What did this clown do now?

Antmeister · 08-03-2006, 03:50 PM

Looks like our resident poster cheated in yet another league. I am surprised so many people agreed for him to come back. Sorry but this is not RailsFS, but our resident clown.

http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2156

Antmeister · 08-03-2006, 04:00 PM

Ok, that was foolish. They say that they didn't know if he cheated in the PFL and that is why they are considering the reinstatement. Oops.

sovereignstar · 08-03-2006, 04:03 PM

Anyone that believes Justin cheated on purpose is a fucking moron.

sovereignstar · 08-03-2006, 04:05 PM

And anyone that is in that shithole of a league will continue to be cast in a negative light to me. How anyone could even be a part of that league with some of the characters that have remained in that league is beyond me.

Pumpy Tudors · 08-03-2006, 04:08 PM

omg multiplayer fof drama

sovereignstar · 08-03-2006, 04:12 PM

-jshipman9476: i don't feel i cheated but whatever is best for the league...i understand

-They suspected me of cheating, a claim that I am NOT going to deny.

-My goal was to get caught and then drop or get kicked out of every league except the PFL. Then I could concentrate more time to the wife and a little more time to the PFL.

---

Right.

Subby · 08-03-2006, 04:15 PM

heh - when I first read that I thought you meant you didn't think he cheated at all...and you were the one who uncovered it.

BrianD · 08-03-2006, 04:17 PM

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I in no way want to come off as sounding like I think Justin will cheat again

"Once a cheater always a cheater"

Nice.

Mustang · 08-03-2006, 04:44 PM

*L*

I like this line...

'on one hand, richard nixon was pardoned but on the other milli vanilli never got another chance so I'm torn'

Joe · 08-03-2006, 05:31 PM

someone sent this to me yesterday:
"A guy comes onto AIM a while ago using the name PFLCheaters, tells me that Justin Shipman is already back in PFL using a new screen name and an ip masker as Titans Owner Romgrnt."

Now.. this guy is in like 5 leagues so... sounds like shipman. Any way to test it?

Ryan S · 08-03-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

someone sent this to me yesterday:
"A guy comes onto AIM a while ago using the name PFLCheaters, tells me that Justin Shipman is already back in PFL using a new screen name and an ip masker as Titans Owner Romgrnt."

Now.. this guy is in like 5 leagues so... sounds like shipman. Any way to test it?

I am about 99% certain that Romgrnt is Justin Shipman.

Joe · 08-03-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

I am about 99% certain that Romgrnt is Justin Shipman.

that is what my other information says as well

molson · 08-03-2006, 08:21 PM

It still boggles my mind that someone would cheat at a sports sim.

Fouts · 08-03-2006, 08:21 PM

This guy must love attention. Too bad it's all negative.

Iceman99 · 08-03-2006, 08:39 PM

Are you guys serious that he is using that screen name? If that is true I am so done with that league...

I joined PFL before the scandal and was just happy to own the Buc's.... But I will not play around with that crap...

Fonzie · 08-03-2006, 08:43 PM

Someone named RomGrnt recently took over the Toronto franchise in the FOFL.

Joe · 08-03-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman99

Are you guys serious that he is using that screen name? If that is true I am so done with that league...

I joined PFL before the scandal and was just happy to own the Buc's.... But I will not play around with that crap...

I guess it's quittin time

jamesUMD · 08-03-2006, 09:41 PM

I am pretty sure he's the Cowboy's in the Wigfl but I know now to watch the contracts. It'll be sweeter to be a cheater.

NickSaban · 08-03-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

I am about 99% certain that Romgrnt is Justin Shipman.

Ya'll may or may not know, but I'm the Admin of the PFL's website. That's an interesting allegation, but as of now, I don't believe it. The IPs don't match, and aren't even close. All of Justin's other handles have IP addresses that overlap.

If I had to guess, I would say that RomGrmt's ISP resets his IP address every so often, so he has a ton of (similar) IP addresses he has posted from, and he's probably posted a couple of times from another computer, be that work or a friend's house or something. My guess is that whoever it was that IM'd TexasGM is trying to take advantage of recent posts to stir up a little controversy.

Antmeister · 08-03-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NickSaban

Ya'll may or may not know, but I'm the Admin of the PFL's website. That's an interesting allegation, but as of now, I don't believe it. The IPs don't match, and aren't even close. All of Justin's other handles have IP addresses that overlap.

If I had to guess, I would say that RomGrmt's ISP resets his IP address every so often, so he has a ton of (similar) IP addresses he has posted from, and he's probably posted a couple of times from another computer, be that work or a friend's house or something. My guess is that whoever it was that IM'd TexasGM is trying to take advantage of recent posts to stir up a little controversy.

I believe jshipman already admitted to it according to this thread:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=51645

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To this point, he and I have traded PMs and he maintains that he is Grant Romero. Fair enough.

We are removing him from FOFL, effective immediately.

NickSaban · 08-03-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

I believe jshipman already admitted to it according to this thread:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=51645

Just caught that thread. Thanks for the heads up. I'm on it.

sovereignstar · 08-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Cheese dick sent an e-mail to Cringer on May 11th in hopes of getting back into the ImperialFL. Thank god our waiting list is about a half-dozen long.

Antmeister · 08-04-2006, 04:01 AM

Wow. What jshipman did was wrong, but isn't it a little drastic to change the name of the league because of a ridiculous cheater. Since he had joined a number of leagues under a different alias, I don't think what they are suggesting here is warranted:
http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2164

One of the GMs is even leaving the league. Damn.

NickSaban · 08-04-2006, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

Wow. What jshipman did was wrong, but isn't it a little drastic to change the name of the league because of a ridiculous cheater. Since he had joined a number of leagues under a different alias, I don't think what they are suggesting here is warranted:
http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2164

One of the GMs is even leaving the league. Damn.

Situation in the PFL is a little different than other leagues Justin was a part of, b/c not only was he part of our league, he was its founder and original commissioner. If he truly did come back as romgrnt, than it might be better just to flush the entire FOF community of what has been referred to as a tainted PFL and start from scratch. And besides, it would be fun to have a league with 2006 player files.

KODIAKBEAR · 08-04-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

And anyone that is in that shithole of a league will continue to be cast in a negative light to me. How anyone could even be a part of that league with some of the characters that have remained in that league is beyond me.

If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.

Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears

Pumpy Tudors · 08-04-2006, 08:01 AM

This is like the most serious dramabomb in the history of history.

rkmsuf · 08-04-2006, 08:03 AM

All I can envision are girly punches.

Hoya1 · 08-04-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KODIAKBEAR

If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.

Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears

The fact that the PFL has had more "cheating" going on by its participants does put your league in a negative light. The fact that there's even a vote to let the commissioner of cheaters back into your league does nothing to shed yourselves from this.

st.cronin · 08-04-2006, 09:13 AM

We need a class on comma usage. Summon: Quiksand.

Antmeister · 08-04-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NickSaban

Situation in the PFL is a little different than other leagues Justin was a part of, b/c not only was he part of our league, he was its founder and original commissioner. If he truly did come back as romgrnt, than it might be better just to flush the entire FOF community of what has been referred to as a tainted PFL and start from scratch. And besides, it would be fun to have a league with 2006 player files.

Uh wow! I haven't been keeping up with this stuff. I know of the FastFL and their issues, but I didn't read enough about the PFL. I mean I knew about the jshipman incident, but I didn't realize he was the founder. I also didn't realize that there was a history of having some cheaters in the league (well according to the other posts I am reading here). Damn.

QuikSand · 08-04-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

We need a class on comma usage. Summon: Quiksand.

Lost cause.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-04-2006, 09:35 AM

I have no idea what's going on.

Subby · 08-04-2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KODIAKBEAR

If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.

Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears

If you are going to post here more, then I think this whole drama is worth it.

Bee · 08-04-2006, 09:43 AM

I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth? Also, does that make sovereignstar gay?

edit: Not that there's anything wrong with that...

VPI97 · 08-04-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth?

He lost a bet with Suicane.

Quote:

Also, does that make sovereignstar gay?

Without question.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-04-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth? Also, does that make sovereignstar gay?

edit: Not that there's anything wrong with that...

He probably mistook it for Suicane's leauge. And, yes, I think it might. It makes him "bi" at the very least.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-04-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

He lost a bet with Suicane.

Without question.

Great minds, my friend. . . Great minds.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-04-2006, 09:48 AM

Dola

1...

2...

3...

JINX!

Anytime you make a post, you owe me a quarter until I release you from this jinx.

EagleFan · 08-04-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

It still boggles my mind that someone would cheat at a sports sim.

Originally it boggled my mind too, until I started running online leagues a few years back. I had to stop because I could no longer trust people online. I did get pretty good at sniffing out the serious ones, but that just made it more disturbing to me as there always seemed to be someone in the league who was cheating and that was ruining the integrity of the league as a whole (especially when trying a historical league in OOTP and teams were tanking it in years when there were big name players coming out the next year).

QuikSand · 08-04-2006, 09:58 AM

If anyone could grab an entire league with his mouth, you'd think it would be the bear guy. *shurg*

Fidatelo · 08-04-2006, 11:31 AM

So what is the FOFC username of this Justin guy? I just want to know who to call a douchebag next time he posts.

Pumpy Tudors · 08-04-2006, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

So what is the FOFC username of this Justin guy? I just want to know who to call a douchebag next time he posts.

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

Ksyrup · 08-04-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

This would have been much more entertaining coming from someone other than you.

Eaglesfan27 · 08-04-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

Pumpy Tudors · 08-04-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

This would have been much more entertaining coming from someone other than you.

I like to nip that shit in the bud.

cartman · 08-04-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

This would have been much more entertaining coming from someone other than you.

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

sovereignstar · 08-04-2006, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KODIAKBEAR

If you are talking about the PFL, then I resent the very lies that are coming out of your mouth/or terminal. You may have your opinions, but that does not make them facts for you to be calling a whole league and their owners names. "From the mouth the heart speaks" If anyones charecter should be in question it should be those who make false statements without knowing all the facts.

I respectfully request that you keep one of my leagues the PFL, if that is who you are refering to out of your mouth.

Sincerely Kodiakbear
PFL Chicago Bears

That's right Cochise, go eat some more fried bread.

Ksyrup · 08-04-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

OK, maybe I was wrong.

gottimd · 08-04-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I've heard that it starts with "P" and ends with "umpy Tudors."

Pete Grumpy Tudors?

CraigSca · 08-04-2006, 11:50 AM

Speaking of leagues...which was the one that was going to have a sim every 7 minutes? If they are intact, should they be in season 2,067 by now?

Also - rongrmt is in the NFLFO as the Tampa Bay GM. I'm going to give the Commish time to do something about this -- I hope he does the right thing.

08-03-2006, 04:00 PM	#2
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Ok, that was foolish. They say that they didn't know if he cheated in the PFL and that is why they are considering the reinstatement. Oops. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

08-03-2006, 04:08 PM	#5
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	omg multiplayer fof drama __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

08-03-2006, 04:15 PM	#7
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	heh - when I first read that I thought you meant you didn't think he cheated at all...and you were the one who uncovered it. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com Last edited by Subby : 08-03-2006 at 04:16 PM.

08-03-2006, 04:44 PM	#9
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	L I like this line... 'on one hand, richard nixon was pardoned but on the other milli vanilli never got another chance so I'm torn' __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

08-03-2006, 09:41 PM	#18
jamesUMD High School JV Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD	I am pretty sure he's the Cowboy's in the Wigfl but I know now to watch the contracts. It'll be sweeter to be a cheater. __________________ HailtotheRedskins!

08-03-2006, 04:03 PM	#3
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Anyone that believes Justin cheated on purpose is a fucking moron.

08-03-2006, 04:05 PM	#4
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	And anyone that is in that shithole of a league will continue to be cast in a negative light to me. How anyone could even be a part of that league with some of the characters that have remained in that league is beyond me.

08-03-2006, 04:12 PM	#6
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	-jshipman9476: i don't feel i cheated but whatever is best for the league...i understand -They suspected me of cheating, a claim that I am NOT going to deny. -My goal was to get caught and then drop or get kicked out of every league except the PFL. Then I could concentrate more time to the wife and a little more time to the PFL. --- Right.

08-03-2006, 05:31 PM	#10
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	someone sent this to me yesterday: "A guy comes onto AIM a while ago using the name PFLCheaters, tells me that Justin Shipman is already back in PFL using a new screen name and an ip masker as Titans Owner Romgrnt." Now.. this guy is in like 5 leagues so... sounds like shipman. Any way to test it?

08-03-2006, 08:21 PM	#13
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It still boggles my mind that someone would cheat at a sports sim.

08-03-2006, 08:21 PM	#14
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	This guy must love attention. Too bad it's all negative.

08-03-2006, 08:39 PM	#15
Iceman99 n00b Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Florida	Are you guys serious that he is using that screen name? If that is true I am so done with that league... I joined PFL before the scandal and was just happy to own the Buc's.... But I will not play around with that crap...

08-03-2006, 08:43 PM	#16
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Someone named RomGrnt recently took over the Toronto franchise in the FOFL.

08-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#22
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Cheese dick sent an e-mail to Cringer on May 11th in hopes of getting back into the ImperialFL. Thank god our waiting list is about a half-dozen long.

08-04-2006, 04:01 AM	#23
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Wow. What jshipman did was wrong, but isn't it a little drastic to change the name of the league because of a ridiculous cheater. Since he had joined a number of leagues under a different alias, I don't think what they are suggesting here is warranted: http://primetime-football-league.com...pic.php?t=2164 One of the GMs is even leaving the league. Damn. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

08-04-2006, 08:01 AM	#26
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	This is like the most serious dramabomb in the history of history. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

08-04-2006, 08:03 AM	#27
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	All I can envision are girly punches. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

08-04-2006, 09:13 AM	#29
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	We need a class on comma usage. Summon: Quiksand. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-04-2006, 09:35 AM	#32
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I have no idea what's going on. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

08-04-2006, 09:43 AM	#34
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I'm confused. Why did sovereignstar have Kodiakbear's league in his mouth? Also, does that make sovereignstar gay? edit: Not that there's anything wrong with that... Last edited by Bee : 08-04-2006 at 09:44 AM.

08-04-2006, 09:48 AM	#38
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Dola 1... 2... 3... JINX! Anytime you make a post, you owe me a quarter until I release you from this jinx. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

08-04-2006, 09:58 AM	#40
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	If anyone could grab an entire league with his mouth, you'd think it would be the bear guy. shurg

08-04-2006, 11:31 AM	#41
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	So what is the FOFC username of this Justin guy? I just want to know who to call a douchebag next time he posts. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

08-04-2006, 11:50 AM	#50
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Speaking of leagues...which was the one that was going to have a sim every 7 minutes? If they are intact, should they be in season 2,067 by now? Also - rongrmt is in the NFLFO as the Tampa Bay GM. I'm going to give the Commish time to do something about this -- I hope he does the right thing. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

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