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Moron with Drug Resistant TB Gets on Plane, CDC Looking for people now
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Thank god it has a low communicability rate. His quote almost tells me just what kind of person he is: Quote:
There seem to be 3 easy points here: 1) I love that he has to tell everyone he's a successful, educated, and intelligent person. Clearly not the case 2) Again, he takes issue with the fact that he's quarantined despite only having issues with the "whole solitary-confinement-in-Italy thing" - no remorse or anything; he thinks this is just a minor disagreement of issues, not a "Oh crap, I could kill people", in his words, "thing". 3) Oh, and clearly he forgot that he was told to not travel and did it anyways. And then did it again. It's going to be some jackass like this who is patient zero in any major plague. SI
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05-30-2007, 11:26 PM | #2 |
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Like we needed another reason to avoid successful, educated, and intelligent people.
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05-31-2007, 02:29 AM | #3 |
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If someone told me that they would 'prefer' it if I canceled my wedding in Paris and stay home, I would probably tell them thanks, but no thanks. If the situation was as serious as they now make it out to be, he should have been put in solitary confinement right away. After he had been contacted in Italy I don't know what he was thinking, but it's possible that he had a good reason for thinking the way that he did.
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This fact puts the kibosh on his whole "I had no idea that I was not actually allowed to fly; I thought that it was just a suggestion" excuse. If he knew enough to fly into Canada to circumvent the government, then he knew enough to know that he was not allowed to fly. |
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05-31-2007, 01:12 PM | #6 |
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So am I right in thinking he's a Naval Academy dropout?
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I agree with this. This was his wedding and honeymoon, and it seems like it was a pretty elaborate/expensive trip, probably nonrefundable. If some government guys told me it "probably wasn't a good idea to travel", but didn't order me to do anything, I felt fine, and had treatement lined up in Denver when I returned, I'd take the trip. |
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05-31-2007, 02:24 PM | #8 |
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He's a lawyer.
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Yep. Maybe we can buy it for the initial leg of the trip, but after he was contacted in Italy to turn himself in and then found out he was on the no-fly list, sorry... doesn't work.
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It was a selfish move, but not completely unreasonable. He didn't want to end up quarantined in Italy. In your head, if you thought you increase your chances of survival by say, 25%, by increasing the risk of contaminating people on a plane by maybe >.01%, it's not a ridiculous decision. Last edited by molson : 05-31-2007 at 03:21 PM. |
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05-31-2007, 07:11 PM | #11 | |
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Which would be legit... if he was a doctor and he wasn't just pulling stats out of his backside. Not his call to make, it's the doctor's. SI
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Aside from him being a personal injury lawyer, the second most entertaining part to come out of this story from today:
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That next family gathering's going to be a bit awkward. SI
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Bueller .... Bueller ... Bueller ...
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With the picture, his douche level tripled.
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As said, when he'd have some proof of such claims then perhaps it isn't unreasonable. When the doctor, who you'd think would KNOW BETTER than the lawyer about these things tells the lawyer to stay put... yeah, it's completely unreasonable. It isn't exactly like Italy is a 3rd world country.
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http://www.ajc.com/health/content/he...04speaker.html
Tuberculosis patient's disease less severe than thought By CRAIG SCHNEIDER, ALISON YOUNG The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 07/03/07 The Atlanta man who set off an international scare while traveling with what federal officials said was a highly feared form of tuberculosis actually has a less severe form of the disease, his doctors said today. Andrew Speaker previously had been classified with the form of TB considered most difficult to treat — called extensively drug resistant or XDR TB — and had been scheduled to undergo lung surgery this month. But doctors at National Jewish Medical and Research Center in Denver said today that recent testing shows Speaker may now be treated with medications previously thought ineffective against his disease. As a result, they reclassified his condition as multi-drug-resistant tuberculosis. They have changed his medication and put on hold a decision about his lung surgery. "His prognosis has improved," said Dr. Charles Daley, the hospital's head of infectious diseases. He added that "we may be able to treat him successfully without surgery." The cure rate for nonresistant strains of TB is about 90 percent, according to the American Lung Association, while those who have multi-drug-resistant TB or MDR TB have a cure rate of 50 percent or less. The World Health Organization, which counts about 424,000 new cases of MDR TB every year, says the cost of treating MDR TB can be 1,000 times more than treating standard TB. WHO says XDR TB first became apparent in March 2006 after researchers reported the highly resistant strains of the disease. Six months later, a cluster of "virtually untreatable" XDR TB cases was reported in an area of South Africa with a high prevalence of HIV. All but one of the 53 patients died in an average of 25 days after they were tested for drug resistance. WHO estimates the spread of the disease to equal about 25,000 to 30,000 new cases of XDR TB every year, with 37 countries confirming cases of the disease. Speaker's earlier diagnosis of XDR TB was instrumental in setting off an international health scare last month, since Speaker had flown to Europe for his wedding and honeymoon. After that earlier diagnosis, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention held a press conference to announce that they had issued a rare federal isolation order against Speaker specifically because he had XDR TB. The CDC called for testing of passengers from several countries who were on the trans-Atlantic flights with Speaker. The National Jewish mycobacteriology laboratory conducted extensive drug-susceptibility tests on tuberculosis organisms taken from Speaker on three different occasions: April 25 in Atlanta, May 27 in New York, and June 1 in Denver. All three isolates indicated definite resistance to three first-line drugs for tuberculosis: isoniazid, rifampin and pyrazinamide. All the isolates, however, were susceptible to all the fluoroquinolone drugs (ofloxacin, levofloxacin, moxifloxacin and ciprofloxacin), and the injectable drugs (amikacin, kanamycin, and capreomycin). Results on all three samples were consistent for both testing methods used. Previous test results from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had indicated that Speaker's tuberculosis was resistant to the fluoroquinolones and to the injectable drug kanamycin, and was therefore classified as extensively drug resistant. "The new results indicate his tuberculosis is, instead, multi-drug-resistant," said a written hospital statement issued today. The statement was issued moments before a press conference. CDC spokesman Tom Skinner declined to comment until after the news conference this afternoon. The Speaker case set off a furor in the United States, as well as in Italy, in Greece and at the World Health Organization. Three congressional committees are investigating because serious questions were raised about how Fulton County and Georgia state health officials and the CDC handled the case before he left the U.S. for his wedding abroad. They also are questioning how Speaker managed to get back into the country despite the flagging of his passport and addition of his name to a no-fly list. Before leaving the United States, Speaker was diagnosed with the serious, but slightly less difficult to treat form of TB, called multi-drug-resistant TB. When he was later diagnosed with the more serious form of the disease, CDC Director Julie Gerberding said that while the risk of transmission was small because Speaker had no symptoms and was not coughing, the risk wasn't zero and said the extreme difficulty of finding antibiotics to effectively treat XDR TB made the international alerts and precautions necessary. Doctors at National Jewish Medical and Research Center, considered world experts in treating drug-resistant TB, had been planning to remove part of Speaker's TB-infected lung to reduce the area of infection that is being treated with antibiotics. Speaker has never had any symptoms or cough. His TB was only identified by chance: Doctors in January saw a spot on his lung after he had an x-ray for an injury.
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