The Star Trek Movies

Kodos · 03-11-2006, 04:06 PM

Which one was the best?

Honolulu_Blue · 03-11-2006, 04:11 PM

I'll await the poll, but the answer should be pretty obvious. . .

Kodos · 03-11-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I'll await the poll, but the answer should be pretty obvious. . .

KHAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!

tanglewood · 03-11-2006, 04:13 PM

Obvious.

Kodos · 03-11-2006, 04:15 PM

My favorites were:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. Generations
3. Voyage Home (had a lot of humor in it)
4. Nemesis

DaddyTorgo · 03-11-2006, 04:16 PM

tough question. "best" meaning what? I could answer any of a couple different ways...

DaddyTorgo · 03-11-2006, 04:17 PM

2,4,6, 8

Senator · 03-11-2006, 04:18 PM

I have never seen any of these all the way through, but I think one of these had the ear wigs in them, which wins the award hands down.

DaddyTorgo · 03-11-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

I have never seen any of these all the way through, but I think one of these had the ear wigs in them, which wins the award hands down.

2

Honolulu_Blue · 03-11-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

2,4,6, 8

Sounds about right, though I'd go 2,8,4,6.

DaddyTorgo · 03-11-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Sounds about right, though I'd go 2,8,4,6.

oh i wasn't listing in order. i was going with "2...4....6...8...who do we appreciate" kinda thing. in order it'd prolly...well...be...what you typed. 2.8.4.6. or 2,8,6,4

Tigercat · 03-11-2006, 04:37 PM

I picked First Contact, simply because I felt that it was a better stand alone movie than 2, also I think it did a slightly better job of having the spirit of Star Trek and mixing it in with good action and such. Kahn has better moments though.

Tigercat · 03-11-2006, 04:39 PM

Dola, I will say also, that for me 2, 6, and 8 are clearly the best movies. Undiscovered Country is really underrated. Sure, its got some silly moments and might go a bit far on the cold war analogies, but its the best Star Trek has to offer in terms of political intrigue. (Which may not be saying much depending on one's point of view though...)

AlexB · 03-11-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

2,4,6, 8

ain't never too late
Me and my radio truckin' on thru the night
3-5-7-9 on a double white line
Motorway sun coming up with the morning light

AZSpeechCoach · 03-11-2006, 06:05 PM

As someone who has all of the special editions of the DVDs (much to Mrs. SpeechCoach's chagrin), 2 is the best, with 8, 6, and 4, but 3 is surprisingly addictive.

Bubba Wheels · 03-11-2006, 07:07 PM

Almost got the 'director's cut' of Star Trek 1: The Motion Picture. They supposedly made some fixes to what was pretty much a slide show.

BTW, since the thread didn't make the cutoff I'll put it up here...tomorrow night (Sunday) at 8:00 p on History Channel "How William Shatner Changed the Universe!" Has to do with Shatner and all the modern-day gadgets he inspired like cell phones.

Then March 22 Shatner is featured in "Living in TV Land." I think he may well be approaching Elvis status!

Buccaneer · 03-11-2006, 07:08 PM

I would say 2 was the best but 4 was my personal favorite.

AZSpeechCoach · 03-11-2006, 07:31 PM

The Director's Cut of 1 is still too long, plodding, and boring, but the redone effects shots are really gorgeous.

st.cronin · 03-11-2006, 07:35 PM

I'm pretty sure I've never seen any of these movies.

JeffNights · 03-11-2006, 07:49 PM

My top ten rankings as an avid trekkie.

10. Star Trek I: The Motion Picture - Way too long, did tell the story though.
Kirk-"For us?" Spock-"No, for Vger"
9. Star Trek VII: Generations - Had its moments, but I felt the ending was lackluster.
Kirk-" It....was fun"
8. Star Trek VIIII: Insurrection - Simply put, this movie felt like one of the regular episodes, just longer.
Riker-" I'm through Running from these bastards"
7. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - The first 30 minutes were great, then it went downhill from there.
McCoy-" Get that damn light outta my face!"
6. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock - Not bad, just not good.
McCoy-" How can you be deaf with ears that big?"
5. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country - I actually liked all the cold war theme it had to it.
Kirk- "We Volunteered?"
4. Star Trek X: Nemesis- Dark theme, great action, it ended with the death of a mian character, but also a rebirth.
Picard- "He thinks he knows me"
3. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - Certainly the mosy humorous of the bunch, nice story, and oddly exciting.
Kirk-"Well, double damn you!"
2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - One word, KHAAANNNN!!!!!
"Kirk-(Any guess?) "KHAAAANNNNNN!!!"
1. Star Trek VIII: First Contact - The Next Generation's crew first stand alone was thier best, told a great story and flowed well.
Picard-"Mr. Data might I suggest you turn off your emotion chip..." Data-"Done"....Picard- "Data there are times when I envy you."

oliegirl · 03-11-2006, 08:16 PM

Whichever one had the whales in it gets my vote...I think it's the only one I've watched voluntarily in my life. I saw Generations when it came out but only b/c I was dragged by the idiot I was dating at the time. Clearly, I saw the light and dumped his trekkie ass!

bosshogg23 · 03-11-2006, 08:17 PM

Generations has always been my favorite with Wrath of Khan and First Contact being close behind.

Wolfpack · 03-11-2006, 08:22 PM

2, 8, 4, 6

Buccaneer · 03-11-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffNights

My top ten rankings as an avid trekkie.

Shatner-"Get a life"

ShovelMonkey · 03-11-2006, 08:34 PM

My Top Four:

ST: II
ST: VI
ST: IV
ST(TNG): First Contact

Kodos · 03-11-2006, 08:35 PM

Hmmm. Everyone loves first contact, but I remember being underwhelmed when I saw it. I was never really into the whole Borg thing. Q was so much more interesting.

Buccaneer · 03-11-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Hmmm. Everyone loves first contact, but I remember being underwhelmed when I saw it. I was never really into the whole Borg thing. Q was so much more interesting.

Same here. Anything from the series or the movies that has the Borg is very unappealing to me.

duckman · 03-11-2006, 09:35 PM

None of them.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-11-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Same here. Anything from the series or the movies that has the Borg is very unappealing to me.

Really? Wow. That two parter that spanned between seasons 3 & 4 where Picard was Locutus and the whole Wolf 359 thing was some of the best Star Trek had to offer, I thought.

Though, anything with the Borg from the Hugh travestry forward was pretty bad. From the Hugh episode on, the Borg became lame, boring, and non-threatening. The whole Lore and the Borg thing was lame. And while I didn't watch it, I just assume anything on Voyager was lame.

While, First Contact was post-Hugh, I still liked it. Thought it worked well.

Galaril · 03-11-2006, 10:40 PM

Are they done making Star Trek movies? It would be sad. I hope they resurrect the trek movies.

saldana · 03-11-2006, 11:09 PM

tough choice for me between 6 and 2....but the plot and writing in undiscovered country was so much snappier and craftier. the whole gigantic Chekov Paradox in Khan has always bothered me as well.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-11-2006, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

tough choice for me between 6 and 2....but the plot and writing in undiscovered country was so much snappier and craftier. the whole gigantic Chekov Paradox in Khan has always bothered me as well.

Chekov paradox? Sounds somewhat familiar... Care to explain again?

Bad-example · 03-12-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Chekov paradox? Sounds somewhat familiar... Care to explain again?

Chekov was not yet a member of the Enterprise crew when the original Khan episode aired, yet Khan makes such a dramatic point of recognizing Chekov in Wrath of Khan.

Of course, the fact that Khan refers to him as Mister...Jackoff!! always seemed a fair tradeoff to me.

gkb · 03-12-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

KHAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!

Exactly.

JeeberD · 03-12-2006, 01:56 AM

If it don't have Troi in it, Jeebie ain't watching it...

Vince · 03-12-2006, 05:43 AM

(Personal opinion of course) The Wrath of Khan was miles beyond any of the other movies. The Voyage Home was great, and I enjoyed The Undiscovered Country. I've always had a problem rating The Next Generation crew against the original cast, so I find it hard to compare Generations or First Contact with any of the 'original' six movies.

sabotai · 03-12-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Hmmm. Everyone loves first contact, but I remember being underwhelmed when I saw it. I was never really into the whole Borg thing. Q was so much more interesting.

I've always wanted Q to show up in the TNG movies, but it never happened. I loved the Borg, but the more they involved them in TNG and Voyager, the weaker they got. Plus the writers of Voyager kept constantly changing the nature of Q that they nearly ruined them as well.

Schmidty · 03-12-2006, 12:33 PM

First Contact was the best by far.

Warhammer · 03-12-2006, 07:31 PM

Wrath of Khan was the best. I always rationalized the whole Checkov thing by figuring that he was on the ship, just not part of the bridge crew yet.

I agree with Kodos(?) that ST3 is very addicting. I hated it at first, but after watching it again, it was pretty good.

View Poll Results: The best Star Trek movie was:
Star Trek I: The Motion Picture	3	3.80%
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan	42	53.16%
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock	0	0%
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home	7	8.86%
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier	0	0%
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country	5	6.33%
Star Trek TNG: Generations	3	3.80%
Star Trek TNG: First Contact	10	12.66%
Star Trek TNG: Insurrection	2	2.53%
Star Trek TNG: Nemesis	2	2.53%
Star Trek VII: The Trout Hole at the Edge of the Universe	5	6.33%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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03-11-2006, 04:18 PM	#8
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03-11-2006, 06:05 PM	#15
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03-11-2006, 07:31 PM	#18
AZSpeechCoach College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Phoenix	The Director's Cut of 1 is still too long, plodding, and boring, but the redone effects shots are really gorgeous. __________________ The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they'll be when you kill them! Visit Stewart the Wonderbear and his amazing travels http://wonderbeartravel.blogspot.com

03-11-2006, 04:13 PM	#4
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Obvious.

03-11-2006, 04:15 PM	#5
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	My favorites were: 1. Wrath of Khan 2. Generations 3. Voyage Home (had a lot of humor in it) 4. Nemesis

03-11-2006, 04:16 PM	#6
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	tough question. "best" meaning what? I could answer any of a couple different ways...

03-11-2006, 04:17 PM	#7
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	2,4,6, 8

03-11-2006, 04:37 PM	#12
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	I picked First Contact, simply because I felt that it was a better stand alone movie than 2, also I think it did a slightly better job of having the spirit of Star Trek and mixing it in with good action and such. Kahn has better moments though.

03-11-2006, 04:39 PM	#13
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Dola, I will say also, that for me 2, 6, and 8 are clearly the best movies. Undiscovered Country is really underrated. Sure, its got some silly moments and might go a bit far on the cold war analogies, but its the best Star Trek has to offer in terms of political intrigue. (Which may not be saying much depending on one's point of view though...)

03-11-2006, 07:07 PM	#16
Bubba Wheels College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Almost got the 'director's cut' of Star Trek 1: The Motion Picture. They supposedly made some fixes to what was pretty much a slide show. BTW, since the thread didn't make the cutoff I'll put it up here...tomorrow night (Sunday) at 8:00 p on History Channel "How William Shatner Changed the Universe!" Has to do with Shatner and all the modern-day gadgets he inspired like cell phones. Then March 22 Shatner is featured in "Living in TV Land." I think he may well be approaching Elvis status!

03-11-2006, 07:08 PM	#17
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I would say 2 was the best but 4 was my personal favorite.

03-11-2006, 07:35 PM	#19
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm pretty sure I've never seen any of these movies. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-11-2006, 07:49 PM	#20
JeffNights College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan	My top ten rankings as an avid trekkie. 10. Star Trek I: The Motion Picture - Way too long, did tell the story though. Kirk-"For us?" Spock-"No, for Vger" 9. Star Trek VII: Generations - Had its moments, but I felt the ending was lackluster. Kirk-" It....was fun" 8. Star Trek VIIII: Insurrection - Simply put, this movie felt like one of the regular episodes, just longer. Riker-" I'm through Running from these bastards" 7. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier - The first 30 minutes were great, then it went downhill from there. McCoy-" Get that damn light outta my face!" 6. Star Trek III: The Search For Spock - Not bad, just not good. McCoy-" How can you be deaf with ears that big?" 5. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country - I actually liked all the cold war theme it had to it. Kirk- "We Volunteered?" 4. Star Trek X: Nemesis- Dark theme, great action, it ended with the death of a mian character, but also a rebirth. Picard- "He thinks he knows me" 3. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - Certainly the mosy humorous of the bunch, nice story, and oddly exciting. Kirk-"Well, double damn you!" 2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - One word, KHAAANNNN!!!!! "Kirk-(Any guess?) "KHAAAANNNNNN!!!" 1. Star Trek VIII: First Contact - The Next Generation's crew first stand alone was thier best, told a great story and flowed well. Picard-"Mr. Data might I suggest you turn off your emotion chip..." Data-"Done"....Picard- "Data there are times when I envy you."

03-11-2006, 08:17 PM	#22
bosshogg23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Philly	Generations has always been my favorite with Wrath of Khan and First Contact being close behind.

03-11-2006, 08:22 PM	#23
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	2, 8, 4, 6

03-11-2006, 08:34 PM	#25
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03-11-2006, 08:35 PM	#26
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Hmmm. Everyone loves first contact, but I remember being underwhelmed when I saw it. I was never really into the whole Borg thing. Q was so much more interesting.

03-11-2006, 10:40 PM	#30
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Are they done making Star Trek movies? It would be sad. I hope they resurrect the trek movies.

03-11-2006, 11:09 PM	#31
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	tough choice for me between 6 and 2....but the plot and writing in undiscovered country was so much snappier and craftier. the whole gigantic Chekov Paradox in Khan has always bothered me as well.

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03-12-2006, 05:43 AM	#36
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	(Personal opinion of course) The Wrath of Khan was miles beyond any of the other movies. The Voyage Home was great, and I enjoyed The Undiscovered Country. I've always had a problem rating The Next Generation crew against the original cast, so I find it hard to compare Generations or First Contact with any of the 'original' six movies. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

03-12-2006, 12:33 PM	#38
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03-12-2006, 07:31 PM	#39
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Wrath of Khan was the best. I always rationalized the whole Checkov thing by figuring that he was on the ship, just not part of the bridge crew yet. I agree with Kodos(?) that ST3 is very addicting. I hated it at first, but after watching it again, it was pretty good.

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