MSU-Gonzaga

hoopsguy · 11-22-2005, 08:14 PM

Anyone watching this game on ESPN? Heading into OT, teams have been trading clutch buckets for the last three minutes of regulation.

hoopsguy · 11-22-2005, 08:16 PM

Ager has four threes in the last 4:30 minutes of the game. But everyone is playing big, with the exception of Shannon Brown and his leg cramps for the 2nd game of the tourney.

miami_fan · 11-22-2005, 08:17 PM

Nice game. Nice to see good free throw shooting by both teams

kingfc22 · 11-22-2005, 08:17 PM

Late March type of game so far. Morrison and Ager have been unstoppable.

hoopsguy · 11-22-2005, 08:18 PM

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Nice game. Nice to see good free throw shooting by both teams

Yep, 33-33 combined foul shooting from the teams in 2nd half + early OT.

Post order a little funky, so including the quote ...

kingfc22 · 11-22-2005, 08:31 PM

Double OT coming up

kingfc22 · 11-22-2005, 08:44 PM

Triple OT

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 08:46 PM

Of course I'm watching. Too nervous to comment right now.

Easy Mac · 11-22-2005, 09:01 PM

Morrison looks like Mandy Patinkin from The Princess Bride

MJ4H · 11-22-2005, 09:02 PM

That was a bizarre ending to OT1.

sovereignstar · 11-22-2005, 09:03 PM

I'm listening to the game through Yahoo. It's probably delayed by two minutes. No spoilers!!!

Easy Mac · 11-22-2005, 09:04 PM

Too damn bad. How the fuck was that a held ball?

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:07 PM

FUCKING BULLSHIT NO-CALL!!!!!!!!!!!

MSU WAS SCREWED!!!!!!!

FUCK GONZAGA!!!!!!!!! FUCK THE FUCKING REFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vtbub · 11-22-2005, 09:08 PM

Buzzer went off early.

Easy Mac · 11-22-2005, 09:08 PM

Are you kidding? There was no foul man, not even close.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:09 PM

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Are you kidding? There was no foul man, not even close.

Shut the hell up. Brown got knocked down. Watched it on Tivo 5 times already.

It was bullshit. Now sit the fuck down.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:10 PM

Dude flew right into him.

There are no moral victories. I don't care how we "fought". This loss sucked balls.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:12 PM

Refs that swallow their whistles at the end of the game are cowards.

Too afraid to face the conequences of your foul call? Become an insurance salesman. Dumbfucks.

sovereignstar · 11-22-2005, 09:13 PM

Quick, someone grab the taiser!

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:15 PM

I watched the play again, and Brown didn't fall, but he was knocked back. The defender was leaning into him. At any other point in the game, that would be an easy foul call. Coward refs need their asses beat.

mgadfly · 11-22-2005, 09:35 PM

No foul. Great game though.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mgadfly

No foul. Great game though.

You don't know much about basketball.

Easy Mac · 11-22-2005, 09:38 PM

Schmidty sounds like a Maryland fan

Honolulu_Blue · 11-22-2005, 09:39 PM

Poor Sparty...

miami_fan · 11-22-2005, 09:41 PM

Good no call. The defender made a good play and he tried to get bailed out by the ref.

TargetPractice6 · 11-22-2005, 09:42 PM

HAH! An MSU fan complaining about a late no-call? How comical.

Karma is a bitch isn't it?

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

HAH! An MSU fan complaining about a late no-call? How comical.

Karma is a bitch isn't it?

What the fuck are you talking about?

We've been burned over and over by this crap. I remember that horrible rip-off of a game back in 1990 where Georgia Tech pulled the biggest rip-off I've ever seen to keep MSU out of the Final Four. I hate you Kenny Anderson.

TargetPractice6 · 11-22-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

What the fuck are you talking about?

We've been burned over and over by this crap. I remember that horrible rip-off of a game back in 1990 where Georgia Tech pulled the biggest rip-off I've ever seen to keep MSU out of the Final Four. I hate you Kenny Anderson.

You don't remember Sparks getting hacked on that last second three? If the right call is made you most likely don't make the Final Four last year. Excuse me while I play the world's smallest violin.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

You don't remember Sparks getting hacked on that last second three? If the right call is made you most likely don't make the Final Four last year. Excuse me while I play the world's smallest violin.

Nope. Sparks wasn't even remotely hacked. In fact, I remember rolling my eyes at the whiners like you regarding that call. There was nothing definitive about that call, unlike this one where the guy leaned right into Brown making solid contact.

TargetPractice6 · 11-22-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Nope. Sparks wasn't even remotely hacked. In fact, I remember rolling my eyes at the whiners like you regarding that call. There was nothing definitive about that call, unlike this one where the guy leaned right into Brown making solid contact.

Hah! You're view is just infallible I guess. Everybody else is saying there was no foul, but you are right because you say so. You really just need to shut up and quit whining about a pre-season tournament game. There was more contact on Sparks' shot that there was tonight.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

Hah! You're view is just infallible I guess. Everybody else is saying there was no foul, but you are right because you say so. You really just need to shut up and quit whining about a pre-season tournament game. There was more contact on Sparks' shot that there was tonight.

So basically you're saying you're a hypocrite. You tell me to quit whining, while at the same time you're whining about a non-existant foul on Sparky.

kingfc22 · 11-22-2005, 10:07 PM

Schmidty - You really crack me up sometimes. He didn't even have control of the ball on the way up. And I bet you think that held ball was the correct call too.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Schmidty - You really crack me up sometimes. He didn't even have control of the ball on the way up. And I bet you think that held ball was the correct call too.

How many times have you seen the play? He had obvious control of the ball. I have NO idea what you were watching, but from the many times I've looked at it, control never even came up as an issue. I think you need to re-think your argument.

Also, no I don't agree with the held ball; however, that had no affect on the outcome. In fact, it actually took more time off the clock for state, since the Zags had to inbound the ball again.

Next.

TargetPractice6 · 11-22-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

So basically you're saying you're a hypocrite. You tell me to quit whining, while at the same time you're whining about a non-existant foul on Sparky.

I'm not whining about it, I'm only pointing out the absurdity of an MSU fan going ape-shit over a no-call (in a November game!) after that blatant miss on Sparks last year. Anyway, I think I'm done with this thread.

Miss possible late call that MSU can benefit from = Refs are cowards.
Miss possible late call that would hurt MSU = Refs get it right.

Why do I even bother trying to argue that logic?

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

I'm not whining about it, I'm only pointing out the absurdity of an MSU fan going ape-shit over a no-call (in a November game!) after that blatant miss on Sparks last year.

That's where we disagree. I don't think the Sparks thing was necessarily a foul, while I think the Brown incident was an obvious foul.

We aren't coming from the same point of view.

Regardless, you just keep hating on State, and we'll just keep going to Final Fours and beating your asses in the Tourney.

Mr. Wednesday · 11-22-2005, 10:20 PM

I would bet that nine times out of ten, that is not called a foul. I'm not saying there was no contact at all, but I think Brown was trying to create a call.

TargetPractice6 · 11-22-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

That's where we disagree. I don't think the Sparks thing was necessarily a foul, while I think the Brown incident was an obvious foul.

We aren't coming from the same point of view.

Regardless, you just keep hating on State, and we'll just keep going to Final Fours and beating your asses in the Tourney.

Sorry, guess I'm not done with this thread, but I had to throw this out there.

I'm not hating on State. In fact I like MSU a lot and think Izzo is a great coach. After you beat us I wanted nothing more than to see you guys beat UNC and win the championship. The only thing that got me into this thread was you flipping out over a no-call when I feel you greatly benefitted from a far more questionable one when the stakes were much greater.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I would bet that nine times out of ten, that is not called a foul. I'm not saying there was no contact at all, but I think Brown was trying to create a call.

Ok, I can handle that. You are admitting that it could have been a foul. Now, I disagree with you about the percentage, but I appreciate the fact that you can at least see that it could have been.

Regardless of everything though, I despise how refs become cowards at the end of the game. The rules are the rules. The fact that the rules change at the end of close games is shady, cowardly and wrong.

Schmidty · 11-22-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

Sorry, guess I'm not done with this thread, but I had to throw this out there.

I'm not hating on State. In fact I like MSU a lot and think Izzo is a great coach. After you beat us I wanted nothing more than to see you guys beat UNC and win the championship. The only thing that got me into this thread was you flipping out over a no-call when I feel you greatly benefitted from a far more questionable one when the stakes were much greater.

Hey man, I don't hate U-K either. I love Tubby and always root for you guys when you aren't playing us. Hell, one of my favorite NBA players is Tayshaun Prince. I understand where you're coming from being frustrated over a call.

I admit it: I'm an emotional guy who takes his sports extremely (too?) seriously. But I like that about me, and respect others who are ardent defenders of their teams too.

TargetPractice6 · 11-22-2005, 10:43 PM

Prince is incredibly popular here.

He's the reason many in central Kentucky (including myself) have adopted the Pistons as their favorite NBA team.

Not that this map is reliable, but I don't think half of Kentucky liking the Pistons is a coincidence http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=3

11-22-2005, 08:17 PM	#4
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Late March type of game so far. Morrison and Ager have been unstoppable. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 11-22-2005 at 08:17 PM.

11-22-2005, 08:31 PM	#6
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Double OT coming up __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-22-2005, 08:44 PM	#7
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Triple OT __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-22-2005, 08:46 PM	#8
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Of course I'm watching. Too nervous to comment right now. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

11-22-2005, 09:02 PM	#10
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11-22-2005, 08:16 PM	#2
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Ager has four threes in the last 4:30 minutes of the game. But everyone is playing big, with the exception of Shannon Brown and his leg cramps for the 2nd game of the tourney.

11-22-2005, 08:17 PM	#3
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Nice game. Nice to see good free throw shooting by both teams

11-22-2005, 09:01 PM	#9
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Morrison looks like Mandy Patinkin from The Princess Bride

11-22-2005, 09:03 PM	#11
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I'm listening to the game through Yahoo. It's probably delayed by two minutes. No spoilers!!!

11-22-2005, 09:04 PM	#12
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Too damn bad. How the fuck was that a held ball?

11-22-2005, 09:07 PM	#13
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	FUCKING BULLSHIT NO-CALL!!!!!!!!!!! MSU WAS SCREWED!!!!!!! FUCK GONZAGA!!!!!!!!! FUCK THE FUCKING REFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

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vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Buzzer went off early. __________________

11-22-2005, 09:10 PM	#17
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Dude flew right into him. There are no moral victories. I don't care how we "fought". This loss sucked balls. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

11-22-2005, 09:12 PM	#18
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Refs that swallow their whistles at the end of the game are cowards. Too afraid to face the conequences of your foul call? Become an insurance salesman. Dumbfucks. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

11-22-2005, 09:13 PM	#19
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Quick, someone grab the taiser!

11-22-2005, 09:15 PM	#20
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I watched the play again, and Brown didn't fall, but he was knocked back. The defender was leaning into him. At any other point in the game, that would be an easy foul call. Coward refs need their asses beat. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

11-22-2005, 09:35 PM	#21
mgadfly High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2003	No foul. Great game though.

11-22-2005, 09:38 PM	#23
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Schmidty sounds like a Maryland fan

11-22-2005, 09:39 PM	#24
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11-22-2005, 09:41 PM	#25
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Good no call. The defender made a good play and he tried to get bailed out by the ref.

11-22-2005, 09:42 PM	#26
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	HAH! An MSU fan complaining about a late no-call? How comical. Karma is a bitch isn't it?

11-22-2005, 10:07 PM	#32
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Schmidty - You really crack me up sometimes. He didn't even have control of the ball on the way up. And I bet you think that held ball was the correct call too. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

11-22-2005, 10:20 PM	#36
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	I would bet that nine times out of ten, that is not called a foul. I'm not saying there was no contact at all, but I think Brown was trying to create a call. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

11-22-2005, 10:43 PM	#40
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	Prince is incredibly popular here. He's the reason many in central Kentucky (including myself) have adopted the Pistons as their favorite NBA team. Not that this map is reliable, but I don't think half of Kentucky liking the Pistons is a coincidence http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=3

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