Best stat from SuperBowl

44Niners · 01-27-2003, 12:24 PM

Ten times in the history of the SuperBowl a top3 offensive team has opposed a top 3 defensive team and 9 out of 10 times the top defensive team won the game.

Offense is fun, exciting and might even win you a conference title but…

Defense wins championships!

Anrhydeddu · 01-27-2003, 12:35 PM

I thought this was the best stat as well. Kinda made me wonder why this wasn't emphasized beforehand, esp. among those experts that predicted an easy Raiders victory.

Bee · 01-27-2003, 12:45 PM

I think a lot of people felt the game had changed enough that the old adage that defense wins championships no longer applies. Football is a lot different than it was 20 years ago. With all the rule changes and everything, the offense tends to have an advantage they didn't have in the past.

Not saying I agree with that argument, but that was the thinking I heard before the game from several people who picked Oakland to win.

rkmsuf · 01-27-2003, 12:51 PM

Mostly the lack of confidence in Tampa probably stems from past failures in the playoffs. They've been heavyweights in the past and consistently disappointed.

Also down the stretch they lost their biggest games against NO and Pitt. That Steeler loss had everyone doubting in spite of not having Brad Johnson.

McSweeny · 01-27-2003, 01:03 PM

offense sells tickets
defense wins championships

andy m · 01-27-2003, 01:32 PM

tired cliche.

defense and a productive offense wins championships. put the bucs defense on the field with, say, stan gelbaugh at qb and they don't win the championship.

brad johnson was red hot down the stretch for tampa, and if oakland had managed to keep the bucs running game quiet they would have had way more possession and who knows what might have happened?

it always bugs me when people over simplify things. these people need to read:

a) the hidden game of football
b) http://www.footballproject.com

Anrhydeddu · 01-27-2003, 01:42 PM

Quote:

defense and a productive offense wins championships. put the bucs defense on the field with, say, stan gelbaugh at qb and they don't win the championship.

Which is why I rated the 00 Ravens above the 02 Bucs. Ravens had a Stan Gelbaugh at QB...and still won the championship, did they not?

SackAttack · 01-27-2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by andy m
tired cliche.

defense and a productive offense wins championships. put the bucs defense on the field with, say, stan gelbaugh at qb and they don't win the championship.

brad johnson was red hot down the stretch for tampa, and if oakland had managed to keep the bucs running game quiet they would have had way more possession and who knows what might have happened?

I doubt if much of anything would have happened differently if Johnson hadn't been red hot. The Raiders didn't manage much more than a whimper of protest, and the Bucs had, what, 3 interceptions run back for touchdowns in the 2nd half? That's 75% of their 2nd half points generated by the defense. Johnson may have been moving the chains, but he wasn't doing much else.

Josh

Ksyrup · 01-27-2003, 02:31 PM

For this game, johnson was horribly inaccurate in the 1st half, until the last drive.

01-27-2003, 12:51 PM	#4
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Mostly the lack of confidence in Tampa probably stems from past failures in the playoffs. They've been heavyweights in the past and consistently disappointed. Also down the stretch they lost their biggest games against NO and Pitt. That Steeler loss had everyone doubting in spite of not having Brad Johnson. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-27-2003, 01:32 PM	#6
andy m High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: norwich, UK	tired cliche. defense and a productive offense wins championships. put the bucs defense on the field with, say, stan gelbaugh at qb and they don't win the championship. brad johnson was red hot down the stretch for tampa, and if oakland had managed to keep the bucs running game quiet they would have had way more possession and who knows what might have happened? it always bugs me when people over simplify things. these people need to read: a) the hidden game of football b) http://www.footballproject.com __________________ mostly harmless FOFL 2009 champs - Norwich Quagmire

01-27-2003, 02:31 PM	#9
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	For this game, johnson was horribly inaccurate in the 1st half, until the last drive. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-27-2003, 12:35 PM	#2
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	I thought this was the best stat as well. Kinda made me wonder why this wasn't emphasized beforehand, esp. among those experts that predicted an easy Raiders victory.

01-27-2003, 12:45 PM	#3
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I think a lot of people felt the game had changed enough that the old adage that defense wins championships no longer applies. Football is a lot different than it was 20 years ago. With all the rule changes and everything, the offense tends to have an advantage they didn't have in the past. Not saying I agree with that argument, but that was the thinking I heard before the game from several people who picked Oakland to win.

01-27-2003, 01:03 PM	#5
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	offense sells tickets defense wins championships

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