:03 AM

Does anyone know if CK will work with Windows Vista? If so, I'm buying.

MrBug708 · 08-04-2007, 09:15 AM

Yes. I have it on Vista

cougarfreak · 08-04-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Yes. I have it on Vista

Thanks, I appreciate it.

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 09:52 AM

oh taz...you marvelous little man!

astrosfan64 · 08-04-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yes. Check out gamersgate

Where did you find Blood, Broads, Bastards mod?

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

Where did you find Blood, Broads, Bastards mod?

blood, broads, bastards is a mod for Medieval II: Total War.

It's available on the Total War Center Forums

astrosfan64 · 08-04-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

blood, broads, bastards is a mod for Medieval II: Total War.

It's available on the Total War Center Forums

Yeah, i was looking for it I just couldn't find it. But, I was checking the official forums let me try there instead.

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

Yeah, i was looking for it I just couldn't find it. But, I was checking the official forums let me try there instead.

it should be under the mods forum. Not to threadjack, but I have found that there are a couple solid "conversion mods" out there, and CA actually made it fairly easy to switch mods this time around. I have Stainless Steel and Lands to Conquer and The Long Road all installed. I find myself playing Stainless Steel the most (which includes blood, broads, bastards, as do the other two)

astrosfan64 · 08-04-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

it should be under the mods forum. Not to threadjack, but I have found that there are a couple solid "conversion mods" out there, and CA actually made it fairly easy to switch mods this time around. I have Stainless Steel and Lands to Conquer and The Long Road all installed. I find myself playing Stainless Steel the most (which includes blood, broads, bastards, as do the other two)

Daddy, I just downloaed stainless steel, do I need the ultimate AI mod for it as well? Or does SS come with ultimate ai mod?

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by astrosfan64

Daddy, I just downloaed stainless steel, do I need the ultimate AI mod for it as well? Or does SS come with ultimate ai mod?

I BELIEVE stainless incorporates the ultimate AI mod but I'm not sure. You'd hafta read the Stainless Steel thread, or check in the readme.

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 11:06 AM

anyways, BBB has totally made me want CK. I was all set to order from gamersgate last night, but how can I turn down $1.90 at gogamer?

astrosfan64 · 08-04-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

anyways, BBB has totally made me want CK. I was all set to order from gamersgate last night, but how can I turn down $1.90 at gogamer?

Yeah, I'm going to pick up CK myself. But, I'm going to wait till the expansion.

07-31-2007, 09:49 PM	#4
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Praise be!!!! __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

07-31-2007, 09:49 PM	#5
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	cries Im just soooo happy sobs __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

07-31-2007, 09:51 PM	#6
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=315820 <--- screenshots! __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

08-01-2007, 05:34 PM	#11
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I've never played CK, but I might go grab it at lunch if I can find it in any of the stores. Is there warfare in the game, and if so, is it EU-esque? __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

08-01-2007, 05:58 PM	#13
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	The Paradox games should be right up my alley, but I haven't gotten hooked by one yet. This was the closest, but man, it seemed to just be a matter of waiting most of the time. I was never strong enough to invade anyone successfully, and other than trying to build what I could in my provinces I didn't know what to do. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-31-2007, 09:48 PM	#2
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

07-31-2007, 10:06 PM	#8
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Obviously CK2 would have been prefered, but this is like 1A instead of #1 on my list. I've probably played CK more then any game not named CM/FM or TCY

08-01-2007, 07:38 AM	#9
gi College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkley, MI	Hopefully you will not need the orginal CD, as I just lost it and believe it was thrown out.

08-01-2007, 04:06 PM	#10
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Woooooooooooooooo (I Love this game)

08-01-2007, 11:36 PM	#16
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Oh yeah, this is going to rock. __________________ Come and see.

08-01-2007, 11:41 PM	#17
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Damn. Did a tour of every PC Game store in the Sydney CBD but not a single one had Crusader Kings. Ended up buying it online for $13AU incl. shipping, but now I gotta wait a few days for it to show up. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

08-02-2007, 02:08 AM	#21
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	my only hope, as i loved CK, is that they simplify finding a wife...it was way too time consuming __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-02-2007, 11:03 AM	#23
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Somehow I've never picked this one up. Is this just EU in the middle ages? I think I read on another board a description of it as more of a Role-playing Dynasty management sim than a EU3 type game. Is this true? If so, I'm in.

08-02-2007, 06:38 PM	#24
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Yes, definitely more of a dynasty thing. The goal of the game is to perpetuate your royal lineage; in fact, if you die without an heir, you're done (although you can always switch realms). __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

08-03-2007, 12:44 PM	#25
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Slight adjustment: If you die without an heir as your same last dynasty name, you lose the game. Unless you have no heirs at all, including non-dynasty heirs, in which case you get a country cousin (scrubby ruler with your dynasty's last name) __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

08-03-2007, 12:53 PM	#26
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I should really pick up this game on the cheap, as I have LOVED playing Medieval II:Total War with the "Blood, Broads, Bastards" mod, which seems to make it resemble CK (as much as it probably could). Is it available for DL?

08-03-2007, 12:54 PM	#27
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Not always Izulde. If you are the Germans then it goes to the next in line for the courts. You can also have a different last name depending on if the kingdom can be passed on maternally and to the strongest son.

08-03-2007, 01:33 PM	#31
Sporkimata High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kennewick WA	Well from what I gleaned from looking at the paradox forums, the new ledger screen will let you sort brides by stats etc. So it should make bride finding much much easier.

08-03-2007, 09:39 PM	#34
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I asked BK and he said he didn't know: does the game behave well with alt-tab and/or windowed mode?? I tend to do 98% of my gameplaying while multitasking, so this is pretty much a necessity

08-04-2007, 05:53 AM	#38
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	GoGamer.com is currently selling Crusader Kings for $1.99. http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.h...xtid=900080407 __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

08-04-2007, 09:03 AM	#39
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	Does anyone know if CK will work with Windows Vista? If so, I'm buying.

08-04-2007, 09:15 AM	#40
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Yes. I have it on Vista

08-04-2007, 09:52 AM	#42
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	oh taz...you marvelous little man!

08-04-2007, 11:06 AM	#49
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	anyways, BBB has totally made me want CK. I was all set to order from gamersgate last night, but how can I turn down $1.90 at gogamer?

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