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03-13-2006, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2001
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Brees wants $10 million a year
He's a pretty good QB, but he is not even close to being worth $10 million a year. If that's what he really expects, I hope the Dolphins let him go suffer with the Saints.
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03-13-2006, 10:16 AM
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GIVE IT TO HIM!!!
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03-13-2006, 10:17 AM
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Lots of teams need a Pro Bowl QB, and its not a terrible idea for him to try and command as much cash as he can at this stage of his career.
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03-13-2006, 10:17 AM
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Location: Charleston, SC
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03-13-2006, 10:19 AM
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Location: New Jersey
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10 million a year is not that bad if it is long term deal and structured in a way in which the cap hit isn't too terrible if he is cut in 3 years (if he doesn't live up to the potential that he has shown in the past few seasons.)
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03-13-2006, 10:20 AM
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Location: Astoria, NY, USA
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why would you want to leave San Deigo? i plan on retiring there. great weather. team is on the rise.
weather would play a huge factor for me if i were a football player. who wants to play in Green Bay during the winter? who wants to play in Buffalo? losing will happen, the only thing that sucks more than losing is having to be on a bad team and freeze your nuts off for nothing. |
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03-13-2006, 10:22 AM
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Location: Dayton, OH
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So, does this mean that Leinart and Young are falling that fast?
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03-13-2006, 10:23 AM
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I don't think so. The talk on local radio is that the Saints just want to try to get more value out of the #2 pick. I still think Leinart is probably going to go #2, just not to the Saints if they get Brees. They'll hopefully trade down just a few spots and pick up an extra pick or two. |
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03-13-2006, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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In this market he'll probably get 12-15 mil a year.
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03-13-2006, 10:25 AM
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Not if he's asking for 10.  Edit: Unless of course the Redskins decide to overpay yet again. Last edited by moriarty : 03-13-2006 at 10:26 AM. |
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03-13-2006, 10:27 AM
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Its a joke Moriarty.
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03-13-2006, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Paying 10 million per to Brees on a 102 million dollar cap does not seem too bad. I'd have to have some kind of protection on the contract in case his shoulder is still shit....like ef27 said, an out after 3 years or something. Solid QB's like him just don't grow on trees.
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03-13-2006, 10:28 AM
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College Starter
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I hope so. |
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03-13-2006, 10:31 AM
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From everything I have heard, he really wants to stay in San Diego, and he does love it there. But the Chargers are feeling the same about him I guess, as far as the money goes anyways. If he can get a huge amount of money somewhere else, then good for him. BTW, do we have a free agency thread somewhere I am not seeing? I wanted to bitch about the Packers GM being a dumbass once again and letting Longwell walk away....and walk away to the Vikings. Another Packer to Minnesota, way to go Thompson.
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03-13-2006, 10:32 AM
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Doesn't appear it was his choice.
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03-13-2006, 10:48 AM
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it indeed is his choice. you have to assume that a higher quality of living, not having to play in horrible weather and being on a team on it's way up (if you are in fact concerned about winning and not just about the money) has a monetary value attached to it. so it's within his ability to not make top dollar - once you get into a range such as what these guys make a million here or there isn't going to make a huge dent when you can essentially play wherever you want. so instead of making $10million per, you make $7million per but at least you play in great weather, get to play with an MVP-calibre RB and don't have to worry about looking over your shoulder. |
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03-13-2006, 10:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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I'm not familiar with SD's sports market, but is there any indication the Chargers were even willing to give him 7 million, HA?
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03-13-2006, 11:14 AM
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San Diego made one offer to Brees from what I have seen, and it was a crap 1 year deal that screwed him if injured. According to this article, it is any injury, not just the shoulder injury. But gee, I guess HA would take a huge risk like this for one more year in SD.
By Jim Trotter UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER March 12, 2006 You can criticize the decision, but not the motivation. If A.J. Smith believes Philip Rivers will develop into a better quarterback than Drew Brees, then he made the right call in clearing a path for Rivers to assume the starting job. We often talk about playing to win instead of playing not to lose. That philosophy applies to general managers as well as to teams. Smith knows the popular decision would be to bring back Brees for another year, even if it means paying him $9 million as a franchise player. But Smith has no interest in winning popularity contests; he's more concerned about winning championships, and clearly he believes Rivers is more capable of doing that, otherwise he would have made a legitimate effort to re-sign Brees. And don't bring up that one-year, incentive-laden deal they offered Brees. It doesn't pass the sniff test. At best, it was disingenuous. At worst, it was insulting. Follow along: Say Brees is completely healthy during training camp and earns the starting job entering the season opener. On the first play from scrimmage, however, he sustains a career-ending knee injury. Now he has no chance to earn the $8 million in 2006 play-time incentives the team included in its contract offer, and the reason is his knee, not his shoulder. You don't have to be a Mensa member to see that this scenario makes no business sense for Brees. It's one thing for the team to have protection against his shoulder not healing, but by structuring the contract offer the way they did, the Chargers also would be protected if Brees went down for any reason. Brees would have been stupid to accept such an offer, so let's stop with the talk that the Chargers really wanted to keep him. On their terms, yes, but only on their terms. Part of the reason is that they have Rivers in the wings, and Smith believes the third-year pro has the tools to be special.
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03-13-2006, 11:19 AM
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Brees claims that he was offered a 1 year deal with a four year team option. It had to do more with security than it did with the amount they were offering.
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03-13-2006, 11:22 AM
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Location: Illinois
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Yup. A lot of FA talk is going on in the NFL Offseason thread. And I couldn't agree more about Thompson. He appears to be approaching FA in 1st gear when the rest of the league is in hyperdrive. |
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03-13-2006, 11:22 AM
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That was my impression as well. I thought maybe HA knew something I didn't about the SD-Brees situation. |
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03-13-2006, 01:19 PM
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Exactly. HA makes it sound like Brees walked away from a team that truly wanted him, and that's just not the case.
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03-13-2006, 01:39 PM
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i wasn't that aware they insulted him with a one year deal. of course, the guy got hurt and is currently a question mark. will he bounce back? more than likely. but in his current state it's a bit risky to offer the guy a 7 year deal at $10million per (or whatever he'll wind up signing). of the teams that wanted Brees that i know off the top of my head - Miami, Detroit and San Diego - SD has the best upside so far. probably made more sense for Brees to lower his demands a bit.
also, i was just saying if *i* were a pro athlete, the weather of the city would play more of a factor than the team's chances at winning. Last edited by Anthony : 03-13-2006 at 01:40 PM. |
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03-13-2006, 01:44 PM
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If it's down to the Saints and Dolphins he'd be crazy to choose the Saints. Unfortunately for Pats fans, Miami has the real deal in Nick Saban. They are going to be good.
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03-13-2006, 01:57 PM
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How can the Redskins not be in on this?
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03-13-2006, 01:58 PM
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they are too busy locking up Christian Fauria
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03-13-2006, 02:02 PM
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Location: Fairfax, VA
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Brees is too young to play QB for the Redskins. |
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03-13-2006, 02:06 PM
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The Redskins already signed a QB, Randle-El.
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03-13-2006, 02:08 PM
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Well, you can't argue it's not an upgrade... |
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03-13-2006, 02:17 PM
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Someone has to choose the Saints. You have to field a team with players, believe it or not. And some players are going to look at it as a chance to be a part of something even more special than an ordinary football team. And I am not talking about taking less money for a good opporitunity sort of way, I am talking about making what a player is worth while doing something good even before you win games. For the player who looks at the situation in a certain way, its win win regardless. And its not like the Saints are really devoid of talent either. |
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03-13-2006, 02:18 PM
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I'm just saying, faced with a choice I would think you choose Miami. That's all.
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03-13-2006, 02:20 PM
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Criminy, the Dolphins did pretty well the last time they had a QB from Purdue, so they need to sack-up and pay that man the money.
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03-13-2006, 02:57 PM
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I like Brees but why take the chance when you are paying Rivers all that money? Also, I'd like to see what Rivers can do, maybe he won't fumble the ball in the 4th quarter and will actually put games away.
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03-13-2006, 03:19 PM
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Brees made a lot of smart comments about wanting to help New Orleans bounce back and how he loves to help turn a team around (which is why he says he chose Purdue rather than a bigger college team.) One could certainly argue that New Orleans has a more talented receiving corp than Miami. If Deuce can come back from his injury they have the potential to have a strong running game. Nick Saban is a great coach, but I don't think it would necessarily be just about the money if he chose the Saints over the Dolphins.
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03-13-2006, 03:22 PM
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I'd consider Rivers a much larger risk. How many college QBs actually pan out like Brees has? Seems the range is usually mediocre to bust. |
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03-13-2006, 03:35 PM
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Ugh! I don't want to go through another quarterback trying to learn the system. I want to stick with what works. Think about the weapons on this offense. They will be gone by the time Rivers is comfortable playing quarterback in the NFL and the Chargers will be at the bottom of the division again. It is painful to be a Chargers fan, because I don't believe the ownership will ever do whatever it takes to win. Every fricking time I believe the Chargers are going to turn the corner, they always manage to make a bad business decision. It still hurts me to this day that they actually let Bobby Ross go. Imagine if he was coaching this team.....just imagine.
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03-13-2006, 03:39 PM
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03-13-2006, 03:43 PM
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03-13-2006, 03:49 PM
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It's good to see Ross has recovered his sanity following his years as head coach of the Lions.
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03-13-2006, 04:46 PM
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As Brees said in the paper, "I'm Butler's guy and Philip is A.J.'s guy, 'nuff said."
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03-14-2006, 12:17 PM
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From the Miami Herald:
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03-14-2006, 12:24 PM
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03-14-2006, 12:27 PM
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NFL Quarterbacks I'd rather have than Brees (assuming his shoulder heals back to normal):
Tom Brady, Carson Palmer (assuming he recovers), Peyton Manning, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger No, I don't think they're overpaying. |
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03-14-2006, 12:31 PM
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"the Saints made a more lucrative offer when he visited them Saturday and Sunday."
Should have signed it then Drew - the offer just went down.
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03-14-2006, 12:32 PM
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Drew might have just priced himself out of a lot of money.
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03-14-2006, 12:37 PM
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I'm very confused. Do the Dolphins really now have Brees and Culpepper?
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03-14-2006, 12:41 PM
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And they traded for Marvin Harrison just moments ago.
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03-14-2006, 12:42 PM
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Barry Sanders has just unretired and has been traded to the Dolphins for Marty Booker.
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03-14-2006, 12:43 PM
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When the Bulger trade goes through the Dolphins really will be loaded.
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03-14-2006, 12:45 PM
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Brees has NOT signed? I saw something this morning that he had signed with the Dolphins ... then there's the thread about the Dolphins trading for Culpepper ... is one of those not true?
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