Cheating.....GMac-ing going on!

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 09:59 PM

Is it legal to cut a player you just drafted and sign him to the league minimum With NO Bonus:
without giving any other team a shot to SIGN your newly cut PLAYER!

This was done in a 1-3week right after the DRAFT!
The TEAM cut the player they just drafted and signed him back during this time. No other team saw this player...that he was cut. Do to the FACT that the same team signed him back to the league minimum!>????
HELP!

Joe · 10-24-2005, 10:02 PM

clown?

gottimd · 10-24-2005, 10:08 PM

Who are you calling a clown?

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 10:10 PM

im called clown in my league...I dont want to state my league name....I dont want my commish mad at me.....
isnt this cheating!
cutting rookies signing them back at lower offers!
with NO bonus!

sovereignstar · 10-24-2005, 10:11 PM

uh.. yeah

SackAttack · 10-24-2005, 10:16 PM

If you're called Clown in your league, and your commish reads the boards here, won't he know anyway?

And why wouldn't you want him mad at you?

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 10:19 PM

PRIMETIME....we just booted gmac...and this guy didnt stop!
mind you were talking rounds 4-7 but i can see he's done it 2years in a row!

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 10:22 PM

cuz im new.....and I like the league...I dont want to lose my spot this game is the greatest game ever!

Poli · 10-24-2005, 10:23 PM

This thread has possibilities.

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 10:28 PM

anyone else help me on this cheating issue?

DaddyTorgo · 10-24-2005, 10:29 PM

as long as your GM isn't a douche and isn't in cahoots with this owner he should be happy man. and if he is an ass then you should just find a new MP league anyways.

Flasch186 · 10-24-2005, 10:30 PM

tell your commish, he wont be mad, he would be thankful that you exposed this...unless the commish is cheating himself which them. well, leave the league anyways.

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 10:36 PM

THIS IS MY 1ST AND ONLY LEAGUE!
I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BRANCH OUT AND DO MORE THAN 1.
I told the commish thats the 1st thing I did.
We have a Great commish!
---
I must say I found this one.
Can't people just play honestly
I was 9-7 last year my 1st year ever!
I've got a nice draft this year I hope to win 10

Nwobhm · 10-24-2005, 10:43 PM

At least he coined the new term "Gmac-ing"

kcchief19 · 10-24-2005, 11:35 PM

Uncle Leo?

Clown2 · 10-24-2005, 11:40 PM

I am not very good at this game.
I want to be.

I started during the free agency: reading every log, every cut, every signing, every move.
I wanted to be like those who made the playoffs.
I watched who they signed. I tried to figure out why they signed them.
I really appreciate those of you who are good.
Today I stumbled upon something.

1) An owner who I was looking up to and trying to mirror his game.
Cut his 3 draft picks....I said why.... then he signed them again.
The same week which said...No one had the chance to sign them. Other than him.

His 4th rounder had no bonus while all the other 4th rounders spent 400,000 on the bonus.
you might say he took the chance in dumping them. Not really no one else saw them...
because he resigned them while the sim went from week 1 to week 3!

I must say today I was joking with this owner saying I was in his pocket taking small change to eat at subway.....
I hadn't found this information yet I was joking ...because I wanted to beat him. Beat him fair and square.
I'm very sad today.....I really like this owner.
I don't know if he is doing other things...that are considered not right....
I consider this owner a friend a good FRIEND.

signed a very very sad CLOWN#2

sovereignstar · 10-24-2005, 11:50 PM

Good stuff. It does look like one 'raider1' is pulling the same shit that got an owner in the same league sacked just a few weeks ago.

And this raider1 guy is a mod on the board. Classy.

sovereignstar · 10-25-2005, 12:03 AM

Shit, my bad. He's the Assistant Commish.

Nwobhm · 10-25-2005, 12:18 AM

He's also a member of the rules committee over there.

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2005, 12:18 AM

classy fucking league there. in my mind commish/asst. commish should really be banned from having teams, just so they don't involved in these types of things

monte_mcguire · 10-25-2005, 12:34 AM

"PRIMETIME". We are working on the cheating problems and will get this fixed ASAP !!!!

Clown2 · 10-25-2005, 12:38 AM

PrimeTime Football is a great League:
Our commish is a VERY HONEST commish.
I don't think its right to say anything bad about him!

sovereignstar · 10-25-2005, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monte_mcguire

"PRIMETIME". We are working on the cheating problems and will get this fixed ASAP !!!!

Clown3???

Clown2 · 10-25-2005, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Clown3???

Monte McGuire is Clown 1 and ...do I ....smell a Stangger?

sovereignstar · 10-25-2005, 12:46 AM

Who's this clown then??

Clown2 · 10-25-2005, 12:49 AM

dam....IM CUTE!
SHANE MCGUIRE
PROUD MEMBER OF PRIMETIME FOOTBALL
Future owner of a team in the IHOF.....
and Trophy Winner!

official GMAC inspector and MAD capilator
clown#2

clown#1

monte_mcguire · 10-25-2005, 01:00 AM

I don't remember signing a waiver to post my pics !!!!

!!!! I'll live... You don't need to be smart when your this good lookin'

Clown2 · 10-25-2005, 01:03 AM

Hide your players and Donkeys the Clowns are out for Blood!

sovereignstar · 10-25-2005, 01:06 AM

Do either of you clowns know anything about some pesky, little ice weasels that are on the loose?

Galaxy · 10-25-2005, 01:18 AM

I'm so lost....I keep think I'm gonna finance my car through GMAC.

Icy · 10-25-2005, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SackAttack

If you're called Clown in your league, and your commish reads the boards here, won't he know anyway?

And why wouldn't you want him mad at you?

He is clown2 here, not clown, no way his league commish could know he is with that drastic nick change. Nobody would recognice you if you change your nick to SackAttack2

SackAttack · 10-25-2005, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy

He is clown2 here, not clown, no way his league commish could know he is with that drastic nick change. Nobody would recognice you if you change your nick to SackAttack2

Why didn't I think of that?

WrongWay · 10-25-2005, 03:30 AM

This is not exactly the same thing as Gmac-ing.

Gmac-ing involded using the Commisioner's Mode of the game to import and export fake stage files in order to "resign" your rookies players. The Gmac cheat never had the players hitting the Free Agent market.

This Dirty play only involves using the normal Particpant mode to hopefully sign a player for lower money. The players who are cut and then hopefully resigned still become free agents and go through the Free Agent process. This does not guarantee they will sign or that some team set to computer control may not put a bid on them either for those Free Agent stages.

It is still a Dirty, but it is not out and out cheating. Barring League House rules of course.

jamesUMD · 10-25-2005, 06:33 AM

Teams do not cut draft picks that are viable NFL players, so that they can sign them to lower offers. If anything the player would be much more likely to tell the team that drafted him, "due to past injustices, my client refuses to play for your team."

I disagree that this is not cheating. If I catch someone doing this in WigFL, I will dump every last penny I have into making sure that those players never make it onto the team that drafted them, and will go over every transaction they make with a fine tooth comb.

Izulde · 10-25-2005, 07:27 AM

Gmacing is a nifty term though.

cuervo72 · 10-25-2005, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Uncle Leo?

hahahahaha

Raiders Army · 10-25-2005, 07:53 AM

This is like the Twilight Zone of FOFC.

QuikSand · 10-25-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongWay

This Dirty play only involves using the normal Particpant mode to hopefully sign a player for lower money. The players who are cut and then hopefully resigned still become free agents and go through the Free Agent process. This does not guarantee they will sign or that some team set to computer control may not put a bid on them either for those Free Agent stages.

It is still a Dirty, but it is not out and out cheating. Barring League House rules of course.

This is out-and-out cheating to me... and if your view represents something shared by opponents in my leagues, I'll lobby for a rule to explicitly make this bullshit illegal.

gottimd · 10-25-2005, 07:56 AM

I have a grand idea.....just play the game the way it is supposed to be played like the other GM's do in your league and stop trying to find loop holes.

wade moore · 10-25-2005, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottimd

I have a grand idea.....just play the game the way it is supposed to be played like the other GM's do in your league and stop trying to find loop holes.

This is crazy-talk.

gottimd · 10-25-2005, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore

This is crazy-talk.

I've gone looney bins.

sachmo71 · 10-25-2005, 08:31 AM

i thought the clowns were franklincapiscumnobles?

Hoya1 · 10-25-2005, 09:05 AM

What other leagues is this guy in? Is it easy to tell?

Hoya1 · 10-25-2005, 09:09 AM

From the Primetime forums

Quote:

I agree, you have caught me red handed and I shall resign effective immediatley. Here are the keys to my team, it was a good run. Good luck to you all.

and 10 mins later...

Quote:

Wait a minute...how am I cheating? If you rookies can explain it in a way that will clearly state that I have cheated in some form or fashion, I will gladly step a side.

Flasch186 · 10-25-2005, 09:16 AM

then the commish should tell him "fuck you, take a walk."

rkmsuf · 10-25-2005, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Uncle Leo?

Heeellllooooo.

Ajaxab · 10-25-2005, 09:29 AM

Do you remember your cousin Jeffrey? Do you know what his favorite animal is? It's the leopard. He likes its spots.

PackerFanatic · 10-25-2005, 09:43 AM

I am so confused by this thread, lol.

But from what it sounds like, this is exactly what GMac did.

rkmsuf · 10-25-2005, 09:44 AM

Uncle Leo, look at yourself. You're an adonis.

JeeberD · 10-25-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I am so confused by this thread, lol.

But from what it sounds like, this is exactly what GMac did.

Nah, it's not what Gmac did, but it IS cheating. This is something that Kodos pointed out over at IHOF during the whole Gmac thing...if you cut a rookie before you sign him (or, in fact, any player...but the impact isn't as dramatic since you take a cap hit) you can offer him a contract for much less DURING THE EXACT SAME STAGE. No other team has a chance to offer him a contract before he re-signs with your team. And free agents almost always accept offers (as long as they're not too low) during non-free agency periods.

10-24-2005, 10:08 PM	#3
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Who are you calling a clown? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-24-2005, 10:10 PM	#4
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	clown! im called clown in my league...I dont want to state my league name....I dont want my commish mad at me..... isnt this cheating! cutting rookies signing them back at lower offers! with NO bonus! Last edited by Clown2 : 10-24-2005 at 10:10 PM.

10-24-2005, 10:19 PM	#7
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	PRIMETIME! PRIMETIME....we just booted gmac...and this guy didnt stop! mind you were talking rounds 4-7 but i can see he's done it 2years in a row!

10-24-2005, 10:22 PM	#8
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	cheating cuz im new.....and I like the league...I dont want to lose my spot this game is the greatest game ever!

10-24-2005, 10:23 PM	#9
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	This thread has possibilities. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-24-2005, 10:02 PM	#2
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	clown?

10-24-2005, 10:11 PM	#5
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	uh.. yeah

10-24-2005, 10:16 PM	#6
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	If you're called Clown in your league, and your commish reads the boards here, won't he know anyway? And why wouldn't you want him mad at you?

10-24-2005, 10:28 PM	#10
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	bought the game in august i'm way addicted anyone else help me on this cheating issue?

10-24-2005, 10:29 PM	#11
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	as long as your GM isn't a douche and isn't in cahoots with this owner he should be happy man. and if he is an ass then you should just find a new MP league anyways.

10-24-2005, 10:30 PM	#12
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	tell your commish, he wont be mad, he would be thankful that you exposed this...unless the commish is cheating himself which them. well, leave the league anyways. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-24-2005, 10:36 PM	#13
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	PRIMETIME FOOTBALL IS A GREAT LEAGUE! THIS IS MY 1ST AND ONLY LEAGUE! I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BRANCH OUT AND DO MORE THAN 1. I told the commish thats the 1st thing I did. We have a Great commish! --- I must say I found this one. Can't people just play honestly I was 9-7 last year my 1st year ever! I've got a nice draft this year I hope to win 10

10-24-2005, 10:43 PM	#14
Nwobhm Mascot Join Date: Sep 2002	At least he coined the new term "Gmac-ing"

10-24-2005, 11:35 PM	#15
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Uncle Leo?

10-24-2005, 11:40 PM	#16
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	I am not very good at this game. I want to be. I started during the free agency: reading every log, every cut, every signing, every move. I wanted to be like those who made the playoffs. I watched who they signed. I tried to figure out why they signed them. I really appreciate those of you who are good. Today I stumbled upon something. 1) An owner who I was looking up to and trying to mirror his game. Cut his 3 draft picks....I said why.... then he signed them again. The same week which said...No one had the chance to sign them. Other than him. His 4th rounder had no bonus while all the other 4th rounders spent 400,000 on the bonus. you might say he took the chance in dumping them. Not really no one else saw them... because he resigned them while the sim went from week 1 to week 3! I must say today I was joking with this owner saying I was in his pocket taking small change to eat at subway..... I hadn't found this information yet I was joking ...because I wanted to beat him. Beat him fair and square. I'm very sad today.....I really like this owner. I don't know if he is doing other things...that are considered not right.... I consider this owner a friend a good FRIEND. signed a very very sad CLOWN#2

10-24-2005, 11:50 PM	#17
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Good stuff. It does look like one 'raider1' is pulling the same shit that got an owner in the same league sacked just a few weeks ago. And this raider1 guy is a mod on the board. Classy.

10-25-2005, 12:03 AM	#18
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Shit, my bad. He's the Assistant Commish.

10-25-2005, 12:18 AM	#19
Nwobhm Mascot Join Date: Sep 2002	He's also a member of the rules committee over there.

10-25-2005, 12:34 AM	#21
monte_mcguire n00b Join Date: Aug 2005	"PRIMETIME". We are working on the cheating problems and will get this fixed ASAP !!!!

10-25-2005, 12:38 AM	#22
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	Our Commish is a GREAT COMMISH! PrimeTime Football is a great League: Our commish is a VERY HONEST commish. I don't think its right to say anything bad about him!

10-25-2005, 12:46 AM	#25
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Who's this clown then??

10-25-2005, 12:49 AM	#26
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	thats clown#2 dam....IM CUTE! SHANE MCGUIRE PROUD MEMBER OF PRIMETIME FOOTBALL Future owner of a team in the IHOF..... and Trophy Winner! official GMAC inspector and MAD capilator clown#2 clown#1 Last edited by Clown2 : 10-25-2005 at 07:55 AM.

10-25-2005, 01:00 AM	#27
monte_mcguire n00b Join Date: Aug 2005	I don't remember signing a waiver to post my pics !!!! !!!! I'll live... You don't need to be smart when your this good lookin' Last edited by monte_mcguire : 10-25-2005 at 01:01 AM.

10-25-2005, 01:03 AM	#28
Clown2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2005	Freaking Clown Breakout Tonight Hide your players and Donkeys the Clowns are out for Blood!

10-25-2005, 01:06 AM	#29
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Do either of you clowns know anything about some pesky, little ice weasels that are on the loose?

10-25-2005, 01:18 AM	#30
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I'm so lost....I keep think I'm gonna finance my car through GMAC.

10-25-2005, 03:30 AM	#33
WrongWay Banned Join Date: Jan 2005	This is not exactly the same thing as Gmac-ing. Gmac-ing involded using the Commisioner's Mode of the game to import and export fake stage files in order to "resign" your rookies players. The Gmac cheat never had the players hitting the Free Agent market. This Dirty play only involves using the normal Particpant mode to hopefully sign a player for lower money. The players who are cut and then hopefully resigned still become free agents and go through the Free Agent process. This does not guarantee they will sign or that some team set to computer control may not put a bid on them either for those Free Agent stages. It is still a Dirty, but it is not out and out cheating. Barring League House rules of course.

10-25-2005, 06:33 AM	#34
jamesUMD High School JV Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD	Teams do not cut draft picks that are viable NFL players, so that they can sign them to lower offers. If anything the player would be much more likely to tell the team that drafted him, "due to past injustices, my client refuses to play for your team." I disagree that this is not cheating. If I catch someone doing this in WigFL, I will dump every last penny I have into making sure that those players never make it onto the team that drafted them, and will go over every transaction they make with a fine tooth comb. __________________ HailtotheRedskins!

10-25-2005, 07:27 AM	#35
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Gmacing is a nifty term though. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-25-2005, 07:53 AM	#37
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	This is like the Twilight Zone of FOFC.

10-25-2005, 07:56 AM	#39
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	I have a grand idea.....just play the game the way it is supposed to be played like the other GM's do in your league and stop trying to find loop holes. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-25-2005, 08:31 AM	#42
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	i thought the clowns were franklincapiscumnobles?

10-25-2005, 09:05 AM	#43
Hoya1 High School JV Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario	What other leagues is this guy in? Is it easy to tell?

10-25-2005, 09:16 AM	#45
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	then the commish should tell him "fuck you, take a walk." __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-25-2005, 09:29 AM	#47
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	Do you remember your cousin Jeffrey? Do you know what his favorite animal is? It's the leopard. He likes its spots.