Billy Joel 1, QS 0

Draft Dodger · 02-05-2007, 06:58 AM

overheard at the DD household last night...

"Daddy, what song are they singing?"
"It's the National Anthem, Graham"
"Oh" *long pause* "I don't know what that is"
"Well, it's the song for our country"
"You mean, it's country music?"
"Something like that..."
"Good. I love country music"

Ksyrup · 02-05-2007, 07:02 AM

Billy Joel can sing any kind of music, and he does it with a sincerity and passion that makes you believe he was born to sing that particular kind of music.

Ain't that right, QS?

I didn't even turn on the game until about a minute before kickoff, so I missed Mr. Joel, sadly.

wade moore · 02-05-2007, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Billy Joel can sing any kind of music, and he does it with a sincerity and passion that makes you believe he was born to sing that particular kind of music.

Ain't that right, QS?

I didn't even turn on the game until about a minute before kickoff, so I missed Mr. Joel, sadly.

As someone that doesn't mind Billy Joel, I thought it was pretty bad.

Ksyrup · 02-05-2007, 07:07 AM

Even the best have off nights now and then.

QuikSand · 02-05-2007, 07:21 AM

I demand a recount.

rowech · 02-05-2007, 07:22 AM

I love Billy Joel but he was terrible last night.

Toddzilla · 02-05-2007, 07:33 AM

At least he had the stones to sing it live and not go pre-recorded. He sounded horrible, but he gets props for doing it right.

Ksyrup · 02-05-2007, 07:39 AM

If a professional singer sounds horrible, you can only give them so much credit for "keeping it real," can't you? I guess the decision to take the girls out to play in the snow after dinner paid off doubly for me - quality family time AND didn't have to hear BJ sing.

Subby · 02-05-2007, 07:39 AM

I don't think he has the voice for that type of song, to be honest...

cuervo72 · 02-05-2007, 07:40 AM

Were it an audition, Simon would have ripped him apart.

Bee · 02-05-2007, 07:42 AM

I don't hate Billy Joel or anything, but who thought he was a good choice to sing the National Anthem? I'm no expert but on first hearing he was doing it I thought it was a bad choice.

Toddzilla · 02-05-2007, 07:59 AM

Stevie Nicks,Billy Joel, and Prince.

Just who the hell does the NFL think is watching this game?

Raiders Army · 02-05-2007, 07:59 AM

I would've rather have heard Christie Brinkley sing it.

Rizon · 02-05-2007, 08:15 AM

Billy Joel was very, very off last night. My wife made a comment about how she hoped he wasn't driving.

*rimshot*

Rizon · 02-05-2007, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Stevie Nicks,Billy Joel, and Prince.

Just who the hell does the NFL think is watching this game?

Who knows. I'm also not sure what was up with that pregame show with all those hippie banner things and people dancing around. That was just some awful junk.

miami_fan · 02-05-2007, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

At least he had the stones to sing it live and not go pre-recorded. He sounded horrible, but he gets props for doing it right.

If he was going to sound that bad, I would have rather he pre-recorded.

cuervo72 · 02-05-2007, 08:26 AM

Oh - Stevie was pretty bad too. Definitely doesn't have the voice she used to.

Subby · 02-05-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Stevie Nicks,Billy Joel, and Prince.

Just who the hell does the NFL think is watching this game?

Prince kicked ass, yo.

Ksyrup · 02-05-2007, 08:31 AM

Actually, the answer to that question is... nearly everyone in the world is watching, and particularly that would include a bunch of 30-50 year olds who grew up listening to those acts and who have far more disposable income than teens and college kids.

Maybe JIMG can back me on this one, but that's why this makes sense. Same for whatever commercial used The Final Countdown music last night, too.

gstelmack · 02-05-2007, 08:45 AM

Just to show how different I am from the rest of this board and why I wonder why I even bother sometimes: I thought he did a decent job. Not only did he have the stones to sing it live, he sang it live while getting soaked by the rain. And I thought he sang it reasonably well. Especially compared to all those pop stars who have to make the song "theirs" and ruin it.

QuikSand · 02-05-2007, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

Billy Joel was very, very off last night. My wife made a comment about how she hoped he wasn't driving.

*rimshot*

Or polishing any furniture.

Bee · 02-05-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Oh - Stevie was pretty bad too. Definitely doesn't have the voice she used to.

I blame the 5 people she was smuggling into the game stuffed in her dress.

Warhammer · 02-05-2007, 08:51 AM

I love Billy Joel and thought it was terrible. I agree that I thought he was a bad choice for the anthem.

Ksyrup · 02-05-2007, 08:53 AM

Since the topic has turned to Stevie Nicks, it's always worthwhile to drudge this site back up:

hxxp://www.johannas-art.com/colourprints.htm

wade moore · 02-05-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Just to show how different I am from the rest of this board and why I wonder why I even bother sometimes: I thought he did a decent job. Not only did he have the stones to sing it live, he sang it live while getting soaked by the rain. And I thought he sang it reasonably well. Especially compared to all those pop stars who have to make the song "theirs" and ruin it.

I don't know how you can say he wasn't bad. If it was some ammateur or American Idol hopeful I'd say it was ok. But for a supposedly accomplished musician like Joel, it was terrible - without or without the rain (which btw, I'm not sure how that effects singing - just take Prince's performance as an example where it was raining MUCH harder).

RedKingGold · 02-05-2007, 09:22 AM

I think he sounded worse than he actually was because acoustic pianos are not meant to be out in the rain, making him sound more pitchy than he actually was.

However, its no excuse. It was a poor decision to follow through with having a piano out in the middle of the field. Joel's handlers should have figured out some other way to get Billy to sing without the accompaniment.

wade moore · 02-05-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I think he sounded worse than he actually was because acoustic pianos are not meant to be out in the rain, making him sound more pitchy than he actually was.

However, its no excuse. It was a poor decision to follow through with having a piano out in the middle of the field. Joel's handlers should have figured out some other way to get Billy to sing without the accompaniment.

A wet piano makes Joel's voice out of tune?

RedKingGold · 02-05-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

A wet piano makes Joel's voice out of tune?

To the casual observer at home who does not know much about music; the out-of-tune piano exaceberated the pitchiness as there was a basis of comparison between his notes and the piano's notes.

Basically, a gap between two notes is extremely noticable to an untrained ear whereas a gap between three notes (or half depending on key) is aestheically pleasing if actually wrong.

wade moore · 02-05-2007, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

To the casual observer at home who does not know much about music; the out-of-tune piano exaceberated the pitchiness as there was a basis of comparison between his notes and the piano's notes.

Basically, a gap between two notes is extremely noticable to an untrained ear whereas a gap between three notes (or half depending on key) is aestheically pleasing if actually wrong.

All fine and good.

Point still stands that the Piano didn't make him out of tune, he was just out of tune. It may have sounded worse because of the Piano, bu tit doesn't change the fact that he was a supposed accomplished music star who was totally out of tune.

RedKingGold · 02-05-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Point still stands that the Piano didn't make him out of tune, he was just out of tune. It may have sounded worse because of the Piano, bu tit doesn't change the fact that he was a supposed accomplished music star who was totally out of tune.

Agreed. Although I'm surprised how many people (Peter King, Don Banks, basically everyone over at SI) really liked his performance last night. Maybe it sounded better live?

If they were watching what I was watching, Joel was noticably bad (piano and voice).

wade moore · 02-05-2007, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Agreed. Although I'm surprised how many people (Peter King, Don Banks, basically everyone over at SI) really liked his performance last night. Maybe it sounded better live?

If they were watching what I was watching, Joel was noticably bad (piano and voice).

SI is tied to CBS, need I say more?

Ksyrup · 02-05-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

SI is tied to CBS, need I say more?

Yes, please. How are they tied - I thought they were tied to CNN, or at least, King tied to NBC. Not to mention, he thought Prince sucked but loved Billy Joel, so that sounds more like he is out of touch than a corporate shill.

wade moore · 02-05-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Yes, please. How are they tied - I thought they were tied to CNN, or at least, King tied to NBC. Not to mention, he thought Prince sucked but loved Billy Joel, so that sounds more like he is out of touch than a corporate shill.

Yeah, I need to back away slowly... I was tying SI to Sportsline instead of CNN, i just botched it..

But yeah, if he loved Joel and hated Prince, I think he just doesn't know what he's talking about (per usual).

Noop · 02-05-2007, 10:56 AM

I chuckled when I saw it was Billy Joel singing at the start of the game. I thought man Quiksand must be pissed right now.

markprior22 · 02-05-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Just to show how different I am from the rest of this board and why I wonder why I even bother sometimes: I thought he did a decent job. Not only did he have the stones to sing it live, he sang it live while getting soaked by the rain. And I thought he sang it reasonably well. Especially compared to all those pop stars who have to make the song "theirs" and ruin it.

Couldn't agree more or say it any better.

Hurst2112 · 02-05-2007, 11:23 AM

Billy had a helping hand in his performance...

http://www.antarestech.com/products/avp.shtml

Surtt · 02-05-2007, 12:54 PM

Does anyone know how long it was?
It seamed fairly short to me.
The over/under was 1:44.

Comey · 02-05-2007, 04:36 PM

We timed it at 1:38 (and I thought the O/U was 1:42). Either way, I took the under, and was happy with the decision (I did not bet on bodog, but I did take a side there).

Ksyrup · 05-03-2007, 08:20 AM

Not sure if this changes the score or not, but this should make QS feel better about his chances of running into a new song from his buddy any time soon.

NEW YORK (Billboard) -- Despite the recent digital release of "All My Life," Billy Joel's first new pop song in 14 years, the singer/songwriter says he doesn't foresee a re-opening of the creative floodgates that led to 33 Top 40 hits.

"I'm not ruling out the possibility of writing songs again," Joel tells Billboard.com. "I suppose if I had the motivation to write a song, I'm not gonna stop myself from doing it.
I just haven't felt the compulsion to write songs in pop form. I guess these days I just think of myself as a composer."

Joel's last album of original material, "River of Dreams," came out in 1993 and concluded with, appropriately, a track called "Famous Last Words." He released a classical album, "Fantasies & Delusions," in 2001.

He says he has "lots of thematic pieces" that he's composed in the Long Island, New York, home he shares with his third wife, culinary journalist Katie Lee Joel.

"All My Life" was something of a surprise. Joel composed it in 2005 as a first anniversary gift for his wife, with hopes that Tony Bennett would record it. He decided to make his own version for their second anniversary -- "Call me a cheapskate," he cracks -- and was surprised when Columbia Records executives campaigned to release it as a digital single.

And if nothing else, he notes, it's given him at least one new song to perform at his shows, although he wraps up his current road trek May 9 in St. Paul, Minnesota, and has no definite plans ahead of him.

"Look," Joel says, "I still love rock 'n' roll. I still love pop music. I haven't divorced myself from the material I wrote before. That's why I'm out here on the road playing this stuff. I still believe in it."

Passacaglia · 05-03-2007, 10:42 AM

culinary journalist?

JediKooter · 05-03-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

culinary journalist?

Billy Joel gives his wife 4 stars!

02-05-2007, 07:02 AM	#2
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Billy Joel can sing any kind of music, and he does it with a sincerity and passion that makes you believe he was born to sing that particular kind of music. Ain't that right, QS? I didn't even turn on the game until about a minute before kickoff, so I missed Mr. Joel, sadly. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

02-05-2007, 07:07 AM	#4
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Even the best have off nights now and then. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

02-05-2007, 07:39 AM	#9
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	If a professional singer sounds horrible, you can only give them so much credit for "keeping it real," can't you? I guess the decision to take the girls out to play in the snow after dinner paid off doubly for me - quality family time AND didn't have to hear BJ sing. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

02-05-2007, 07:39 AM	#10
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	I don't think he has the voice for that type of song, to be honest... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

02-05-2007, 07:40 AM	#11
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Were it an audition, Simon would have ripped him apart. __________________ null

02-05-2007, 07:21 AM	#6
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I demand a recount.

02-05-2007, 07:22 AM	#7
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I love Billy Joel but he was terrible last night.

02-05-2007, 07:33 AM	#8
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	At least he had the stones to sing it live and not go pre-recorded. He sounded horrible, but he gets props for doing it right.

02-05-2007, 07:42 AM	#12
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I don't hate Billy Joel or anything, but who thought he was a good choice to sing the National Anthem? I'm no expert but on first hearing he was doing it I thought it was a bad choice.

02-05-2007, 07:59 AM	#13
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Stevie Nicks,Billy Joel, and Prince. Just who the hell does the NFL think is watching this game?

02-05-2007, 07:59 AM	#14
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I would've rather have heard Christie Brinkley sing it.

02-05-2007, 08:26 AM	#18
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Oh - Stevie was pretty bad too. Definitely doesn't have the voice she used to. __________________ null

02-05-2007, 08:31 AM	#20
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Actually, the answer to that question is... nearly everyone in the world is watching, and particularly that would include a bunch of 30-50 year olds who grew up listening to those acts and who have far more disposable income than teens and college kids. Maybe JIMG can back me on this one, but that's why this makes sense. Same for whatever commercial used The Final Countdown music last night, too. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

02-05-2007, 08:45 AM	#21
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Just to show how different I am from the rest of this board and why I wonder why I even bother sometimes: I thought he did a decent job. Not only did he have the stones to sing it live, he sang it live while getting soaked by the rain. And I thought he sang it reasonably well. Especially compared to all those pop stars who have to make the song "theirs" and ruin it. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

02-05-2007, 08:51 AM	#24
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	I love Billy Joel and thought it was terrible. I agree that I thought he was a bad choice for the anthem.

02-05-2007, 08:53 AM	#25
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Since the topic has turned to Stevie Nicks, it's always worthwhile to drudge this site back up: hxxp://www.johannas-art.com/colourprints.htm __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

02-05-2007, 09:22 AM	#27
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I think he sounded worse than he actually was because acoustic pianos are not meant to be out in the rain, making him sound more pitchy than he actually was. However, its no excuse. It was a poor decision to follow through with having a piano out in the middle of the field. Joel's handlers should have figured out some other way to get Billy to sing without the accompaniment.

02-05-2007, 10:56 AM	#35
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I chuckled when I saw it was Billy Joel singing at the start of the game. I thought man Quiksand must be pissed right now. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

02-05-2007, 11:23 AM	#37
Hurst2112 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis	Billy had a helping hand in his performance... http://www.antarestech.com/products/avp.shtml __________________ http://www.myspace.com/longliveanalog Last edited by Hurst2112 : 02-05-2007 at 11:23 AM.

02-05-2007, 12:54 PM	#38
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Does anyone know how long it was? It seamed fairly short to me. The over/under was 1:44. __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

02-05-2007, 04:36 PM	#39
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	We timed it at 1:38 (and I thought the O/U was 1:42). Either way, I took the under, and was happy with the decision (I did not bet on bodog, but I did take a side there). __________________

05-03-2007, 08:20 AM	#40
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Not sure if this changes the score or not, but this should make QS feel better about his chances of running into a new song from his buddy any time soon. NEW YORK (Billboard) -- Despite the recent digital release of "All My Life," Billy Joel's first new pop song in 14 years, the singer/songwriter says he doesn't foresee a re-opening of the creative floodgates that led to 33 Top 40 hits. "I'm not ruling out the possibility of writing songs again," Joel tells Billboard.com. "I suppose if I had the motivation to write a song, I'm not gonna stop myself from doing it. I just haven't felt the compulsion to write songs in pop form. I guess these days I just think of myself as a composer." Joel's last album of original material, "River of Dreams," came out in 1993 and concluded with, appropriately, a track called "Famous Last Words." He released a classical album, "Fantasies & Delusions," in 2001. He says he has "lots of thematic pieces" that he's composed in the Long Island, New York, home he shares with his third wife, culinary journalist Katie Lee Joel. "All My Life" was something of a surprise. Joel composed it in 2005 as a first anniversary gift for his wife, with hopes that Tony Bennett would record it. He decided to make his own version for their second anniversary -- "Call me a cheapskate," he cracks -- and was surprised when Columbia Records executives campaigned to release it as a digital single. And if nothing else, he notes, it's given him at least one new song to perform at his shows, although he wraps up his current road trek May 9 in St. Paul, Minnesota, and has no definite plans ahead of him. "Look," Joel says, "I still love rock 'n' roll. I still love pop music. I haven't divorced myself from the material I wrote before. That's why I'm out here on the road playing this stuff. I still believe in it." __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-03-2007, 10:42 AM	#41
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	culinary journalist?

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