changing positions

Noble_Platypus · 02-02-2003, 11:08 PM

A lot of times really good centers drop in the draft while mediocre gaurds and tackles are taken. most times you can grab the center and change his position to G or T, but there are already so many ways to expoit the AI, so I try and limit this. What does everybody else think?

MizzouRah · 02-02-2003, 11:11 PM

How much does the player's ratings drop when you switch from C to G/T?

Todd

Noble_Platypus · 02-02-2003, 11:22 PM

It varies, sometimes 20-30 %, sometimes not at all, esp if you move from C to G

fantastic flying froggies · 02-03-2003, 10:37 AM

I'm sorry, but I'm a bit disappointed by this thread... From the title, I was expecting something much juicier...

Easy Mac · 02-03-2003, 10:45 AM

He's a noble platypus, not a nympho platypus

fantastic flying froggies · 02-03-2003, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy Mac
He's a noble platypus, not a nympho platypus

You know, from your reply, I've just realised his name wasn't papyrus... I'd always read it that way...

fantastic flying froggies · 02-03-2003, 10:51 AM

Dola.

What does "platypus" actually mean ?

Easy Mac · 02-03-2003, 10:52 AM

Its a funny fucking animal

A semiaquatic egg-laying mammal (Ornithorhynchus anatinus) of Australia and Tasmania, having a broad flat tail, webbed feet, and a snout resembling a duck's bill. Also called duckbill, duck-billed platypus.

Easy Mac · 02-03-2003, 10:53 AM

dola

fantastic flying froggies · 02-03-2003, 10:57 AM

Speaking of positions, I'm thinking this animal must be able to do some interesting things with that snout of his...

cuervo72 · 02-03-2003, 11:02 AM

Um....not to be on topic or anything....but if you change a position - say from RG to LG and the player loses some ability, does he lose even more ability if he goes back to RG? Does he gain it back? Is it lost forever?

You could conceivably take a great player and whittle him down to nothing just by repeatedly changing positions. Don't know if it works that way in practice or not, but it wouldn't seem realistic.

Easy Mac · 02-03-2003, 11:04 AM

Loses talent i think
and you can only change positions 3 times now, b/c you used to be able to create great players the way you described.

Bee · 02-03-2003, 11:14 AM

I don't think this is a huge exploit myself (maybe if you use TCY draft files?). I agree the centers in the draft that are left are better than guards and tackles, but the switch results with them losing enough potential and skill that it's not worth it. There may be exceptions to that, but when I've tried it I generally end up with a guy who's about the same as the guards and tackles that were available anyway.

cuervo72 · 02-03-2003, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Loses talent i think
and you can only change positions 3 times now, b/c you used to be able to create great players the way you described.

Hmm. Kind of sucks then. Just goes back to the whole position definition/playing out of position question then I guess. Especially for the O-line. I mean, there are guys that will play almost all the positions in a year to adjust for injuries IRL....maybe future versions can just include players' ratings at different positions, at least somewhere where we can see it. I've seen many baseball games do the same.

MizzouRah · 02-03-2003, 11:22 AM

I don't think it's cheating either. I don't think the computer teams do this, but in the NFL you'll see it from time to time due to injuries.

Todd

Bee · 02-03-2003, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cuervo72
...maybe future versions can just include players' ratings at different positions, at least somewhere where we can see it. I've seen many baseball games do the same.

That's a good idea IMO.

Qwikshot · 02-03-2003, 01:56 PM

my girlfriend is very interested in changing positions..er wait...sorry different topic

Noble_Platypus · 02-03-2003, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Its a funny fucking animal

A semiaquatic egg-laying mammal (Ornithorhynchus anatinus) of Australia and Tasmania, having a broad flat tail, webbed feet, and a snout resembling a duck's bill. Also called duckbill, duck-billed platypus.

Dont forget how incredibly noble it is. Those of you who have seem Dogma will understand.

fantastic flying froggies · 02-05-2003, 06:49 AM

Reviving this thread to be maybe a bit more ON topic, how about having a rating for 'snaps' for centers ? This seems to me to be the major difference between a C and T, no ?

02-02-2003, 11:22 PM	#3
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	It varies, sometimes 20-30 %, sometimes not at all, esp if you move from C to G __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin'

02-03-2003, 10:37 AM	#4
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	I'm sorry, but I'm a bit disappointed by this thread... From the title, I was expecting something much juicier... __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

02-03-2003, 10:51 AM	#7
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Dola. What does "platypus" actually mean ? __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

02-03-2003, 10:57 AM	#10
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Speaking of positions, I'm thinking this animal must be able to do some interesting things with that snout of his... __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

02-03-2003, 11:02 AM	#11
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Um....not to be on topic or anything....but if you change a position - say from RG to LG and the player loses some ability, does he lose even more ability if he goes back to RG? Does he gain it back? Is it lost forever? You could conceivably take a great player and whittle him down to nothing just by repeatedly changing positions. Don't know if it works that way in practice or not, but it wouldn't seem realistic. __________________ null

02-02-2003, 11:11 PM	#2
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	How much does the player's ratings drop when you switch from C to G/T? Todd

02-03-2003, 10:45 AM	#5
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	He's a noble platypus, not a nympho platypus

02-03-2003, 10:52 AM	#8
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Its a funny fucking animal A semiaquatic egg-laying mammal (Ornithorhynchus anatinus) of Australia and Tasmania, having a broad flat tail, webbed feet, and a snout resembling a duck's bill. Also called duckbill, duck-billed platypus.

02-03-2003, 10:53 AM	#9
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	dola

02-03-2003, 11:04 AM	#12
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Loses talent i think and you can only change positions 3 times now, b/c you used to be able to create great players the way you described.

02-03-2003, 11:14 AM	#13
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I don't think this is a huge exploit myself (maybe if you use TCY draft files?). I agree the centers in the draft that are left are better than guards and tackles, but the switch results with them losing enough potential and skill that it's not worth it. There may be exceptions to that, but when I've tried it I generally end up with a guy who's about the same as the guards and tackles that were available anyway.

02-03-2003, 11:22 AM	#15
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I don't think it's cheating either. I don't think the computer teams do this, but in the NFL you'll see it from time to time due to injuries. Todd

02-03-2003, 01:56 PM	#17
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	my girlfriend is very interested in changing positions..er wait...sorry different topic __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

02-05-2003, 06:49 AM	#19
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	Reviving this thread to be maybe a bit more ON topic, how about having a rating for 'snaps' for centers ? This seems to me to be the major difference between a C and T, no ? __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

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