Monster fight in the Flasch household

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 04:03 PM

I dont even know where to begin were in the midst of it now, she's in the bathroom, but im sure ill be on here venting in a bit.

MikeVic · 01-03-2007, 04:04 PM

Paging translator!

Kidding. Hope it wasn't anything too serious.

Ksyrup · 01-03-2007, 04:06 PM

At least you got the strategic position from which to wage war.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-03-2007, 04:07 PM

Mrs. Eaglesfan and I had a "monster fight" about 3 months before our wedding where the whole thing was even called off for a few days. It all worked out in the end.

Mustang · 01-03-2007, 04:17 PM

LoneStarGirl · 01-03-2007, 04:23 PM

There are a lot of people in here waiting patiently to see how this turns out

sabotai · 01-03-2007, 04:32 PM

JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

Pumpy Tudors · 01-03-2007, 04:47 PM

I'm not leaving work until I get some news up in here.

GoldenEagle · 01-03-2007, 04:49 PM

In before the lock.

sachmo71 · 01-03-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

In before the lock.

I originally read this as "glock". Whew.

molson · 01-03-2007, 04:54 PM

It's tremendous that you thought of this while this is going on.

SirFozzie · 01-03-2007, 04:55 PM

she's probably in the bedroom right now, talking to her mom..

"And the worst part, he's probably talking about it with all his friends on that dork sports board..."

Huckleberry · 01-03-2007, 04:56 PM

SirFozzie nailed it.

Pumpy Tudors · 01-03-2007, 05:11 PM

Since Huckleberry is one of only two people on this board who know football, I'm taking his side on everything. Therefore, SirFozzie nailed it.

kingfc22 · 01-03-2007, 05:12 PM

I demand information.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 05:26 PM

So basically she has decided that she doesnt want to have a "big" wedding....however, she wants to not have a wedding at all. We could just go get the cert. cuz it doesnt matter.

Then she says she might want to start a new career in costume design for film, stage, & Television. I explain that that isnt really feasible in JAcksonville, fL as a career and she says she knows so she thought we could just move. I told her absolutely not, that when we first started dating I told her that I did the "move" thing, "chased the dream" and it made me realize how much I loved being here, around my friends and family....that she knew this.

I couldnt believe that this was even a thought process. I have been super supportive of all her pursuits but Im not willing to move to a new place, so she can pursue a new career, when Im exceedingly happy now, and ready start a family within a year or so.

Im just in shock, but I basically told her that she needed to decide if she was happy here or not and that if she wanted to go, than go. Im not mad but I dont want her staying here so that in some years she can resent me and whatever kids we might have in a "what couldve been moment."

Eaglesfan, any advice would be greatly helpful. Im not willing to move and when we first started dating I was abundantly clear about the "plan" and what it involved here.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 05:36 PM

EF, what do you do, continue to talk about it? I dont want to go through with it if she is even considering moving away...or is this most likely fleeting and I should close my eyes and walk blindly?

Pumpy Tudors · 01-03-2007, 05:36 PM

I don't have any specific advice, but at least it's a good thing that this came up before the wedding.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 05:37 PM

prenup

ISiddiqui · 01-03-2007, 05:39 PM

Yeah, absolutely...

Though it could be just nervousness, realizing that she'll be tied to Jacksonville forever. Perhaps it was just her thinking aloud and not really meaning it. I'd wait to see what happens in the next few days about this.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 05:46 PM

4.5 yrs and this shit. shocked, im like in a coma.....

spleen1015 · 01-03-2007, 05:47 PM

Keep talking about it, definitely.

NoMyths · 01-03-2007, 05:55 PM

Always a good idea to put geography above the heart of a woman who loves you.

NoMyths · 01-03-2007, 05:57 PM

dola...

That said, since her plans seem fairly theoretical, it seems like the idea of "starting a career in costume design" would be difficult to pull off anywhere. If she's seriously arguing for starting that career vs. a life in Jacksonville with you, it's not really about the career.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-03-2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

EF, what do you do, continue to talk about it? I dont want to go through with it if she is even considering moving away...or is this most likely fleeting and I should close my eyes and walk blindly?

I can't give you any professional type advice as there are way too many variables. I will say that my wife understood that I had no plans on moving from NJ when we started dating. She still understood that when we got married. Less than 2 years into the marriage, she was unhappy with NJ (the weather, missing her friends, missing her family, etc.) and wanting to return to her home state of Louisiana. I loved living in NJ, but I loved her more.

In general, I think it is good for couples to talk through their arguments, but if things are getting too heated, a break from the argument and resuming a dialogue when they have calmed down is usually good advice.

SirFozzie · 01-03-2007, 05:59 PM

(sighs)

Flasch, don't take this the wrong way man.. but.. you need to read the wedding vows thing again.

"For richer or poorer, for better or for worse.."

Not

"As long as she wants to stay where I'm comfortable"

If that connection is not there, maybe the relationship isn't destined to work real well...

I'm not saying you should break up or whatever, but definitely consider that a relationship HAS to be a two way street, and only from what you're telling me, it seems like it's two one way streets.

Good luck.

M GO BLUE!!! · 01-03-2007, 06:05 PM

Grab a beer & a microwave burrito.

Then play a game or two of FOF2k7 and enjoy the silence while she's locked in the john...

Cuckoo · 01-03-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Since Huckleberry is one of only two people on this board who know football, I'm taking his side on everything. Therefore, SirFozzie nailed it.

I just want to poke my head in here to say this is gold...

Karlifornia · 01-03-2007, 06:16 PM

Here's something that worked for me from personal experience.

Do you love her? If you do, then shave her head while she's asleep. Then, when she wakes up she finds a note you left on the nightstand reading:

"Nobody wants some crazy bald lady designing their costumes. Believe me, your mama already tried."

Mustang · 01-03-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

Grab a beer & a microwave burrito.

Then play a game or two of FOF2k7 and enjoy the silence while she's locked in the john...

I don't know if beer and burritos are the answer while your significant other is locked in the john is the answer...

Too easy for them to gain the upperhand.

Having said that, if you chased your dream and decided it wasn't for you but, she hasn't (and wants to), this is going to be an issue from now until forever.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 06:25 PM

It isnt about moving, it IS about wanting to start a family of our own around our two families. When things got serious we both agreed that this is what we wanted but now she is talking out of her ass about costume design but it is making me question her commitment to us (she has begun backpedaling). I told her Im totally supportive of everything she says she wants to do. I bought her a piano, I bought her a pottery wheel, I bought her lessons with her guitar, I helped her in everything she has wanted to do but when she says we can put off the wedding (she did say this), move somewhere else where she and I can start from scratch in this craziness, and then someday have a family (she's 27 now) is just asinine. It isnt about my love for her vs. a move from being comfortable....it is about the fulcrum of our goals plans and evolution together.

This is all the while that I have supported us solely while she started her venture into real estate, and am glad to do it because I know that it is for the betterment of hers and our future, and our kids someday....but to go on a lark and scrap everything is out of the question.

Daimyo · 01-03-2007, 06:30 PM

Marriage is all about dealing with shit like this and working out compromises. If you're willing to go to the power play over something like this, at this point in the relationship, IMO you really need to step back and re-evaluate things.

I think if you were really in love (the kind that can make a marriage last) you'd both be willing to make compromises over things like this for the other. Since neither of you appears willing to sacrifice for the other it is probably much better for both that you discovered this pre-marriage.

Mustang · 01-03-2007, 06:34 PM

Sounds as though she is all over the board on things and really doesn't know what she wants.

Well.. in the end, if you do compromise on this one, one of the stipulations of this would be that she would have to make a Slave Leia outfit for herself.

Butter · 01-03-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

now she is talking out of her ass about costume design

Make sure you put it just like that, that will totally help.

Deattribution · 01-03-2007, 06:37 PM

This is possibly the worst place to be asking for advice on potential marriage, and someone you love as a possible life partner.

Venting is one thing, but not only do most people here have different ideologies, none of them have any clue how you feel about her, or your current living situation beyond what you tell them.

Vent, then talk with one of your friends who knows your situation if you need, then talk with your fiancee. After that, think some more and if you feel like you need to make a decision, do it - but not in the heat of an argument.

edit - for some spelling fixes

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daimyo

Marriage is all about dealing with shit like this and working out compromises. If you're willing to go to the power play over something like this, at this point in the relationship, IMO you really need to step back and re-evaluate things.

I think if you were really in love (the kind that can make a marriage last) you'd both be willing to make compromises over things like this for the other. Since neither of you appears willing to sacrifice for the other it is probably much better for both that you discovered this pre-marriage.

She is backpedaling a bit and saying that I shouldnt put so much weight in it. I have suggested that she go to the local LC and look into different avenues and find something that she would like to do so that she can take night courses or whatever and pursue it. She is acting like this isnt a big deal and I am over-reacting (which is common - but I think there are some underlying statements that cause me some concern - rightfully so, i think).

jbmagic · 01-03-2007, 06:40 PM

Seems to be you looking for an excuse to get out of this relationship.

Look in the mirror.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 06:45 PM

I have convinced her that she should seek the local theaters and offer to work at night or days off in an apprentice sort of thing to see if it is realistic. I do NOT think that she will actually do this, but at least it has completely talked her off the ledge and she realizes that Im not against the career but that I am against a move. I dont know, I told her this makes me question her commitment to us and she said that Im totally over-reacting and she was simply thinking out loud. Scares the shit out of me though, and Im definitely back on the prenup idea, eventhough after 4.5 years I was not going to pursue one.

duckman · 01-03-2007, 06:48 PM

MacroGuru · 01-03-2007, 06:49 PM

When is the wedding date? Because what I am looking into this is someone sat down and some point within the last week and had an eye-opening moment.

That moment is, I am going to get married, have kids soon, and be a mother, I will be tied down and I don't know what to do, so she panics and you have what you have.

I have seen this happen several times with friends and their wives, mine did the same thing, but she was more afraid of my white trash family than anything else.

Sit and talk with her, work things out, but honestly based upon what you said you have both agreed upon what you have outlined, you have every right to stand fast to that.

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 06:56 PM

thank you, macro....that makes me feel better.

Duckman's drama photo with our past doesnt, especially considering all of the threads based on his ex-wife, son, and the lives that intertwine with his. I actually root for him in those, I wonder if he does the same in mine. what an asshole.

digamma · 01-03-2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

I have convinced her that she should seek the local theaters and offer to work at night or days off in an apprentice sort of thing to see if it is realistic. I do NOT think that she will actually do this, but at least it has completely talked her off the ledge and she realizes that Im not against the career but that I am against a move. I dont know, I told her this makes me question her commitment to us and she said that Im totally over-reacting and she was simply thinking out loud. Scares the shit out of me though, and Im definitely back on the prenup idea, eventhough after 4.5 years I was not going to pursue one.

Another idea, of course, is that Orlando is pretty close to you. If she turns out to be serious about it, there may be options closer than moving across the country.

KevinNU7 · 01-03-2007, 06:59 PM

Oh Snap!

Moss84 · 01-03-2007, 06:59 PM

I would break out the pottery wheel, throw a big chunk of clay on it, and put on the "Ghost" CD and discuss your goals again.

Draft Dodger · 01-03-2007, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

thank you, macro....that makes me feel better.

Duckman's drama photo with our past doesnt, especially considering all of the threads based on his ex-wife, son, and the lives that intertwine with his. I actually root for him in those, I wonder if he does the same in mine. what an asshole.

don't be a dick.

duckman · 01-03-2007, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

Duckman's drama photo with our past doesnt, especially considering all of the threads based on his ex-wife, son, and the lives that intertwine with his. I actually root for him in those, I wonder if he does the same in mine. what an asshole.

I'm only kidding, Flasch. I thought I lighten the mood up a little bit.

MacroGuru · 01-03-2007, 07:02 PM

Honestly, Flasch came on here with some help, even to vent...I see where he is coming from on the Duckman post...

edit: cause duckman came in and saved the day

GoldenEagle · 01-03-2007, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

my white trash family

Memphis, Tenn represented!

MacroGuru · 01-03-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Memphis, Tenn represented!

LOL! Actually that is where we had the Jerry Springer moment....at Pat O'Brians on Beale...but the White Trash side is here in Utah.....I actually have to say, My dad and sister that live there are not...although my sister has managed to find a few boyfriends that fit the bill.....

Flasch186 · 01-03-2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman

I'm only kidding, Flasch. I thought I lighten the mood up a little bit.

sorry, my antenna are way up....I apologize for not getting the motive. Sorry.

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01-03-2007, 04:04 PM	#2
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Paging translator! Kidding. Hope it wasn't anything too serious.

01-03-2007, 04:23 PM	#6
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	There are a lot of people in here waiting patiently to see how this turns out

01-03-2007, 04:32 PM	#7
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01-03-2007, 04:54 PM	#11
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01-03-2007, 04:55 PM	#12
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01-03-2007, 05:11 PM	#14
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01-03-2007, 05:12 PM	#15
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01-03-2007, 05:26 PM	#16
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	So basically she has decided that she doesnt want to have a "big" wedding....however, she wants to not have a wedding at all. We could just go get the cert. cuz it doesnt matter. Then she says she might want to start a new career in costume design for film, stage, & Television. I explain that that isnt really feasible in JAcksonville, fL as a career and she says she knows so she thought we could just move. I told her absolutely not, that when we first started dating I told her that I did the "move" thing, "chased the dream" and it made me realize how much I loved being here, around my friends and family....that she knew this. I couldnt believe that this was even a thought process. I have been super supportive of all her pursuits but Im not willing to move to a new place, so she can pursue a new career, when Im exceedingly happy now, and ready start a family within a year or so. Im just in shock, but I basically told her that she needed to decide if she was happy here or not and that if she wanted to go, than go. Im not mad but I dont want her staying here so that in some years she can resent me and whatever kids we might have in a "what couldve been moment." Eaglesfan, any advice would be greatly helpful. Im not willing to move and when we first started dating I was abundantly clear about the "plan" and what it involved here. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL Last edited by Flasch186 : 01-03-2007 at 05:27 PM.

01-03-2007, 05:36 PM	#17
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	EF, what do you do, continue to talk about it? I dont want to go through with it if she is even considering moving away...or is this most likely fleeting and I should close my eyes and walk blindly? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

01-03-2007, 05:37 PM	#19
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	prenup __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

01-03-2007, 05:39 PM	#20
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, absolutely... Though it could be just nervousness, realizing that she'll be tied to Jacksonville forever. Perhaps it was just her thinking aloud and not really meaning it. I'd wait to see what happens in the next few days about this. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-03-2007, 05:46 PM	#21
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	4.5 yrs and this shit. shocked, im like in a coma..... __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

01-03-2007, 05:47 PM	#22
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Keep talking about it, definitely.

01-03-2007, 05:55 PM	#23
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	Always a good idea to put geography above the heart of a woman who loves you.

01-03-2007, 05:57 PM	#24
NoMyths Poet in Residence Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charleston, SC	dola... That said, since her plans seem fairly theoretical, it seems like the idea of "starting a career in costume design" would be difficult to pull off anywhere. If she's seriously arguing for starting that career vs. a life in Jacksonville with you, it's not really about the career.

01-03-2007, 05:59 PM	#26
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	(sighs) Flasch, don't take this the wrong way man.. but.. you need to read the wedding vows thing again. "For richer or poorer, for better or for worse.." Not "As long as she wants to stay where I'm comfortable" If that connection is not there, maybe the relationship isn't destined to work real well... I'm not saying you should break up or whatever, but definitely consider that a relationship HAS to be a two way street, and only from what you're telling me, it seems like it's two one way streets. Good luck. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

01-03-2007, 06:05 PM	#27
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	Grab a beer & a microwave burrito. Then play a game or two of FOF2k7 and enjoy the silence while she's locked in the john...

01-03-2007, 06:16 PM	#29
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Here's something that worked for me from personal experience. Do you love her? If you do, then shave her head while she's asleep. Then, when she wakes up she finds a note you left on the nightstand reading: "Nobody wants some crazy bald lady designing their costumes. Believe me, your mama already tried." __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

01-03-2007, 06:25 PM	#31
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	It isnt about moving, it IS about wanting to start a family of our own around our two families. When things got serious we both agreed that this is what we wanted but now she is talking out of her ass about costume design but it is making me question her commitment to us (she has begun backpedaling). I told her Im totally supportive of everything she says she wants to do. I bought her a piano, I bought her a pottery wheel, I bought her lessons with her guitar, I helped her in everything she has wanted to do but when she says we can put off the wedding (she did say this), move somewhere else where she and I can start from scratch in this craziness, and then someday have a family (she's 27 now) is just asinine. It isnt about my love for her vs. a move from being comfortable....it is about the fulcrum of our goals plans and evolution together. This is all the while that I have supported us solely while she started her venture into real estate, and am glad to do it because I know that it is for the betterment of hers and our future, and our kids someday....but to go on a lark and scrap everything is out of the question. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL Last edited by Flasch186 : 01-03-2007 at 06:28 PM.

01-03-2007, 06:30 PM	#32
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Marriage is all about dealing with shit like this and working out compromises. If you're willing to go to the power play over something like this, at this point in the relationship, IMO you really need to step back and re-evaluate things. I think if you were really in love (the kind that can make a marriage last) you'd both be willing to make compromises over things like this for the other. Since neither of you appears willing to sacrifice for the other it is probably much better for both that you discovered this pre-marriage.

01-03-2007, 06:34 PM	#33
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Sounds as though she is all over the board on things and really doesn't know what she wants. Well.. in the end, if you do compromise on this one, one of the stipulations of this would be that she would have to make a Slave Leia outfit for herself. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

01-03-2007, 06:37 PM	#35
Deattribution College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	This is possibly the worst place to be asking for advice on potential marriage, and someone you love as a possible life partner. Venting is one thing, but not only do most people here have different ideologies, none of them have any clue how you feel about her, or your current living situation beyond what you tell them. Vent, then talk with one of your friends who knows your situation if you need, then talk with your fiancee. After that, think some more and if you feel like you need to make a decision, do it - but not in the heat of an argument. edit - for some spelling fixes Last edited by Deattribution : 01-03-2007 at 06:42 PM.

01-03-2007, 06:40 PM	#37
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Seems to be you looking for an excuse to get out of this relationship. Look in the mirror.

01-03-2007, 06:45 PM	#38
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	I have convinced her that she should seek the local theaters and offer to work at night or days off in an apprentice sort of thing to see if it is realistic. I do NOT think that she will actually do this, but at least it has completely talked her off the ledge and she realizes that Im not against the career but that I am against a move. I dont know, I told her this makes me question her commitment to us and she said that Im totally over-reacting and she was simply thinking out loud. Scares the shit out of me though, and Im definitely back on the prenup idea, eventhough after 4.5 years I was not going to pursue one. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

01-03-2007, 06:49 PM	#40
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	When is the wedding date? Because what I am looking into this is someone sat down and some point within the last week and had an eye-opening moment. That moment is, I am going to get married, have kids soon, and be a mother, I will be tied down and I don't know what to do, so she panics and you have what you have. I have seen this happen several times with friends and their wives, mine did the same thing, but she was more afraid of my white trash family than anything else. Sit and talk with her, work things out, but honestly based upon what you said you have both agreed upon what you have outlined, you have every right to stand fast to that. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

01-03-2007, 06:56 PM	#41
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	thank you, macro....that makes me feel better. Duckman's drama photo with our past doesnt, especially considering all of the threads based on his ex-wife, son, and the lives that intertwine with his. I actually root for him in those, I wonder if he does the same in mine. what an asshole. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL Last edited by Flasch186 : 01-03-2007 at 06:57 PM.

01-03-2007, 06:59 PM	#43
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01-03-2007, 06:59 PM	#44
Moss84 n00b Join Date: Apr 2005	I would break out the pottery wheel, throw a big chunk of clay on it, and put on the "Ghost" CD and discuss your goals again.

01-03-2007, 07:02 PM	#47
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Honestly, Flasch came on here with some help, even to vent...I see where he is coming from on the Duckman post... edit: cause duckman came in and saved the day __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future" Last edited by MacroGuru : 01-03-2007 at 07:02 PM.