Biofuels?

st.cronin · 01-13-2006, 12:54 PM

Anybody knowledgable about biofuels?

There's a couple of stations here that sell biofuels. Some days the price is cheaper, some days it's pricier. I have been using biofuels if the price is lower, otherwise just regular unleaded for my Sebring.

I have a couple of questions - should I expect my mileage to be better, the same, or worse? And are the claims that it will increase the lifespan of my engine true?

Just poking around the web it seems like there's a lot of skepticism about the usefulness of biofuels, and the accuracy of their claims.

Cringer · 01-13-2006, 12:57 PM

They have them in NM eh? That's interesting. Only place I ever knew for sure where they were is Iowa and Minnesota. They sell bio-diesel there.

st.cronin · 01-13-2006, 12:59 PM

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing them in Wisconsin as well.

Cringer · 01-13-2006, 01:01 PM

Probably. I just know Iowa and Minnesota because they are talked about a lot there, since they are the ones who make a lot of it. (Corn based I think)

rkmsuf · 01-13-2006, 01:02 PM

Create your own biofuels after a hearty taco bell session.

Raiders Army · 01-13-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Create your own biofuels after a hearty taco bell session.

Exactly what I was thinking.

miked · 01-13-2006, 01:15 PM

Or you can get one of those things that Dr. Brown had in Back to the Future 2 or whatever. You can just pour some trash in the thingy and get some fuel like that. I think I saw some dude selling them down the street here.

Mustang · 01-13-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Create your own biofuels after a hearty taco bell session.

Taco Bell is starting to become like Chuck Norris around here...

PilotMan · 01-13-2006, 02:56 PM

I think that it would be easier to retrofit all cars so that they could run on corn alcohol or gasoline. It would be something that we could produce in abundance and it is a technology that we already have access to.

Desnudo · 01-13-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Anybody knowledgable about biofuels?

There's a couple of stations here that sell biofuels. Some days the price is cheaper, some days it's pricier. I have been using biofuels if the price is lower, otherwise just regular unleaded for my Sebring.

I have a couple of questions - should I expect my mileage to be better, the same, or worse? And are the claims that it will increase the lifespan of my engine true?

Just poking around the web it seems like there's a lot of skepticism about the usefulness of biofuels, and the accuracy of their claims.

A commonly seen biofuel is biodiesel which can be made from oil produced from crops like soy beans or rape seed. The main benefit is that it runs clean versus regular diesel. Properly produced biodiesel is of high quality and is different than pouring a gallon of french fry oil into the tank. Obviously you need a diesel engine to run it.

It's become pretty popular in the Northwest. VW is selling a ton of diesels in the Seattle area.

Coder · 01-13-2006, 03:49 PM

My new Volvo S40 runs on Etanol (E85) or regular unleaded gasoline.. using Etanol, it actually consumes more fuel per mile than regular gasoline, but since the gas is heavily taxed here in Sweden, I still come out ahead.. Consumption is about 30% higher with E85 than with regular gasoline.

Another popular biofuel here is "gas".. hmm.. don't know what the translation is but these cars require two tanks, one for the gas and one for the gasoline (you can run both), while my car can mix any mix of E85 and regular gasoline.

Not sure if that's what you mean by biofuels but anyway.

3ric · 01-14-2006, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coder

Another popular biofuel here is "gas".. hmm.. don't know what the translation is but these cars require two tanks, one for the gas and one for the gasoline (you can run both), while my car can mix any mix of E85 and regular gasoline.

Could be that is what's called "wood gas" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biofuel

sterlingice · 01-14-2006, 03:29 PM

A couple of years ago when my wife was in journalism school at Mizzou, one of their projects was putting together an ad campaign for BioDiesel. I seem to remember her being pretty impressed with the stats on it.

SI

01-13-2006, 12:57 PM	#2
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	They have them in NM eh? That's interesting. Only place I ever knew for sure where they were is Iowa and Minnesota. They sell bio-diesel there. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

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st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm pretty sure I remember seeing them in Wisconsin as well. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-13-2006, 01:01 PM	#4
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Probably. I just know Iowa and Minnesota because they are talked about a lot there, since they are the ones who make a lot of it. (Corn based I think) __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

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01-13-2006, 01:15 PM	#7
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Or you can get one of those things that Dr. Brown had in Back to the Future 2 or whatever. You can just pour some trash in the thingy and get some fuel like that. I think I saw some dude selling them down the street here.

01-13-2006, 03:49 PM	#11
Coder College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden	My new Volvo S40 runs on Etanol (E85) or regular unleaded gasoline.. using Etanol, it actually consumes more fuel per mile than regular gasoline, but since the gas is heavily taxed here in Sweden, I still come out ahead.. Consumption is about 30% higher with E85 than with regular gasoline. Another popular biofuel here is "gas".. hmm.. don't know what the translation is but these cars require two tanks, one for the gas and one for the gasoline (you can run both), while my car can mix any mix of E85 and regular gasoline. Not sure if that's what you mean by biofuels but anyway. __________________ IFL - Vermont Mountaineers ~ I am an idiot, walking a tight rope of fortunate things ~

01-14-2006, 03:29 PM	#13
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	A couple of years ago when my wife was in journalism school at Mizzou, one of their projects was putting together an ad campaign for BioDiesel. I seem to remember her being pretty impressed with the stats on it. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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