MNF: Raiders vs. Seahawks

PSUColonel · 11-06-2006, 02:16 PM

Pick em

Eaglesfan27 · 11-06-2006, 02:17 PM

I'll choose Heroes instead, thanks.

Seriously, this is the first MNF game this year, that I have almost no interest in watching. I think the Seahawks even with Wallace in there will beat the Raiders by at least two touchdowns.

rkmsuf · 11-06-2006, 02:18 PM

Scoreless tie where Thiesmann falls out of the booth to his ultimate demise.

johnnyshaka · 11-06-2006, 02:19 PM

I hope Tony pushes him...now THAT'S MUST SEE TV!!!!

Ksyrup · 11-06-2006, 02:20 PM

It's football and nothing else is on...I'll be watching. As long as the Raiders lose, I don't care by how much. The worse the score or more humiliating the defeat, the bigger my smile.

Butter · 11-06-2006, 02:21 PM

Sounds like a downright miserable game to watch. I'll be watching my DVR'd MLS Western Conf. final game instead.

Raiders Army · 11-06-2006, 03:27 PM

I will be watching, of course.

kingfc22 · 11-06-2006, 08:15 PM

5 sacks allowed by the Raiders already. And we still have 3 quarters to go. LMAO!

cartman · 11-06-2006, 08:50 PM

Missed it, and didn't see any replays. What was the deal with the unsportsmanlike conduct call on the Raiders on the Seattle FG attempt?

TazFTW · 11-06-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Missed it, and didn't see any replays. What was the deal with the unsportsmanlike conduct call on the Raiders on the Seattle FG attempt?

Apparently defensive players cannot make 'hut' sounds to cause the Oline to false start. The referee would have to hear the defensive player making such sounds to throw the flag.

cartman · 11-06-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Apparently defensive players cannot make 'hut' sounds to cause the Oline to false start. The referee would have to hear the defensive player making such sounds to throw the flag.

Ah, I see. That's one of those rarely called penalties that probably happens several times a game. Thanks for the update.

bhlloy · 11-06-2006, 09:11 PM

Tom Walsh should be fired at half time. The line clearly can't block long enough for Walter to drop back, go through his progressions and find an open guy. So how many screens, slants and quick routes have the Raiders called so far? How many draw plays? There may be a reason he ran a bed & breakfast in Idaho for the last 7 years.

k0ruptr · 11-06-2006, 10:19 PM

JESUS i just got home and see that walter has been sacked 9 times so far. that is crazy

Deattribution · 11-06-2006, 10:24 PM

ESPN.com's desperation headline -

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Will Seattle set a record for sacks in an NFL game? Will Oakland score? Will it stop raining? See, there are reasons to watch MNF (ESPN Live). Hey, the Raiders might rally, down 13-0 to the Seahawks.

TazFTW · 11-06-2006, 10:41 PM

Knee to the groin!

ISiddiqui · 11-06-2006, 10:42 PM

With the Raiders there is always a reason to keep watching

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Rizon · 11-06-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Knee to the groin!

Typcal Faiders. What a team full of losers; coaches, players and ownership. Go back to LA, losers.

kingfc22 · 11-06-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

With the Raiders there is always a reason to keep watching

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HAHA. That knee to the groin was totally classless, but Stevens is a little bitch. Not sad to see him get a shot in the nuts.

Rizon · 11-06-2006, 10:43 PM

I'm not sure what's worse: the Faiders or the MNF booth. When The Boz showed up, that offically killed MNF for me. You just can't get any worse than that.

Vinatieri for Prez · 11-06-2006, 10:47 PM

Also, was that Christian Slater in the booth earlier. With Wilborn, that makes 3 guests in one night. This is just dumb.

ESPN has totally destroyed MNF.

Rizon · 11-06-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

Also, was that Christian Slater in the booth earlier. With Wilborn, that makes 3 guests in one night. This is just dumb.

ESPN has totally destroyed MNF.

Yes. Originally I was going to say having Slater on there ruined MNF forever, but then they brought the Boz. ESPN should just stay away from sports forever. Or maybe this is the future of sports. Or maybe it's the sports of now. Either way, I'm probably going to get into crocheting now.

Mustang · 11-06-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

Also, was that Christian Slater in the booth earlier. With Wilborn, that makes 3 guests in one night. This is just dumb.

ESPN has totally destroyed MNF.

I thought the only people that brought Christian Slater in for anything lately was the police...

bhlloy · 11-06-2006, 11:04 PM

I thought Slater was coked up on air, he kept making strange whooping noises when anything happened on the field and just seemed very jumpy and excitable overall.

The whole presentation is just so gimmicky and Kornheiser and Theismann are so bad - for ESPN's flagship program it's pretty unbelievable they can't do a better job. Why do all the good announcers get the crappy local games when there are Madden and Theismann doing the flagship games? Makes very little sense to me.

miami_fan · 11-07-2006, 05:33 AM

Where are the FOFC media folks? There has to be some study or research out there that shows a significant ratings boost when they bring these folks into the booth. I can accept Wilbon to a point, but Slater? Boz? When was the last time Boz was significant in football?

Raiders Army · 11-07-2006, 06:52 AM

I could see if Slater's favorite team was the Seahawks or Raiders. He said his favorite team was the Jets. Why even have him in the booth other than hype his movie?

Ksyrup · 11-07-2006, 06:55 AM

Zero points, 9 sacks, keystone cops offense, and a suspendable cheap shot. Yep, it was worth watching the Raiders!

Ksyrup · 11-07-2006, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I thought Slater was coked up on air, he kept making strange whooping noises when anything happened on the field and just seemed very jumpy and excitable overall.

The whole presentation is just so gimmicky and Kornheiser and Theismann are so bad - for ESPN's flagship program it's pretty unbelievable they can't do a better job. Why do all the good announcers get the crappy local games when there are Madden and Theismann doing the flagship games? Makes very little sense to me.

We have this discussion nearly every week. Programs like Monday Night Football are not just for sports fans. It was considered, when on ABC, and now on ESPN, to be a prime-time show. The object of the show is to get as many people to watch as possible. That means not just you and I, but the Dancing With the Stars crowd, or any other demographic that might not otherwise watch a football game, while throwing a bone to the sports fan with the actual game. That's just how it is. It's a rating play, because the MNF franchise exploded years ago into an "American Institution," meaning network executives are going to try to capitalize on that by making it an entertainment show based on a football game.

Deal with it, or don't watch it.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-07-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

We have this discussion nearly every week. Programs like Monday Night Football are not just for sports fans. It was considered, when on ABC, and now on ESPN, to be a prime-time show. The object of the show is to get as many people to watch as possible. That means not just you and I, but the Dancing With the Stars crowd, or any other demographic that might not otherwise watch a football game, while throwing a bone to the sports fan with the actual game. That's just how it is. It's a rating play, because the MNF franchise exploded years ago into an "American Institution," meaning network executives are going to try to capitalize on that by making it an entertainment show based on a football game.

Deal with it, or don't watch it.

Honest questions here: Did ESPN even advertise before the game that Christian Slater was going to be a guest? If yes, did they tell people at what point during the game that Christian Slater was going to be a guest? If yes, how many people from the "non-sports fan" demographic actually watched the first 1.5 quarters so they could see Christian Slater as a guest?

If the answer is "no" to any of the above questions, I think ESPN struck out last night when they tried to appeal to Hollywood fans who don't care for football.

Kodos · 11-07-2006, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Deal with it, or don't watch it.

That's much better than demanding to the network that the football game coverage actually deals with the football.

Mustang · 11-07-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Honest questions here: Did ESPN even advertise before the game that Christian Slater was going to be a guest? If yes, did they tell people at what point during the game that Christian Slater was going to be a guest? If yes, how many people from the "non-sports fan" demographic actually watched the first 1.5 quarters so they could see Christian Slater as a guest?

If the answer is "no" to any of the above questions, I think ESPN struck out last night when they tried to appeal to Hollywood fans who don't care for football.

Good questions. Does ESPN gain more non-football fans than they lose football fans doing this? I don't even bother with MNF now and I don't think I've ever met anyone that says they watch MNF for the guest stars.

Rizon · 11-07-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

We have this discussion nearly every week. Programs like Monday Night Football are not just for sports fans. It was considered, when on ABC, and now on ESPN, to be a prime-time show. The object of the show is to get as many people to watch as possible. That means not just you and I, but the Dancing With the Stars crowd, or any other demographic that might not otherwise watch a football game, while throwing a bone to the sports fan with the actual game. That's just how it is. It's a rating play, because the MNF franchise exploded years ago into an "American Institution," meaning network executives are going to try to capitalize on that by making it an entertainment show based on a football game.

Deal with it, or don't watch it.

A great example of this was the commercial that came on after the game. The one with the football guys dancing around like Riverdance or something, and then it went on talking about how football tries to play to all audiences, and then it changed to a look of horror from a husband and wife watching the game.

Since all sports seem to be heading in this direction, it's a huge turnoff for those of us that actually want to watch sports. And it's a big reason why I hardly find myself wanting to watch games anymore.

rkmsuf · 11-07-2006, 08:35 AM

Raiders are 2 for 2 in getting shutout during primetime.

Ksyrup · 11-07-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Honest questions here: Did ESPN even advertise before the game that Christian Slater was going to be a guest? If yes, did they tell people at what point during the game that Christian Slater was going to be a guest? If yes, how many people from the "non-sports fan" demographic actually watched the first 1.5 quarters so they could see Christian Slater as a guest?

If the answer is "no" to any of the above questions, I think ESPN struck out last night when they tried to appeal to Hollywood fans who don't care for football.

The simple answer is...we're largely talking about wives/GFs who are forced to watch the game with their husbands/BFs. So at some point in the second quarter of a crappy game that even the BF is having a hard time justifying watching, all of a sudden they trot Slater out there, and the GF says, "Ooh, wait, Christian Slater is on!" And that hooks her for a few more segments than they would have had if the BF decided he couldn't justify watching the game anymore (or he wanted to save some "football TV time" for better games next week).

By the time the 2nd half started, 75% of the women in the audience are asleep or damn near close, so they trot out Wilbon and Boz for the PTI and Stone Cold fans. I'm surprised they didn't get Bo Jackson out there, too, since that MNF Oak/Sea game was arguably his finest moment in pro football.

Izulde · 11-07-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Knee to the groin!

That was the most well-executed play by a Raider all game.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-07-2006, 10:14 AM

I didn't watch the game, but I thought this was one of the best bets all year. Glad I followed through since I very rarely bet on sports

SunDevil · 11-07-2006, 10:15 AM

It is good to see that ESPN has picked up and is carrying the torch from ABC of showing horrible match ups on a supposedly Primetime showcase games.

JediKooter · 11-07-2006, 10:33 AM

That knee to the nuts was about the only thing the Raiders were able to block the whole game.

Raiders Army · 11-07-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Raiders are 2 for 2 in getting shutout during primetime.

2 for 3. Scored 3 pts on the Broncos!

st.cronin · 11-07-2006, 04:39 PM

Andrew Walters may be a decent prospect, but he is getting ruined by the Raiders this year. They need to bench him asap.

Brillig · 11-07-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Andrew Walters may be a decent prospect, but he is getting ruined by the Raiders this year. They need to bench him asap.

Hah. You're talking like he needs to keep his spleen.

Raiders Army · 11-07-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Andrew Walters may be a decent prospect, but he is getting ruined by the Raiders this year. They need to bench him asap.

Agreed. I worried he'll turn into David Carr.

Rizon · 11-07-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Agreed. I worried he'll turn into David Carr.

No, because David Carr is still alive. At this rate Walters will die by extreme sacking by week 11.

jbmagic · 11-07-2006, 09:30 PM

3 sacks on one series wow.

1st down sack, 2nd down sack and 3rd down sack.

I never seen that before.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-08-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

3 sacks on one series wow.

1st down sack, 2nd down sack and 3rd down sack.

I never seen that before.

Keep watching the Raiders this year, and you'll see it again.

And again.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-08-2006, 08:35 AM

And again.

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11-06-2006, 02:17 PM	#2
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'll choose Heroes instead, thanks. Seriously, this is the first MNF game this year, that I have almost no interest in watching. I think the Seahawks even with Wallace in there will beat the Raiders by at least two touchdowns. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 11-06-2006 at 02:18 PM.

11-06-2006, 02:18 PM	#3
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Scoreless tie where Thiesmann falls out of the booth to his ultimate demise. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-06-2006, 02:19 PM	#4
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	I hope Tony pushes him...now THAT'S MUST SEE TV!!!! Last edited by johnnyshaka : 11-06-2006 at 02:19 PM.

11-06-2006, 02:20 PM	#5
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	It's football and nothing else is on...I'll be watching. As long as the Raiders lose, I don't care by how much. The worse the score or more humiliating the defeat, the bigger my smile. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 11-06-2006 at 02:20 PM.

11-06-2006, 02:21 PM	#6
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Sounds like a downright miserable game to watch. I'll be watching my DVR'd MLS Western Conf. final game instead. __________________ My listening habits

11-06-2006, 03:27 PM	#7
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I will be watching, of course.

11-06-2006, 08:15 PM	#8
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	5 sacks allowed by the Raiders already. And we still have 3 quarters to go. LMAO! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-06-2006, 08:50 PM	#9
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Missed it, and didn't see any replays. What was the deal with the unsportsmanlike conduct call on the Raiders on the Seattle FG attempt? __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-06-2006, 09:11 PM	#12
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Tom Walsh should be fired at half time. The line clearly can't block long enough for Walter to drop back, go through his progressions and find an open guy. So how many screens, slants and quick routes have the Raiders called so far? How many draw plays? There may be a reason he ran a bed & breakfast in Idaho for the last 7 years.

11-06-2006, 10:19 PM	#13
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	JESUS i just got home and see that walter has been sacked 9 times so far. that is crazy __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

11-06-2006, 10:41 PM	#15
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Knee to the groin! __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

11-06-2006, 10:42 PM	#16
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	With the Raiders there is always a reason to keep watching . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-06-2006, 10:47 PM	#20
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Also, was that Christian Slater in the booth earlier. With Wilborn, that makes 3 guests in one night. This is just dumb. ESPN has totally destroyed MNF.

11-06-2006, 11:04 PM	#23
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I thought Slater was coked up on air, he kept making strange whooping noises when anything happened on the field and just seemed very jumpy and excitable overall. The whole presentation is just so gimmicky and Kornheiser and Theismann are so bad - for ESPN's flagship program it's pretty unbelievable they can't do a better job. Why do all the good announcers get the crappy local games when there are Madden and Theismann doing the flagship games? Makes very little sense to me.

11-07-2006, 05:33 AM	#24
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Where are the FOFC media folks? There has to be some study or research out there that shows a significant ratings boost when they bring these folks into the booth. I can accept Wilbon to a point, but Slater? Boz? When was the last time Boz was significant in football? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

11-07-2006, 06:52 AM	#25
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I could see if Slater's favorite team was the Seahawks or Raiders. He said his favorite team was the Jets. Why even have him in the booth other than hype his movie?

11-07-2006, 06:55 AM	#26
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Zero points, 9 sacks, keystone cops offense, and a suspendable cheap shot. Yep, it was worth watching the Raiders! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-07-2006, 08:35 AM	#32
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Raiders are 2 for 2 in getting shutout during primetime. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-07-2006, 10:14 AM	#35
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I didn't watch the game, but I thought this was one of the best bets all year. Glad I followed through since I very rarely bet on sports __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-07-2006, 10:33 AM	#37
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	That knee to the nuts was about the only thing the Raiders were able to block the whole game. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

11-07-2006, 04:39 PM	#39
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Andrew Walters may be a decent prospect, but he is getting ruined by the Raiders this year. They need to bench him asap. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

11-07-2006, 09:30 PM	#43
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	3 sacks on one series wow. 1st down sack, 2nd down sack and 3rd down sack. I never seen that before.

11-08-2006, 08:35 AM	#45
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