Demo FM2007 Thread: Downloading and Gameplay Discussion: ((It's Out Early!!!))

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 03:33 PM

In about 2 and a half hours, or midnight British time, SI Games will release the six month demo of FM2007. Getting this thread started early,to get the discussion going.

WHOEVER gets the demo quickly, please throw a link to it one of the download services (megaupload/yousendit etcetera to try to speed up things on our side)

It feels like christmas morning...

Here's what the two demos will have for quickstarts:

Vanilla demo = one league (England)
Strawberry demo = 11 leagues (England, Scotland, Brazil, Denmark, Finland, France, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Spain & Sweden).

cartman · 09-30-2006, 03:33 PM

Hopefully the torrents get seeded quickly.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 03:35 PM

They announced that not only will there be torrents, but a traditional download service as well (and no, it won't be SI Games bandwidth hosting it)

FrogMan · 09-30-2006, 03:41 PM

they used rapidshare for EHM and it seemed to go at a reasonable speed... Looking forward to this, had almost forgotten about it... shame on me...

FM

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 04:06 PM

HOLYYYYYY PENISSSSSSS. I'M SO HAPPY!!!!

Celeval · 09-30-2006, 04:08 PM

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 05:11 PM

Gentlemen, start your downloads.

(from the SI Games boards)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles Jacobsen

The PC & Mac demo's for FM2007 are now ready to go live, a little earlier than anticipated.

The demo's come in 2 different versions for each platform.

PC Vanilla - This file only includes English language, and the English league, with no kits, player photo's, sound, graphics etc.

Mac Vanilla - This file only includes English language, and the English league, with no kits, player photo's, sound, graphics etc.

PC Strawberry - This file includes playable leagues from Brazil, Denmark, England, Finland, France, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Scotland, Spain & Sweden, and Danish, English, Spanish, French, Italian, Dutch, Norweigan, Portuguese & Swedish languages, with all relevant kits, player photo's and graphics.

Mac Strawberry - This file includes playable leagues from Brazil, Denmark, England, Finland, France, Italy, Norway, Portugal, Scotland, Spain & Sweden, and Danish, English, Spanish, French, Italian, Dutch, Norweigan, Portuguese & Swedish languages, with all relevant kits, player photo's and graphics.

The vanilla downloads are 66.45MB for Mac, and just under 80MB for PC.

The strawberry downloads are 248.67MB for Mac, and 260.43MB for PC.

You can download these files now via the following methods.

PC Vanilla - go to the www.newsoftheworld.com and click on the link (AVAILABLE AT 1AM)!

PC Strawberry Download - available as a normal download via Rapidshare from http://rapidshare.de/files/34954410/...strawberry.zip. Please note that if you are not registered with Rapidshare, you can still download, although there will likely be a few minute wait before the file download starts (follow the onscreen prompts and choose the "free" option).

PC Strawberry Torrent - http://81.86.52.17:6969/torrents/fm2...E06551E3D5DABE - please ensure that you keep the torrent open after you've downloaded it for as long as possible.

Mac Vanilla Download - http://rapidshare.de/files/34952243/...mo_vanilla.dmg. Please note that if you are not registered with Rapidshare, you can still download, although there will likely be a few minute wait before the file download starts (follow the onscreen prompts and choose the "free" option).

Mac Vanilla Torrent - http://81.86.52.17:6969/torrents/fm2...F1B891B95CC2B2 - please ensure that you keep the torrent open after you've downloaded it for as long as possible.

Mac Strawberry Download - http://rapidshare.de/files/34958722/...strawberry.dmg. Please note that if you are not registered with Rapidshare, you can still download, although there will likely be a few minute wait before the file download starts (follow the onscreen prompts and choose the "free" option).

Mac Strawberry Torrent - http://81.86.52.17:6969/torrents/fm2...1B2298468E1CFD - please ensure that you keep the torrent open after you've downloaded it for as long as possible.

I will keep this post updated as and when mirrors start coming through - we've had a lot of offers for mirrors (46 sites!) so let's see if they all come through ;o)

IF YOU DOWNLOADED THE ILLEGALLY LEAKED VERSION OF THE DEMO, PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU DELETE IT FULLY AND INSTALL THE PROPER ONE. THE ONE YESTERDAY WILL CAUSE TECHNICAL PROBLEMS WITH THE FULL GAME UNLESS FULLY DELETED FROM YOUR SYSTEM DUE TO PROBLEMS WITH THE INSTALLER SYSTEM WITH THAT VERSION. WE WILL NOT BE OFFERING ANY TECHNICALLY SUPPORT ON THE LEAKED DEMO AS WE TOLD EVERYONE NOT TO DOWNLOAD IT.

cartman · 09-30-2006, 05:22 PM

Here's a good link for the PC Strawberry Torrent:

hxxp://81.86.52.17:6969/torrents/fm2007_demo_strawberry.zip.torrent?49E5974C6268D6717D4D34B4EFE06551E3D5DABE

dervack · 09-30-2006, 05:25 PM

Can't download at all.

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 05:31 PM

yeah. rapidshare is hosed

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 05:31 PM

Getting it from rapidshare.de, about 70 K/Second, an hour or two to go

cartman · 09-30-2006, 05:34 PM

The torrent is starting to ramp up in speed for me now. It's up to 85KB/sec right now.

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 05:38 PM

rapidshare strawberry is hosed i should say. at least for me, it keeps saying "server 9 is down for technical maintenence"

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 05:42 PM

hahah. from the SI forums

The rapidshare.de server holding the demo (server 9) has crashed due to overload of users trying to get it in one go.

Please be patient or use the torrent

dervack · 09-30-2006, 05:54 PM

The torrent link isn't working for me at all. Oh well. Maybe tomorrow or something

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 05:55 PM

I can just see it now..

SI: Ok.. we've uploaded the demo, hope you guys are ready for this..

RapidShare.De.. How you English say? No problem. We handle much more then you can believe. Do your worst.

SI: Ok, you asked for it.. (posts the address on the forums)

RapidShare.De: Silly brits, I mean, it's just a fussball gam..

(RapidShare.de's server suddenly combusts)

RapidShare.de VUSS IST DAS?????

SI: Tried to warn you, Jerry..

cartman · 09-30-2006, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dervack

The torrent link isn't working for me at all. Oh well. Maybe tomorrow or something

The link I provided isn't working? I'm showing 12 seeders and 740 peers right now.

Coder · 09-30-2006, 05:56 PM

got the strawberry torrent down in less than 10 minutes.. long live bittorrent

oh.. and I'm seeding now..

dervack · 09-30-2006, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

The link I provided isn't working? I'm showing 12 seeders and 740 peers right now.

Nope, not yet. I'll keep trying though.

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 06:07 PM

it APPEARS the rapidshare strawberry link is back up.

Qrusher14242 · 09-30-2006, 06:08 PM

damn, too bad Clearwire throttles torrents to shit

Getting 7k/sec from the torrent. Rapidshare link is down too

lol just as i wrote that the link started to work

jbmagic · 09-30-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dervack

Nope, not yet. I'll keep trying though.

You know you need a torrent client.

I recommend Utorrent.

dervack · 09-30-2006, 06:10 PM

No shit?

I'm not a moron jb, I'm using utorrent and probably knew about bit torrents before you did.

dervack · 09-30-2006, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

The link I provided isn't working? I'm showing 12 seeders and 740 peers right now.

Still trying, but it doesn't seem to want to download at all. I've got the rapidshare link working, so I guess we'll see which dl's the fastest.

It seems to have picked up some, but still pretty slow. Not sure what's going on since torrents usually go pretty quick for me.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:19 PM

Got it, it's so big, it'll take a day to get up on another uploader, but I'll try..

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 06:25 PM

the fmdanmark site is going to be <15 minutes for me, if someone wants to wait another 10 minutes or so to hit it though.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:34 PM

The quickstart seems much quicker.

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 06:35 PM

95% and drooling!

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:37 PM

Took Cambridge:

Prematch: Decided that against Gateshead, we should win (despite playing a risky 3-1-2-1-3, and told the team so.. interesting to see a prematch pep talk..

Yup, game is MUCH faster, at the highest match speed level it's nearly too fast.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:42 PM

more options in the halftime team talk: Now 7 (including reminding them this is a friendly, no pressure on them today)

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:45 PM

Sheesh, even if it was a friendly, what a game.. in my first friendly, we come back from two goals down (in the 24th minute), and scored three goals in the 2nd half to win 3-2.

All the goals were realistic.

hoosierdude · 09-30-2006, 06:47 PM

Update some of the training? Any changes there

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:50 PM

THere is at least some changes, the senior players and the youth players have their own tabs on the team page (so you can tweak your senior team's training, but let your coaches handle the kids.)

Cambridge had 26 players under main contract (full or part time) and 20 players under youth contracts.

Also, I love this addition.. the AM tells you how the team talk effected the team.. will upload some imageshack photos of this:

jbmagic · 09-30-2006, 06:52 PM

Does pep talk really affect how your team performs?

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:57 PM

Here they are:

Halftime

Fulltime

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Does pep talk really affect how your team performs?

see the halftime one, (I'll resize it) It gave folks a morale boost +... some of the players looked confused that I told them to win it pre game (c'mon coach.. it's a FRIENDLY type stuff)

jbmagic · 09-30-2006, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

see the halftime one, (I'll resize it) It gave folks a morale boost +... some of the players looked confused that I told them to win it pre game (c'mon coach.. it's a FRIENDLY type stuff)

Thats awesome.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 07:01 PM

I figure that I can answer questions for a while tonight if people want

DaddyTorgo · 09-30-2006, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I figure that I can answer questions for a while tonight if people want

i just DLed. I gotta go to quiznos and get dinner and then get a coffee so i can stay up all night with this baby and then i'll answer Q's too.

jbmagic · 09-30-2006, 07:03 PM

Sirfozzie

What take priority over the other? Individual player strategy or team strategy?

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 07:05 PM

Team Strategy by default, but if you set individual strategy, that will override the team strategy for that player only.

cartman · 09-30-2006, 07:06 PM

My torrent is completed as well. But since I had to get the Texas game on PPV, I'm gonna focus on watching the game. And since I have an actual soccer game to play in the morning, I probably won't check this out until tomorrow afternoon.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 07:09 PM

We lose 2-0 to Colchester, but really that was expected, they were a Championship side, and we're.. three levels below that :P

Nice crowd, 1353, which is realistic, while Colchesters up there, they don't have a huge travelling base, and there will be a few folks who will see the higher division guys come to play.

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 07:11 PM

I get a bid of 30K for one of my players, and I decide to stall the offer (delay, basically)

BigDPW · 09-30-2006, 07:11 PM

Found this link for those who are having trouble with others...

I am getting 440Kb/sec right now... and 20% done...

http://62.141.39.196/fm2007_demo_strawberry.zip
http://62.141.39.196/fm2007_demo_vanilla.zip

Have at it!!! Yipee!!!

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 07:14 PM

One interesting thing, I just noticed..

in my game against MK Dons, I noticed that players are warming up on the sideline (without me telling them to), during 2nd half action

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 07:49 PM

Wow: Here's an updated prematch report

bulletsponge · 09-30-2006, 08:38 PM

OMG! WTF am i doing here

*runs out to dl the demo*

SirFozzie · 09-30-2006, 08:40 PM

Another wow moment. in the 86th minute of Cambridge's league game, they got given a 50/50 call JUST inside the box and got a penalty, and that turned out to be the winning goal.

Two stories came out of this one:

1st one:

Cambridge was awarded a controversial penalty in the 87th minute during Southport's 1-2 English Conference National defeat against Cambridge.

Southport striker Francis Barry revealed after the match that he felt the penalty was a harsh decision for his team-mate Paul Martin.

Southport boss Paul Cook refused to openly criticise the referee after the match, claiming that he was not prepared to risk being reprimanded by the FA."

and it had a link to the replay of the disputed incident.

Then I received a media interaction:

CONTROVERSEY IN CAMBRIDGE GAME

You have been approached by a local newspaper:

Southport's Paul Martin was outraged that your team were awarded a penalty today. Did you feel it was a penalty?

Well, after viewing the incident again and again, and the text.. yeah.. I felt that we had gotten a gift, so I cautiously said that I did feel sorry for Southport, but the referee's decision was final.

Sweet.

RPI-Fan · 09-30-2006, 08:44 PM

Just dabbled so far:

-This is huge for me, but in the options you can choose what level of detail you want for various worldwide and continental competitions. That's a really nice feature, to me.
-Keyboard shortcuts, Woooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-30-2006, 03:33 PM	#2
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Hopefully the torrents get seeded quickly. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-30-2006, 03:35 PM	#3
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	They announced that not only will there be torrents, but a traditional download service as well (and no, it won't be SI Games bandwidth hosting it) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 03:41 PM	#4
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	they used rapidshare for EHM and it seemed to go at a reasonable speed... Looking forward to this, had almost forgotten about it... shame on me... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

09-30-2006, 04:08 PM	#6
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	w00t

09-30-2006, 05:22 PM	#8
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Here's a good link for the PC Strawberry Torrent: hxxp://81.86.52.17:6969/torrents/fm2007_demo_strawberry.zip.torrent?49E5974C6268D6717D4D34B4EFE06551E3D5DABE __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-30-2006, 04:06 PM	#5
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	HOLYYYYYY PENISSSSSSS. I'M SO HAPPY!!!!

09-30-2006, 05:25 PM	#9
dervack College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2005	Can't download at all.

09-30-2006, 05:31 PM	#10
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah. rapidshare is hosed

09-30-2006, 05:34 PM	#12
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The torrent is starting to ramp up in speed for me now. It's up to 85KB/sec right now. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 09-30-2006 at 05:34 PM.

09-30-2006, 05:38 PM	#13
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	rapidshare strawberry is hosed i should say. at least for me, it keeps saying "server 9 is down for technical maintenence"

09-30-2006, 05:42 PM	#14
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hahah. from the SI forums The rapidshare.de server holding the demo (server 9) has crashed due to overload of users trying to get it in one go. Please be patient or use the torrent

09-30-2006, 05:54 PM	#15
dervack College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2005	The torrent link isn't working for me at all. Oh well. Maybe tomorrow or something

09-30-2006, 05:55 PM	#16
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I can just see it now.. SI: Ok.. we've uploaded the demo, hope you guys are ready for this.. RapidShare.De.. How you English say? No problem. We handle much more then you can believe. Do your worst. SI: Ok, you asked for it.. (posts the address on the forums) RapidShare.De: Silly brits, I mean, it's just a fussball gam.. (RapidShare.de's server suddenly combusts) RapidShare.de VUSS IST DAS????? SI: Tried to warn you, Jerry.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 05:56 PM	#18
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	got the strawberry torrent down in less than 10 minutes.. long live bittorrent oh.. and I'm seeding now.. __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

09-30-2006, 06:07 PM	#20
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	it APPEARS the rapidshare strawberry link is back up.

09-30-2006, 06:08 PM	#21
Qrusher14242 High School JV Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Farmersville, CA	damn, too bad Clearwire throttles torrents to shit Getting 7k/sec from the torrent. Rapidshare link is down too lol just as i wrote that the link started to work Last edited by Qrusher14242 : 09-30-2006 at 06:08 PM.

09-30-2006, 06:10 PM	#23
dervack College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2005	No shit? I'm not a moron jb, I'm using utorrent and probably knew about bit torrents before you did.

09-30-2006, 06:19 PM	#25
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Got it, it's so big, it'll take a day to get up on another uploader, but I'll try.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 06:25 PM	#26
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	the fmdanmark site is going to be <15 minutes for me, if someone wants to wait another 10 minutes or so to hit it though.

09-30-2006, 06:34 PM	#27
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The quickstart seems much quicker. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 06:35 PM	#28
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	95% and drooling!

09-30-2006, 06:37 PM	#29
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Took Cambridge: Prematch: Decided that against Gateshead, we should win (despite playing a risky 3-1-2-1-3, and told the team so.. interesting to see a prematch pep talk.. Yup, game is MUCH faster, at the highest match speed level it's nearly too fast. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 06:42 PM	#30
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	more options in the halftime team talk: Now 7 (including reminding them this is a friendly, no pressure on them today) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 06:45 PM	#31
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Sheesh, even if it was a friendly, what a game.. in my first friendly, we come back from two goals down (in the 24th minute), and scored three goals in the 2nd half to win 3-2. All the goals were realistic. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 06:47 PM	#32
hoosierdude High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana	Update some of the training? Any changes there __________________ TC Dale "Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud - Sophocles" Last edited by hoosierdude : 09-30-2006 at 06:49 PM.

09-30-2006, 06:50 PM	#33
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	THere is at least some changes, the senior players and the youth players have their own tabs on the team page (so you can tweak your senior team's training, but let your coaches handle the kids.) Cambridge had 26 players under main contract (full or part time) and 20 players under youth contracts. Also, I love this addition.. the AM tells you how the team talk effected the team.. will upload some imageshack photos of this: __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 06:52 PM	#34
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Does pep talk really affect how your team performs?

09-30-2006, 06:57 PM	#35
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Here they are: Halftime Fulltime __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 09-30-2006 at 06:59 PM.

09-30-2006, 07:01 PM	#38
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I figure that I can answer questions for a while tonight if people want __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 07:03 PM	#40
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Sirfozzie What take priority over the other? Individual player strategy or team strategy?

09-30-2006, 07:05 PM	#41
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Team Strategy by default, but if you set individual strategy, that will override the team strategy for that player only. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 07:06 PM	#42
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	My torrent is completed as well. But since I had to get the Texas game on PPV, I'm gonna focus on watching the game. And since I have an actual soccer game to play in the morning, I probably won't check this out until tomorrow afternoon. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-30-2006, 07:09 PM	#43
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	We lose 2-0 to Colchester, but really that was expected, they were a Championship side, and we're.. three levels below that :P Nice crowd, 1353, which is realistic, while Colchesters up there, they don't have a huge travelling base, and there will be a few folks who will see the higher division guys come to play. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 07:11 PM	#44
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I get a bid of 30K for one of my players, and I decide to stall the offer (delay, basically) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-30-2006, 07:11 PM	#45
BigDPW College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC	Found this link for those who are having trouble with others... I am getting 440Kb/sec right now... and 20% done... http://62.141.39.196/fm2007_demo_strawberry.zip http://62.141.39.196/fm2007_demo_vanilla.zip Have at it!!! Yipee!!!