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Old 02-05-2003, 06:21 AM   #1
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Going to Work to Quit

Should be an interesting day. I'm going into work and I figure by the day's end, I'll either be fired or walk out.

I work for a shithead - there's no other way to put it. He took about the entire months of December and January off - literally missing huge blocks of time each day (or missing the entire day) while recovering from his hangovers. He's abusive and has no ethics or morals. I've had to warn him about sexual harassment, personal harassment and his conduct in general. Working for him the past 6 months has been hell.

When I was asked what was going on in our office, I've had a couple of frank discussions with his bosses, who are 500 miles away. I've told them about the missed time and they've verified it because they haven't been able to get in touch with him. But the last straw was last Monday, when he used a racial slur and some other racial comments when speaking with me. His comments were very offensive. I've changed the racial group and the associated insults, but to give you an idea of what he said, here it goes:

"You can hang out with the other chinks and eat some cat, squint your eyes and speak that gobblty-gook shit."

I reported these to his boss on Wednesday via e-mail, but haven't even received a response.

So today, if I don't see or hear from his boss by early this afternoon, I'm calling the execuitve VP, telling him about the racial comments and then I'm heading home. Until I work for someone else, I'm not going back in. I'm used to a professional office, not one where personal attacks, extreme absenteeism and immoral stuff is commonplace.

There's other problems as well, including promises (promises, not hints or vague suggestions) of promotions that haven't happened. I've had it. I like working for the company, but I'm not going to work in that environment anymore.

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Old 02-05-2003, 06:27 AM   #2
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Wow. Let us know how it turns out.
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:30 AM   #3
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You ping Galt or somebody. But if you've been promised promotions and such and your performance has been consistent; if you add that to the racial slurs and whatnot it sounds like a lawsuit.

Why should you be put out-- especially in this job market-- bacause of some dick?
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:06 AM   #4
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Weren't you already fired last year ?
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:10 AM   #5
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Re: Going to Work to Quit

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Originally posted by Blackadar but I'm not going to work in that environment anymore.


You mean they aren't all like that?

{sorry, couldn't resist}

Good luck today & beyond, very little in life sucks any harder than work-related stuff.
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:38 AM   #6
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good luck - try to resist the urge to beat the living crap out of your dipshit boss.
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:49 AM   #7
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Good luck Blackadar!

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try to resist the urge to beat the living crap out of your dipshit boss

Hmm, I'm about to leave for a meeting with my old boss, who fired me from my old job. I work for a consulting firm, and we're working on a project for his agency. Thanks for the reminder Draft Dodger.
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:57 AM   #8
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Be prepared to sue. This is one of the situations that harassment lawsuits were made for.
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Old 02-05-2003, 10:07 AM   #9
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I had to throw this one in. Also, if you want some reassurance that you're not the only one out there with a jerk for a boss, check out the Friday Boss From Hell section at www.oddtodd.com. Sounds like you have a candidate.
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Old 02-05-2003, 11:20 AM   #10
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Old 02-05-2003, 11:55 AM   #11
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:07 PM   #12
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I hope this guy gets canned. You shouldn't have to put up with that kind of shit.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:23 PM   #13
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I say he gets the Boss's Job pronto and alot of apolgies at the very least for putting up with such bullshit.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:29 PM   #14
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I hope it all turns out well.
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Old 02-05-2003, 03:08 PM   #15
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Old 02-05-2003, 03:15 PM   #16
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Yeah, I thought you quit or got fired last year?

If not, then that kind of talk isn't necessary to you or anyone else.

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Old 02-05-2003, 03:30 PM   #17
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The fact that we haven't heard from Blacky makes me think either he still has the job, or he's in jail for assault.
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Old 02-05-2003, 03:34 PM   #18
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The fact that we haven't heard from Blacky makes me think either he still has the job, or he's in jail for assault.

or is getting shitfaced celebrating his new freedom down at the local TGIF
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Old 02-05-2003, 04:04 PM   #19
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Cam Edwards sexually harassed me on air. Twice.


Maybe so, but I think that was in his job description somewhere
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:21 PM   #20
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FYI, I was laid off about a year and a half ago in a corporate downsizing that reached 70% of all employees. I found a position with my current organization less than a week later.

As for today, I've had frank discussions with both the VP and Executive VP (who knows me better). I'm expecting a transfer and promotion very soon - like within a week or two. I'll hear from the VP on Friday.
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:32 PM   #21
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Outstanding.
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:33 PM   #22
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I don't like going to work. I don't think I'm gonna do that anymore.
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:37 PM   #23
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I never liked paying bills either. I don't think I'm gonna do that either.
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:42 PM   #24
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I don't like going to work. I don't think I'm gonna do that anymore.


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Old 02-05-2003, 06:57 PM   #25
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I'm still upset. But I have a child and a mortgage.

I turned down one opportunity while on the phone, because it was a loser. We'll see - I'll keep you guys updated.

And if they fire me, I'll be Rich, Rich, RICH!
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Old 02-05-2003, 07:48 PM   #26
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And if they fire me, I'll be Rich, Rich, RICH!

You can just picture it...

Them: We're sorry, but you're letting me go.
Blacky: I'll sue you bastards for wrongful dismissal!
Them: So you've always been a good employee?
Blacky: Good? Try great. I've worked my butt off for you guys!
Them: So you didn't spend company time surfing the web?
Blacky: Um...
Them: What's "FOFC"?
Blacky: Hey, look over there... (runs)

(Just kidding Blackadar... hope it works out. Give them hell.)
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Old 02-05-2003, 07:50 PM   #27
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Old 02-05-2003, 10:08 PM   #28
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I have a good idea how you feel so I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully there will be some justice and your boss will get shit canned.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:54 AM   #29
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I have a good idea how you feel so I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully there will be some justice and your boss will get shit canned.


I think that's a given. He's too dumb not to continue to do something stupid that will get him fired. It's a matter of when, not if. In the meantime, I'll have my own office elsewhere.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:56 AM   #30
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So you got fired ?
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Old 02-06-2003, 06:04 AM   #31
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don't keep me hanging? arghhh! what happened?
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Old 02-06-2003, 06:51 AM   #32
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don't keep me hanging? arghhh! what happened?


Read above. Or below.

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As for today, I've had frank discussions with both the VP and Executive VP (who knows me better). I'm expecting a transfer and promotion very soon - like within a week or two. I'll hear from the VP on Friday.
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Old 02-07-2003, 08:18 PM   #33
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Shit. The VP is in Baltimore and they got like a foot of snow. I won't find out anything until early next week.
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Old 02-07-2003, 10:40 PM   #34
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Old 02-21-2003, 06:13 PM   #35
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Little update.

Well, my Sr VPs told me to hang in there and be patient. And I was for a while, but it all blew up this afternoon. I've been stewing for a while over all the incidents and comments.

When he came in this afternoon, he started doing his impression of a woman masturbating and saying that after he got done with her, she'd need sawdust on the floor to clean up all the mess.

Well, that one sent me over the edge. I collected my shit and left, called the VP and got in touch with a VP at HR. After telling my story and providing backup regarding the stories and timeframes (I blind cc:'d myself on some e-mails), he's going to be gone on Monday. We'll see what happens after that, but at least I won't have to work with this moron.
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Old 02-21-2003, 06:15 PM   #36
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hehehe i'll have to write that one down
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Old 02-21-2003, 06:33 PM   #37
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That sucks. So much for it being solved quickly. Keep us updated.

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Old 02-21-2003, 07:46 PM   #38
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It s very good that you stood up for what is right . Shows that you really care for the well being of everybody .
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Old 02-21-2003, 11:21 PM   #39
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Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.
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Old 02-21-2003, 11:27 PM   #40
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It s very good that you stood up for what is right . Shows that you really care for the well being of everybody .


Well, I actually caught a lot of flack for doing that from some people. But I believe that what's right is right.
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Old 02-22-2003, 12:54 AM   #41
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Well, I actually caught a lot of flack for doing that from some people.

No doubt . . . "He might be an asshole but he's OUR asshole!"

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But I believe that what's right is right.

Definitely agree with that. And definitely agree with what you did.
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Old 02-22-2003, 08:46 AM   #42
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The past few months have been hell. Let's see if it gets better or worse...
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Old 02-22-2003, 01:24 PM   #43
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uhhhh...what are you a girl? or are you 10 years old that you blush when other talk about adult-themed topics? what is so controversial about a guy mock-masturbating that would "send you over the edge"?

sure, there's a time and place for everything, but i think you're being ultra-ovary sensitive here. if he did it in front of your wife that's a different story, but if it's at work and no one else minds why should you be the champion of the female cause? what's your point?

maybe it's just me, i just thought you had hair on the backs of your hands and i thought i've seen you around here making R rated comments every once in a while.

i guess being in NYC is just a world of its own.
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:38 PM   #44
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uhhhh...what are you a girl? or are you 10 years old that you blush when other talk about adult-themed topics? what is so controversial about a guy mock-masturbating that would "send you over the edge"?

sure, there's a time and place for everything, but i think you're being ultra-ovary sensitive here. if he did it in front of your wife that's a different story, but if it's at work and no one else minds why should you be the champion of the female cause? what's your point?

maybe it's just me, i just thought you had hair on the backs of your hands and i thought i've seen you around here making R rated comments every once in a while.

i guess being in NYC is just a world of its own.


You obviously don't get it. That kind of shit doesn't belong in an office environment. Period. Also, I can't deny that his past remarks also do have some bearing on "my sensitivity".

Also, this kind of crap has been said around the women of the office, who have also complained.
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Old 02-22-2003, 03:24 PM   #45
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i guess being in NYC is just a world of its own.
I knew the NYC water caused stupidity and now I have definitive proof! Hell, I'm from Texas and if you know anyone from there, you know we don't hesitate to bring it up whenever we can. We're proud of our state and even can jokingly talk about how armed we are and how tough we are but, in the end, it's all in fun. Seriously, tho, that post is in jest, right?

Also, there's a huge difference between a person of power doing those things and friends doing that. You're allowed to hold whatever prejudices or tell whatever jokes you want among friends. Hell, I'm sure all of us have told jokes at least slightly off-color. But, this is a person who is in charge of what people in the company do and clearly he has it in for women. Would you want your sister/daughter/wife working for him?

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Old 02-22-2003, 03:46 PM   #46
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Making masturbation motions is supposed to be acceptable in a business environment? Hell Atlantic is the one that sounds like the child. An office is not the appropriate venue for teenage trash talking and gesturing. How could you ever imagine that it was? We're not even talking about stuff that a reasonable person could be expected to get over here, this stuff is clearly over the line of appropriate behavior.
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:21 PM   #47
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just cuz you're from "Bethlehem" doesn't mean you have to act holier than thou, tekneek. it's 2003 fellas, we have women playing on the PGA tour. pretty soon we're gonna have to allow them in men's restrooms because to not do so would infringe on their rights.

Blackie, if the women who have found offense have taken action - is that not enough? i just don't understand the need for a crusade to oust this guy. it seems there's an underlying motive here, i'm not saying you're being sinister (i like you, not trying to ruffle your feathers) with an evil plot, but i don't get the oversensitivity and the need to ask for pats on the back from others.

this guy is your boss, you're not supposed to like him. what is this, the OOTP board?

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Old 02-22-2003, 11:45 PM   #48
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Well, the guy also blew off work. We can assume that he was an all-around jerk. This is an isolated incident. But considering what had gone on recently and Blackadder's stated attitude, we've got a much more serious situation than the joke itself would indicate.
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Old 02-23-2003, 07:49 AM   #49
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just cuz you're from "Bethlehem" doesn't mean you have to act holier than thou, tekneek.


It has nothing to do with anything holy, or your poor sense of humor. It's just where I live. You have the right to be wrong, and in this case you are. With your kind of attitude, you are well on your way to future job problems. All you have to do is lose one job over sexual harrassment to cause a lot of future employment problems for yourself. If this company doesn't take these complaints seriously, and Blackadar goes to the EEOC, they are going to be in a world of hurt. More than one person will lose their jobs, and any benefit gained from employing this jerk will be lost tenfold.
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Old 02-23-2003, 08:47 AM   #50
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just cuz you're from "Bethlehem" doesn't mean you have to act holier than thou, tekneek. it's 2003 fellas, we have women playing on the PGA tour. pretty soon we're gonna have to allow them in men's restrooms because to not do so would infringe on their rights.

Blackie, if the women who have found offense have taken action - is that not enough? i just don't understand the need for a crusade to oust this guy. it seems there's an underlying motive here, i'm not saying you're being sinister (i like you, not trying to ruffle your feathers) with an evil plot, but i don't get the oversensitivity and the need to ask for pats on the back from others.

this guy is your boss, you're not supposed to like him. what is this, the OOTP board?


I have a hard time figuring out if you're trying to be funny or actually are being serious.
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