Victor Zambrano sucks

Lathum · 04-18-2006, 06:46 PM

I mean really sucks...

I want Kazmir back.

duckman · 04-18-2006, 06:48 PM

no pics plz k thx

JS19 · 04-18-2006, 07:07 PM

I was just about to go the the MLB thread and post the same thing. I have a pure hatred for this guy.

JS19 · 04-18-2006, 07:15 PM

Another 2 run bomb to Jones. Why can't this guy just tear an arm ligament and call it a season already, or a career.

General Mike · 04-18-2006, 07:20 PM

Between him and Jorge Julio, I will have pulled out all my hair by the end of May.

Philliesfan980 · 04-18-2006, 07:23 PM

Wow, poor babies, you have 1 bad reliever and 1 bad starting pitcher. 99% of the league envies you.

Pyser · 04-18-2006, 07:28 PM

we are met fans! we only know how to complain!

those mother f^&*($in braves!!!!

General Mike · 04-18-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

Wow, poor babies, you have 1 bad reliever and 1 bad starting pitcher. 99% of the league envies you.

At least 1 of each. Trachsel isnt great, Bannister looks ok, but we'll see when he makes his 2nd loop around the league and the bullpen, well I just don't trust Duaner Sanchez or Darren Oliver or Pedro Feliciano.

ISiddiqui · 04-18-2006, 07:45 PM

Well, I trust Duaner so far... aside from that, I agree with that post.

Easy Mac · 04-18-2006, 07:48 PM

If Zambrano could only pitch against the last 4 Braves hitters he'd have a perfect game.

ISiddiqui · 04-18-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I mean really sucks...

I want Kazmir back.

I have a sick feeling that that trade will be considered similar to the Red Sox dealing Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson when all is said and done

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JS19 · 04-18-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I have a sick feeling that that trade will be considered similar to the Red Sox dealing Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson when all is said and done

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Yes it will. While Kazmir is off competing for Cy Young awards, we will be watching Zambrano, well hopefully on the DL, but if not, then watching him give up many more bombs to Andruw Jones.

SackAttack · 04-18-2006, 08:01 PM

Sanchez is going to be a rock-solid reliever for you guys, but yeah, you'd have been better off keeping Seo and dumping Zambrano.

Logan · 04-18-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I have a sick feeling that that trade will be considered similar to the Red Sox dealing Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson when all is said and done

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Disagree. Larry Anderson was actually good at the time and helped the Sox for a bit.

bulletsponge · 04-18-2006, 08:24 PM

whos Kazmir?

FBPro · 04-18-2006, 08:41 PM

Whiny Mut fans...OMG......is there anything worse?

bulletsponge · 04-18-2006, 08:50 PM

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Whiny Mut fans...OMG......is there anything worse?

Whiney Red soxs fans, whiney Cubs fans

stevew · 04-18-2006, 09:16 PM

Shit, everyone knows the Mets will pay 20 million a season for Kazmir when he hits FA just to save face.

sterlingice · 04-18-2006, 09:24 PM

Whiny Yankee fans?

SI

ISiddiqui · 04-18-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Sanchez is going to be a rock-solid reliever for you guys, but yeah, you'd have been better off keeping Seo and dumping Zambrano.

Another head scratcher! Why let Seo go?! Maybe because it would have looked back to dump Zambrano, basically admitting the Mets let Kazmir go for nothing.

JS19 · 04-18-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

whos Kazmir?

One of these "can't miss" prospects the Mets gave away to Tampa Bay. He's supposed to be a stud, in his early career I would say he's looked pretty good, one thing is for sure, he won't/can't be worse than Zambrano.

ISiddiqui · 04-18-2006, 10:52 PM

Last year went 10-9 with a 3.77 ERA (114 ERA+) in basically his first full year.

bulletsponge · 04-19-2006, 12:45 AM

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One of these "can't miss" prospects the Mets gave away to Tampa Bay. He's supposed to be a stud, in his early career I would say he's looked pretty good, one thing is for sure, he won't/can't be worse than Zambrano

Ive learned 1 lesson from playing sports managment games, never ever trade away young studs. especialy when your desperate.

JS19 · 04-19-2006, 01:17 AM

Too bad Jim Duquette (i think he was the GM at the time) didn't learn this. Worst part is the Mets are still paying for this mistake every time Zambrano takes the mound.

panerd · 04-19-2006, 07:50 AM

I drafted Heilman in my fantasy league expecting him to be the 5th starter. Looks like he is blowing that opportunity by being a rock solid middle reliever. Any chance of him getting some starts?

General Mike · 04-19-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

I drafted Heilman in my fantasy league expecting him to be the 5th starter. Looks like he is blowing that opportunity by being a rock solid middle reliever. Any chance of him getting some starts?

Not if Bannister keeps pitching well.

ISiddiqui · 04-19-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Not if Bannister keeps pitching well.

Are you forgetting about Zambrano? Randolph is not going to be so thick headed to let him continue to pitch if he continues sucking it up.

Qwikshot · 04-19-2006, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I mean really sucks...

I want Kazmir back.

I agree, it was a great song...

TazFTW · 04-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Go Hudson!

CraigSca · 04-19-2006, 05:28 PM

So, I'm guessing the wheels have fallen off the Met bandwagon?

ISiddiqui · 04-19-2006, 05:48 PM

They are 10-4... you expect them to win everything?

General Mike · 04-19-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

So, I'm guessing the wheels have fallen off the Met bandwagon?

Yeah, the wheels fell off 5 miles back.

FBPro · 04-19-2006, 08:51 PM

Love it, love it, love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lathum · 04-23-2006, 03:16 PM

Round 2

First inning home run on an 0-2 pitch.

General Mike · 04-23-2006, 04:20 PM

Christ he sucks.

Captain2711 · 04-23-2006, 04:24 PM

Gotta love letting the pitcher get on with 2 outs and then subsequently loading the bases and giving up a homer to the team with the least amount of homers in the major. Bite the bullet Omar. Peterson can't fix him. Sign Kazmir as a free agent in 5 years.

Go Mets....and take Zambrano with you.

Logan · 04-23-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain2711

Gotta love letting the pitcher get on with 2 outs and then subsequently loading the bases and giving up a homer to the team with the least amount of homers in the major. Bite the bullet Omar. Peterson can't fix him. Sign Kazmir as a free agent in 5 years.

Go Mets....and take Zambrano with you.

The argument is always "the Mets keep him in the rotation because otherwise, they would have nothing to show for the Kazmir trade."

Here's my stance: If we didn't have to see him blow every start, we wouldn't be reminded of how much he sucks, and how little we got for Kazmir. Out of sight, out of mind...we'll move on. It's hard to move on when you have zero confidence in your starter every 5 days.

ISiddiqui · 04-23-2006, 04:31 PM

At some point you just have drop your losses and let them go. Put Heilman in the rotation instead. Maybe Zambrano can hang out in the bullpen (but rarely used) if they don't want to get rid of him entirely.

JS19 · 04-23-2006, 04:34 PM

He's gotta go, thats all there is to it. The last place I would want is to see him is in the bullpen. At least in the rotation he can suck for 4 innings, giving us 5 to get back in the game. Put him in the pen, it goes without saying that he will blow it, leaving us with on 2 or 3 innings to get the lead back.

Captain2711 · 04-23-2006, 04:44 PM

Maybe a package trade of Zambrano, Julio and Jose Valentin (another waste of a roster spot)? There's got to be another complete loser Peterson can "save."

General Mike · 04-23-2006, 04:47 PM

They traded 2 pitchers who are so much better than Zambrano in the offseason, one who they got nothing back for, and now I have to watch this piece of crap every 5 days?

Captain2711 · 04-23-2006, 05:00 PM

It's official!! Victor Zambrano now has ERA worse than Jorge Julio.

Logan · 04-23-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JS19

He's gotta go, thats all there is to it. The last place I would want is to see him is in the bullpen. At least in the rotation he can suck for 4 innings, giving us 5 to get back in the game.

Just like today. We're back to down 5-4 in the 6th.

Captain2711 · 05-01-2006, 06:22 PM

1 inning down... only two runners reached.

JS19 · 05-01-2006, 08:24 PM

Dont care what happened tonight, he still sucks.

Fouts · 05-01-2006, 09:38 PM

Please pay homage to Chan Ho Park when starting any "pitcher sucks" threads.

Fouts · 05-06-2006, 12:38 AM

Dola,

Zambrano vs Park tonight, neither pitcher allowed a run. Padres win in extra innings 1-0.

SackAttack · 05-06-2006, 12:41 AM

And somewhere in Hell, Satan turns up the thermostat a few degrees to ward off the creeping chill.

ShaefIllini · 05-06-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Dola,

Zambrano vs Park tonight, neither pitcher allowed a run. Padres win in extra innings 1-0.

Factually correct, but it was Carlos Zambrano. And Park not allowing a run against that Cub lineup shouldn't necessarily be looked at as a success, maybe just 'expected'.

Fouts · 05-06-2006, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaefIllini

Factually correct, but it was Carlos Zambrano. And Park not allowing a run against that Cub lineup shouldn't necessarily be looked at as a success, maybe just 'expected'.

My bad, wrong Zambrano, but Chan Ho was on.

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JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I was just about to go the the MLB thread and post the same thing. I have a pure hatred for this guy.

04-18-2006, 07:15 PM	#4
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Another 2 run bomb to Jones. Why can't this guy just tear an arm ligament and call it a season already, or a career.

04-18-2006, 07:23 PM	#6
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Wow, poor babies, you have 1 bad reliever and 1 bad starting pitcher. 99% of the league envies you.

04-18-2006, 07:28 PM	#7
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	we are met fans! we only know how to complain! those mother f^&*($in braves!!!!

04-18-2006, 07:48 PM	#10
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	If Zambrano could only pitch against the last 4 Braves hitters he'd have a perfect game.

04-18-2006, 08:01 PM	#13
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Sanchez is going to be a rock-solid reliever for you guys, but yeah, you'd have been better off keeping Seo and dumping Zambrano.

04-18-2006, 08:24 PM	#15
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	whos Kazmir?

04-18-2006, 09:16 PM	#18
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Shit, everyone knows the Mets will pay 20 million a season for Kazmir when he hits FA just to save face.

04-19-2006, 01:17 AM	#24
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Too bad Jim Duquette (i think he was the GM at the time) didn't learn this. Worst part is the Mets are still paying for this mistake every time Zambrano takes the mound.

04-19-2006, 07:50 AM	#25
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	I drafted Heilman in my fantasy league expecting him to be the 5th starter. Looks like he is blowing that opportunity by being a rock solid middle reliever. Any chance of him getting some starts?

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Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Gotta love letting the pitcher get on with 2 outs and then subsequently loading the bases and giving up a homer to the team with the least amount of homers in the major. Bite the bullet Omar. Peterson can't fix him. Sign Kazmir as a free agent in 5 years. Go Mets....and take Zambrano with you. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

04-23-2006, 04:31 PM	#38
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	At some point you just have drop your losses and let them go. Put Heilman in the rotation instead. Maybe Zambrano can hang out in the bullpen (but rarely used) if they don't want to get rid of him entirely. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-23-2006, 04:34 PM	#39
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	He's gotta go, thats all there is to it. The last place I would want is to see him is in the bullpen. At least in the rotation he can suck for 4 innings, giving us 5 to get back in the game. Put him in the pen, it goes without saying that he will blow it, leaving us with on 2 or 3 innings to get the lead back.

04-23-2006, 04:44 PM	#40
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Maybe a package trade of Zambrano, Julio and Jose Valentin (another waste of a roster spot)? There's got to be another complete loser Peterson can "save." __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

04-23-2006, 04:47 PM	#41
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	They traded 2 pitchers who are so much better than Zambrano in the offseason, one who they got nothing back for, and now I have to watch this piece of crap every 5 days?

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Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	It's official!! Victor Zambrano now has ERA worse than Jorge Julio. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

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Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	1 inning down... only two runners reached. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

05-01-2006, 08:24 PM	#45
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Dont care what happened tonight, he still sucks.

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05-06-2006, 12:38 AM	#47
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Dola, Zambrano vs Park tonight, neither pitcher allowed a run. Padres win in extra innings 1-0.

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