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Yes. (If yes, then suggest a response below.) 50 68.49%
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:25 PM   #1
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Wink Should I bother to respond again to this clown?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FOFC

Quote:
Hey man, I can't post on FOFC anymore! Something happened to my account. Can you look into it?

Thanks man!

GroundCat


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: GroundCat banned?

Mr SkyDog, I logged in as a guess and saw that GroundCat was BANNED!

What happened man? I don't know what I did wrong. Did I say "ass" too much? I'll stop if that's it.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FOFC

You gotta let me back in man!

I won't use curse words anymore.

GroundCat



-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FOFC

I still can't get in. Can you please let me know what's going on?

Is there a rebuild time on unbanning or something?

GroundCat


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: DOOD!

DOOD!

I still haven't heard form you! I can't get in FOFC!

Help me man!

GroundCat

So at this point, after four e-mails from him, I decide, "Ah, what the heck, I'll throw him a bone and at least respond."

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Ben Lewis wrote:
I know you can't get in. You're banned.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: DOOD!

DOOD!

I still haven't heard form you! I can't get in FOFC!

Help me man!

GroundCat

Since then....
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:16 PM
To: Ben Lewis
Subject: RE: DOOD!

What happened man!

Was it the cursing? 'cause I can stop that!

GroundCat


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: DOOD!

DOOD!

When is this black on black internet violence ever going to end!

GroundCat



-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: HEY

I still haven't heard back from you about how to get unbanned!

Come on man!

GroundCat




-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Smoot [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: DOOD!

DOOD! I still haven't heard why I was banned!

You're kind of being a baby about this!
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:30 PM   #2
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Why was he banned (honestly, I have no clue)?

And how do I log in as a guess?
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:31 PM   #3
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I suppose if he doesn't have a clue as to why he was banned, it would be nice of you to give him a reason. And let him know for howl ong he's banned (if it's a temporary thing).

I'm just sayin'...

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Old 06-15-2005, 08:33 PM   #4
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Fred Smoot is soooo over-rated.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:34 PM   #5
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If he's "banned," he's gone for good. If he's suspended or "in the box," that would suggest he could come back.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:34 PM   #6
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Why was he banned (honestly, I have no clue)?
Just take a look at a few of his 98 posts in the 7 days he was here. Fastest "lifetime achievement" banning ever. He was a complete idiot troll--highly likely a troll that has already been banned, too.

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Old 06-15-2005, 08:37 PM   #7
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If he's "banned," he's gone for good.
You are correct, sir.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:38 PM   #8
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but i think he was fairly amusing. it wasn't as if he was posting all over the place trolling, he seemed to keep it contained to one or two threads where he could be poked and prodded (or avoided). I personally didn't find him all that trollish, and I actually got a good laugh or two out of his persona (not to mention his comment there about black on black internet violence). But then again, a democracy this ain't, or we'd have NSFW content and QOTD and avatars and all, so I suppose in the end it's up to the HNIC.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:39 PM   #9
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The only thread I saw him post in was the one where he was answering football-related questions. Not exactly a reason for a banning, IMO. A tired shtick, maybe, but rather than ban him, I'd just suggest hanging a "DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS" sign.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:42 PM   #10
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and i'm sure that "well i've probably already banned him" is really a legit reason for banning anyone preemptively. At least, not without fairly concrete proof (IP logs or whatever) that he is the same person you have already banned. Otherwise this becomes a bit too much of an exclusive, ass-grabbing club.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:59 PM   #11
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(If yes, then suggest a response below.)
Well, okay.
Hmm ... lemme see here ... thinks back to admin/mod days gone by ...

There's always: "What part of "go the fuck away" don't you understand".
Usually worked okay for me.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:59 PM   #12
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If he doesn't get it, he never will. I voted "NO," but then thought that if you are to respond it should be to inform him that he his bannation to be eternal, and that by bothering you with these emails he is not helping his cause at all. In fact, he is only proving the validity of his banning... DOOD!

In fact, just for typing "DOOD" over and over you should be allowed to dip his fingers in acid until the bones show.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:21 PM   #13
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I think the high road always needs to be taken, and he should be told exactly why he was banned. I wouldn't respond beyond that, though.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:38 PM   #14
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I think he should also be given a reason, not just "you are banned".

Honestly, I think that banning him, and then starting a thread that IMO, seems like trolling in itself, or at the very least trying to provoke ridicule of a person obviously not in a position to defend themselves, by the board moderator no less, is pretty ridiculous. Just my opinion though.

I'm a 90% lurker, 10% poster, but I think that it's time that you lock your own thread this time SkyDog.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:39 PM   #15
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Everyone deserves the dignity of a response. The bigger man (not a penis joke) should take the high road, not wallow in the mire with the vermin (this is not necessarily any kind of shot at the aforementioned GroundCat, as I have no knowledge of who he may have been in a previous incarnation, nor do I have any actual clue as to what he may have done to deserve a bannination).
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:43 PM   #16
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I'm still not clear on the reason for his banning - is there any evidence that he was a repeat offender? And as for his trolling, what few posts I saw were silly, but they seemed harmless enough.

Unless GroundCat did something I'm unaware of (which is entirely possible), I find it confusing why he was banned and yet the likes of BubbaWheels are allowed to continue their merciless trolling.

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Old 06-15-2005, 09:46 PM   #17
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He was amusing. There are alot of people who get away with much much more. At least you could tell him you thought he was annoying and that's why he was banned.

Edit: Maybe back in as a probationary measure?

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Old 06-15-2005, 09:50 PM   #18
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People can be banned for being annoying? Hmmmmm....
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:58 PM   #19
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I respect your job as moderator.. I'll say again I would NEVER want the job.. but maybe a reason to him why he was banned and then be done?

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Old 06-15-2005, 10:01 PM   #20
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I'm still not clear on the reason for his banning - is there any evidence that he was a repeat offender? And as for his trolling, what few posts I saw were silly, but they seemed harmless enough.



Why the hell was he banned? Was it something he said in the thread that he posted himself, or was it something outside that thread? I only read that thread, but there was nothing wrong with it. Definitely no trolling in there, if anything he was being baited by others, and responded tactfully.

There was nothing wrong with the thread he started, or anything he posted in there. Whether or not he was funny shouldn't make a difference, I actually found it more entertaining than 90% of the crap posted here. If we banned people for posting dumb/annoying shit, half of the regulars would be gone.

Am I missing something, or is SkyDog way overboard here??
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:33 PM   #21
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Lets take a look at some of the facts.

1. His name was a spinoff of Skydog's. Several trolls have done the same.
2. He started posting as soon as Skydog said he would be gone.
3. The e-mail account he is using, and probably the one he registered with, was created on June 3rd, the same day he started posting.

All three of the above statements, point towards it being someone that was a previous member of the forums, and probably banned for some reason. It wouldnt suprise me if his IP was close to someone previously banned.

That being said, I dont think I would have banned him just on the 3 things above. I searched for every post he made, I couldnt find a single post that seemed to be trolling. Yes, some of his posts were definately a grab for attention.

Personally, I along with several others thought that this groundcat was Wig. I don't know if thats true or not, and it could have been one of the other banned members.

If I was the moderator, I probably would have done things different. I am not sure I would have banned him. However, I am not the moderator, and I feel that Skygod probably acted in the best interests of the board. Who knows though, Skydog could have more information he hasnt shared with us about this situation.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:43 PM   #22
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1. His name was a spinoff of Skydog's. Several trolls have done the same.

one could say "airhog" is, too. im sure it's not, but the argument could be made.

basing my opinion completely on the "enter groundcat" thread i saw, i didnt him do anything bad. but if skydog has already banned someone from the same IP or has other knowledge, i'm sure it could change my mind.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:47 PM   #23
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At least tell the guy why he was banned. He deserves that much.
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:05 PM   #24
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I'm with the mob on this one. He was an attention whore but most of us have some of that in us, myself included. If there's something we don't know about like the things Airhog said which point to a repeat troll with multiple accounts then it's another matter. But otherwise, I think he was not a major troll just somewhat of a "n00b" to the board, not really a bad thing.

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Old 06-15-2005, 11:08 PM   #25
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Groundcat should get 35 years.
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:12 PM   #26
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Hmm, who likes the Vikings and Madden football?
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:18 PM   #27
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Groundcat should get 35 years.
From someone who works in the system, 35 years is to much, 15 is more like it. Good bye ground kitten
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:24 AM   #28
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I don't know and even don't understand what Groundcat really did to be banned. But I didn't like him...he was very annoying...this is only my personal opinion.
BTW is few time him here, I don't know the 'policy' and i don't if generally these things are enough to be banned...but that guy, as said was too annoying....well done SD.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:21 AM   #29
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SkyDog,

I don't really know what this guy did, but I think he deserves somewhat of an explanation at least. When I was suspended it was very frustrating for me because I had no idea why I was suspended and it took several emails to get you to respond. I didn't find out I was even in the box until I tried to post, and it took a reply by you to somebody else in a thread two days later for me to find out why since you would not respond to me via e-mail. So while this guy may be troll or whatever (I don't know) I still think he should be allowed an explanation because it sucks not to get one if you really don't know what the reason is.

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Old 06-16-2005, 05:38 AM   #30
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If he's likely a previous poster, I'd love to know who. That's an auto-ban.

I don't know that he did anything "wrong" on the board beyond being annoying. So if he's not a previous poster, then I don't see banning him.

Either way, NeuteredCat deserves a response.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:44 AM   #31
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It was very clear this guy was a known member and trying to be funny with a spinoff name. SkyDog has access to IP addresses of posting people, I fully trust him that this was a classic troll account, registered by someone with a history at the board.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:01 AM   #32
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And he didn't think Ricky Proehl was the slowest white guy in Tecmo Bowl. That's a bannable offense if I've ever heard of one.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:18 AM   #33
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It was very clear this guy was a known member and trying to be funny with a spinoff name. SkyDog has access to IP addresses of posting people, I fully trust him that this was a classic troll account, registered by someone with a history at the board.

And that's fine, but then SD's response to him is self-evident. Why SD would ask us if he should respond to him, when we obviously don't have the full picture, makes no sense as well. If he's a known troll, then blow his cover (and, I guess, tell him to quit with the charade while he's at it). If he's just some annoying guy who decided to unleash his brand of funny on the board, I'm not sure I understand why he was banned, but he deserves that explanation as well.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:30 AM   #34
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FWIW - I ignored his emails when he started sending them to me last week.
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:44 AM   #35
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Where is this guy from? Because the fred smoot name is a name someone i know use to use alot for signing for emails.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:22 AM   #36
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This saves me the trouble of having to put GroundCat on my ignore list. Thanks for that.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:34 AM   #37
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I concur with the mob....I just ignored his posts, not even the ignore list, just his posts, cause they got annoying, as it stands, I didn't know being annoying was cause for banishment.....
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:49 AM   #38
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Who voted to allow the Patriot Act on FOFC.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:10 AM   #39
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Who voted to allow the Patriot Act on FOFC.

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Old 06-16-2005, 08:22 AM   #40
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I didn't like the guy, he was annoying, but it wasn't worthy of a ban.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:27 AM   #41
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I didn't like the guy, he was annoying, but it wasn't worthy of a ban.

It is if he was previously banned.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:29 AM   #42
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Hmm, who likes the Vikings and Madden football?

I don't think so. At least he didn't admit it to me. *shurg*
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Hmm, who likes the Vikings and Madden football?


You?
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:30 PM   #44
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You?

Nope, I pretty much hate all console sports games.
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:35 PM   #45
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I'd explain to him why he was banned and how his posts appeared to you. On the chance that he really does not know. Of course, I am probably too nice to be a mod because I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:44 PM   #46
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Are you guys really all this ignorant? Who the fuck signs up as GroundCat? Even the capitalization is mocking SkyDog's name. Good lord!
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:48 PM   #47
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This situation is an example of the difference between committing a crime and actually being found guilty of a crime in a court of law. Based on the info Airhog already posted and instincts, I am confident that groundcat was a previously banned member who was looking to create some havok eventually. His (or her) probable goal was just to get some attention and maybe give the mods a big GOTCHA when he revealed who he really was.

All that said, Skydog would have a hard time getting a conviction based on the evidence at hand. Luckily for Skydog, this forum is not a court of law.

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Old 06-16-2005, 02:04 PM   #48
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Not only that, but SkyDog isn't around when hes posting, and RyanS doesn't post THAT much to begin with, but a new poster just happens to know who to email with questions about banning? The only chance he wasn't banned is if hes a longtime lurker who suddenly decided to be an annoying center of attention with a name mocking the moderator. (While also deciding create a new email account for this new board name, a lot of strange actions for someone who was content with longtime annonymous status beforehand...)

I would say the chances of this being a repeat offender are at 95%.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:46 PM   #49
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I thought that GroundCat was SkyDog. Why did he ban himself? Attention whore.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:53 PM   #50
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Are you guys really all this ignorant? Who the fuck signs up as GroundCat? Even the capitalization is mocking SkyDog's name. Good lord!

Yes, I am ignorant. If mocking someone was a bannable offense at FOFC, all that would be here right now is tumbleweeds. A little more information is necessary for me to conclude that this is someone who has been suspended/banned before, and thus subject to an automatic banning for being a wiseass.
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