2005 MLB Draft Thread

DeToxRox · 06-07-2005, 03:20 PM

Not a big deal for a lot of people but I am a fan of it even it takes forever to see results.

Justin Upton going #1 is no surprise. Seriously, is their any family as talented as this one seems to be? BJ looked good when he was up with Tampa, and they say his little bro is even better. Should be fun to see how it plays out, with them on opposite coasts.

My Tigs got the HS OF Cameron Maybin. I am not a big fan of high school players given our track record but with a new scouting staff in place I am optimistic he'll pan out. Scouts say he reminds them of a young Griffey Jr. Big time comparison, but hey, I'll take it.

DeToxRox · 06-07-2005, 03:24 PM

Dola.

A small write up on Maybin for the Tigers fans on here..

CAMERON MAYBIN

OF, T.C. Roberson (N.C.) H.S., 6-3, 200

One of best all-around talents in draft has been most often compared to young Ken Griffey Jr. Two-time state player of year has tremendous bat speed and generates excellent power, and is a threat on the bases. Outstanding defensive center fielder doesn't let many balls drop in.

digamma · 06-07-2005, 03:25 PM

I'm closely watching to see how far down Austin Jackson drops. With each successive round that passes, the chances he starts at point guard for the Yellow Jackets next winter increases.

MrBug708 · 06-07-2005, 03:28 PM

Florida (for Armando Benitez), Ryan Tucker, rhp, Temple City HS, Calif.

Kid went to my old HS

korme · 06-07-2005, 03:33 PM

Yay, Outfield City takes another fucking OFer. The Reds only get outfielders. We need like 100 other things, but we always get outfielders. Ugh.

Ksyrup · 06-07-2005, 03:37 PM

Interesting that 8 of the top 9 (by my quick count) were college players.

Ksyrup · 06-07-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Yay, Outfield City takes another fucking OFer. The Reds only get outfielders. We need like 100 other things, but we always get outfielders. Ugh.

I guess that didn't end when Bowden left, huh?

DeToxRox · 06-07-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Interesting that 8 of the top 9 (by my quick count) were college players.

Yeah I noticed that too. Only two in the top 10 (Upton and Maybin) were High Schoolers, though the next three after Maybin were also High Schoolers.

Still, it's good to see more college guys go in the top 10.

Ksyrup · 06-07-2005, 03:40 PM

But no one in the majors thinks much of Billy Beane...

DeToxRox · 06-07-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

But no one in the majors thinks much of Billy Beane...

I liked Moneyball and I agreed with a lot of his theories. He's got a proven track record as far as accumulating talent. How he manages it in games is a different story, but you can't argue with how he gets it.

dacman · 06-07-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Yay, Outfield City takes another fucking OFer. The Reds only get outfielders. We need like 100 other things, but we always get outfielders. Ugh.

They've taken 5 pitchers since.

miked · 06-07-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Dola.

A small write up on Maybin for the Tigers fans on here..

CAMERON MAYBIN

OF, T.C. Roberson (N.C.) H.S., 6-3, 200

One of best all-around talents in draft has been most often compared to young Ken Griffey Jr. Two-time state player of year has tremendous bat speed and generates excellent power, and is a threat on the bases. Outstanding defensive center fielder doesn't let many balls drop in.

What's his contact rating?

Logan · 06-07-2005, 04:02 PM

Can anyone give me any information on the Mets pick, RHP Mike Pelfrey out of Wichita State?

All I know is that he is 6'7", and was thought to be one of the players Arizona was thinking of taking with the #1 pick.

digamma · 06-07-2005, 04:10 PM

I think Pelfrey dropped because Boras is his adviser. He and Hochaven(sp?) from Tennessee were thought to be the best two pitchers in the draft and top five type picks. Both are advised by Boras. Pelfrey fell to 9 and the Tennessee kid fell to the Dodgers at 40.

digamma · 06-07-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

I'm closely watching to see how far down Austin Jackson drops. With each successive round that passes, the chances he starts at point guard for the Yellow Jackets next winter increases.

Damn. The Yankees take him in Round 8. They are the one team who might be willing to put up enough money to keep Jackson from playing hoops all together.

damnMikeBrown · 06-07-2005, 04:29 PM

Is there a site I can geek out at and see who the Reds & Cubs took? Look at little write-ups, perhaps see where they were projected at going?

JPhillips · 06-07-2005, 04:31 PM

Shorty: The outfielder may be a good pick. He was a top ten prospect according to Baseball America. Its hard to turn that down no matter what position. Since he's a high schooler he probably won't play for four years and who knows what the Reds will look like then.

I'd be more worried that the pitchers they took in rounds 2-3 have both been cited as haiving injury-prone deliveries. For a team that seems to have arm injuries for every single minor-league pitcher picking high schoolers with flawed deliveries seems questionable at best.

BTW- I read that the Texas HS where this outfielder came from has five outfielders that are MLB prospects. That's a hell of a high school team!

JPhillips · 06-07-2005, 04:31 PM

Damn Mike Brown: For the Reds check www.redreporter.com. Its a nice Reds blog.

st.cronin · 06-07-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Yay, Outfield City takes another fucking OFer. The Reds only get outfielders. We need like 100 other things, but we always get outfielders. Ugh.

Hey, the MLB draft isn't really about NEEDS. It's about talent.

korme · 06-07-2005, 06:58 PM

But the Reds will always and forever need pitching

korme · 06-07-2005, 06:58 PM

Yay Ramon Ortiz! Woo! What a performance today.

Bearcat729 · 06-07-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

Yay, Outfield City takes another fucking OFer. The Reds only get outfielders. We need like 100 other things, but we always get outfielders. Ugh.

Thats because by the time the kid is ready the outfield won't be so crowded.

Some people say the kid they drafted today was the best OF prospect available and the Reds drafted 5 straight pitchers after him so there is some hope.

Swaggs · 06-07-2005, 07:41 PM

I'm kind of excited that Pirates actually took someone with some upside in OF Andrew McCutchen, a high schooler from Florida. It seems like the last few years, they have taken low-risk/low-reward guys, including a guy projected (at the time) to be a #3 SP, in Bryan Bullington, first overall a few seasons ago.

McCutchen may flame out, but at least he seems to have star potential.

stevew · 06-07-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm kind of excited that Pirates actually took someone with some upside in OF Andrew McCutchen, a high schooler from Florida. It seems like the last few years, they have taken low-risk/low-reward guys, including a guy projected (at the time) to be a #3 SP, in Bryan Bullington, first overall a few seasons ago.

McCutchen may flame out, but at least he seems to have star potential.

I bet they dont sign him either. They'd rather spend money on Benito Santiago and other lame ass roster filler than invest in any sort of prospects for the future.

SackAttack · 06-07-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

I think Pelfrey dropped because Boras is his adviser. He and Hochaven(sp?) from Tennessee were thought to be the best two pitchers in the draft and top five type picks. Both are advised by Boras. Pelfrey fell to 9 and the Tennessee kid fell to the Dodgers at 40.

This is actually the second time the Dodgers have drafted Hochevan. They took him out of high school, and he apparently didn't sign then, choosing instead to go to Tennessee. I'm curious to know what round they took him in and whether Boras was his agent then, or what. I can't see how he could be - how would he have maintained college eligibility? - but it's still a bit of a concern for me.

digamma · 06-07-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

This is actually the second time the Dodgers have drafted Hochevan. They took him out of high school, and he apparently didn't sign then, choosing instead to go to Tennessee. I'm curious to know what round they took him in and whether Boras was his agent then, or what. I can't see how he could be - how would he have maintained college eligibility? - but it's still a bit of a concern for me.

High school players and college juniors are allowed to have "advisors" and maintain eligibility.

This time he was the 40th pick overall. I'm not sure if that puts him at the top of the second round or in the compensation portion of the first round.

kcchief19 · 06-07-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Damn. The Yankees take him in Round 8. They are the one team who might be willing to put up enough money to keep Jackson from playing hoops all together.

Are the Yankees planning a move to the NBA? Their first-round pick is committed to Kansas to play basketball. I heard Bill Self on the radio and he said exactly what you said: "I'm sure George Steinbrenner will pay him enough money to keep him from playing basketball for us."

Cuckoo · 06-07-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Are the Yankees planning a move to the NBA? Their first-round pick is committed to Kansas to play basketball. I heard Bill Self on the radio and he said exactly what you said: "I'm sure George Steinbrenner will pay him enough money to keep him from playing basketball for us."

C.J. Henry is from OKC. He'll go to the Yankees. He told Kansas that his going there was dependent on him not being drafted in the first three rounds. After most figured him as a 1st rounder, Self knew he wasn't going to get him.

I haven't seen him play, but from what I hear, he's really a top talent.

Swaggs · 06-07-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I bet they dont sign him either. They'd rather spend money on Benito Santiago and other lame ass roster filler than invest in any sort of prospects for the future.

Quit being so sandy.

stevew · 06-07-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Quit being so sandy.

2 words......

Mark Merchant.

Swaggs · 06-07-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

2 words......

Mark Merchant.

Come on dude. That was when you were like 12.

mckerney · 06-07-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

I liked Moneyball and I agreed with a lot of his theories. He's got a proven track record as far as accumulating talent. How he manages it in games is a different story, but you can't argue with how he gets it.

Moneyball has nothing on Terry Ryan.

SackAttack · 06-07-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

High school players and college juniors are allowed to have "advisors" and maintain eligibility.

This time he was the 40th pick overall. I'm not sure if that puts him at the top of the second round or in the compensation portion of the first round.

Compensation. The Dodgers held that pick as well as the Mariners' 2nd round selection as compensation for losing Adrian Beltre via free agency.

Hammer755 · 06-08-2005, 01:46 PM

Shocking News (not really): The Astros took Clemens' son Koby, a local HS'er here in Houston, in the 8th round. He's committed to UT, so it should be interesting to see what he does. I can't see him passing up a chance to be a Longhorn, particularly since the team probably can't throw enough money at him to influence his decision.

On the docket for next year? Doug Drabek's son Kyle pitches out in one of the burbs and is said to throw 90+ already.

SackAttack · 06-08-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

High school players and college juniors are allowed to have "advisors" and maintain eligibility.

This time he was the 40th pick overall. I'm not sure if that puts him at the top of the second round or in the compensation portion of the first round.

Just for what it's worth, when the Dodgers drafted him in 2002, he was their 39th round selection. They didn't get him signed, and this time he was the 40th overall selection as a compensation pick for losing Adrian Beltre. Way to go, guys.

JeeberD · 06-08-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer755

Shocking News (not really): The Astros took Clemens' son Koby, a local HS'er here in Houston, in the 8th round. He's committed to UT, so it should be interesting to see what he does. I can't see him passing up a chance to be a Longhorn, particularly since the team probably can't throw enough money at him to influence his decision.

I read elsewhere that Roger and Koby sounded ecstatic on the radio when talking about the Astros selecting him, so I'm thinking there's a decent chance that he signs...

sterlingice · 06-08-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer755

On the docket for next year? Doug Drabek's son Kyle pitches out in one of the burbs and is said to throw 90+ already.

Any word on Greg Swindell and if he has a son to compliment Drabek's son

SI

JeeberD · 06-08-2005, 03:43 PM

*shudder*

That off-season rivals this past one as worst in Astros history...

Blackadar · 06-08-2005, 03:58 PM

Not sure how the Red Sox did, but they had an assload of picks - 6 in the top 57. That'll beef up an already decent farm system.

digamma · 06-09-2005, 11:05 AM

Damn Yankees.
From sportsline...
Yellow Jackets coach Paul Hewitt, a lifelong, diehard Yankees fan who grew up in New York, will lose incoming freshman Austin Jackson to baseball, according to several sources close to the situation.

Jackson, a 6-foot-1 point guard/center fielder from Denton (Texas) Ryan High, was drafted by the Yankees in the eighth round with the 259th overall pick -- but was offered a deal in the $1 million range, which is money that late first and second-round picks generally command. It was believed that Jackson would have a chance to play minor-league baseball and college basketball, but according to sources, the Yankees, who have a depleted farm system, didn't give Jackson the option of playing both sports.

DeToxRox · 06-09-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Damn Yankees.
From sportsline...
Yellow Jackets coach Paul Hewitt, a lifelong, diehard Yankees fan who grew up in New York, will lose incoming freshman Austin Jackson to baseball, according to several sources close to the situation.

Jackson, a 6-foot-1 point guard/center fielder from Denton (Texas) Ryan High, was drafted by the Yankees in the eighth round with the 259th overall pick -- but was offered a deal in the $1 million range, which is money that late first and second-round picks generally command. It was believed that Jackson would have a chance to play minor-league baseball and college basketball, but according to sources, the Yankees, who have a depleted farm system, didn't give Jackson the option of playing both sports.

As a Michigan fan I know your pain.

sterlingice · 06-09-2005, 11:16 AM

Or Kansas as they drafted one of our basketball recruits in the first round.

SI

SackAttack · 06-09-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Or Kansas as they drafted one of our basketball recruits in the first round.

SI

Go Yankees!

DeToxRox · 06-09-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Go Yankees!

Pssh. I still like them a whole lot more then Boston, but f their drafting.

stevew · 06-09-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Not sure how the Red Sox did, but they had an assload of picks - 6 in the top 57. That'll beef up an already decent farm system.

Losing a lot of type A free agents helps.

Logan · 06-09-2005, 12:24 PM

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Losing a lot of type A free agents helps.

And Hansen, from what I've heard and seen in some brief looks at St. John's games, could be in the Bosox pen come September.

sterlingice · 06-09-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

And Hansen, from what I've heard and seen in some brief looks at St. John's games, could be in the Bosox pen come September.

I thought drafted players couldn't play until the next year. Tho I could have just been making that up in my head somewhere.

SI

stevew · 06-09-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

And Hansen, from what I've heard and seen in some brief looks at St. John's games, could be in the Bosox pen come September.

Hansen was rumored to go #1 overall at some point. It seems likely that he could make the jump to the majors this year.

Bearcat729 · 06-09-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I thought drafted players couldn't play until the next year. Tho I could have just been making that up in my head somewhere.

SI

Nope Ryan Wagner was pitching for the Reds the same season he was drafted.

RailsFS · 06-09-2005, 05:32 PM

Prior was too, I believe.

06-07-2005, 03:37 PM	#6
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Interesting that 8 of the top 9 (by my quick count) were college players. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-07-2005, 03:40 PM	#9
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	But no one in the majors thinks much of Billy Beane... __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-07-2005, 07:41 PM	#23
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm kind of excited that Pirates actually took someone with some upside in OF Andrew McCutchen, a high schooler from Florida. It seems like the last few years, they have taken low-risk/low-reward guys, including a guy projected (at the time) to be a #3 SP, in Bryan Bullington, first overall a few seasons ago. McCutchen may flame out, but at least he seems to have star potential. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-08-2005, 01:46 PM	#34
Hammer755 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, TX	Shocking News (not really): The Astros took Clemens' son Koby, a local HS'er here in Houston, in the 8th round. He's committed to UT, so it should be interesting to see what he does. I can't see him passing up a chance to be a Longhorn, particularly since the team probably can't throw enough money at him to influence his decision. On the docket for next year? Doug Drabek's son Kyle pitches out in one of the burbs and is said to throw 90+ already. __________________ I failed Signature 101 class. Last edited by Hammer755 : 06-08-2005 at 01:48 PM.

06-08-2005, 03:43 PM	#38
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	shudder That off-season rivals this past one as worst in Astros history... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-07-2005, 03:24 PM	#2
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Dola. A small write up on Maybin for the Tigers fans on here.. CAMERON MAYBIN OF, T.C. Roberson (N.C.) H.S., 6-3, 200 One of best all-around talents in draft has been most often compared to young Ken Griffey Jr. Two-time state player of year has tremendous bat speed and generates excellent power, and is a threat on the bases. Outstanding defensive center fielder doesn't let many balls drop in.

06-07-2005, 03:25 PM	#3
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I'm closely watching to see how far down Austin Jackson drops. With each successive round that passes, the chances he starts at point guard for the Yellow Jackets next winter increases.

06-07-2005, 03:28 PM	#4
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Florida (for Armando Benitez), Ryan Tucker, rhp, Temple City HS, Calif. Kid went to my old HS

06-07-2005, 03:33 PM	#5
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Yay, Outfield City takes another fucking OFer. The Reds only get outfielders. We need like 100 other things, but we always get outfielders. Ugh.

06-07-2005, 04:02 PM	#13
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Can anyone give me any information on the Mets pick, RHP Mike Pelfrey out of Wichita State? All I know is that he is 6'7", and was thought to be one of the players Arizona was thinking of taking with the #1 pick.

06-07-2005, 04:10 PM	#14
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I think Pelfrey dropped because Boras is his adviser. He and Hochaven(sp?) from Tennessee were thought to be the best two pitchers in the draft and top five type picks. Both are advised by Boras. Pelfrey fell to 9 and the Tennessee kid fell to the Dodgers at 40.

06-07-2005, 04:29 PM	#16
damnMikeBrown College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH	Is there a site I can geek out at and see who the Reds & Cubs took? Look at little write-ups, perhaps see where they were projected at going?

06-07-2005, 04:31 PM	#17
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Shorty: The outfielder may be a good pick. He was a top ten prospect according to Baseball America. Its hard to turn that down no matter what position. Since he's a high schooler he probably won't play for four years and who knows what the Reds will look like then. I'd be more worried that the pitchers they took in rounds 2-3 have both been cited as haiving injury-prone deliveries. For a team that seems to have arm injuries for every single minor-league pitcher picking high schoolers with flawed deliveries seems questionable at best. BTW- I read that the Texas HS where this outfielder came from has five outfielders that are MLB prospects. That's a hell of a high school team!

06-07-2005, 06:58 PM	#20
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	But the Reds will always and forever need pitching

06-08-2005, 03:58 PM	#39
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	Not sure how the Red Sox did, but they had an assload of picks - 6 in the top 57. That'll beef up an already decent farm system.

06-09-2005, 11:05 AM	#40
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Damn Yankees. From sportsline... Yellow Jackets coach Paul Hewitt, a lifelong, diehard Yankees fan who grew up in New York, will lose incoming freshman Austin Jackson to baseball, according to several sources close to the situation. Jackson, a 6-foot-1 point guard/center fielder from Denton (Texas) Ryan High, was drafted by the Yankees in the eighth round with the 259th overall pick -- but was offered a deal in the $1 million range, which is money that late first and second-round picks generally command. It was believed that Jackson would have a chance to play minor-league baseball and college basketball, but according to sources, the Yankees, who have a depleted farm system, didn't give Jackson the option of playing both sports.

06-09-2005, 11:16 AM	#42
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Or Kansas as they drafted one of our basketball recruits in the first round. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

06-09-2005, 05:32 PM	#50
RailsFS Mascot Join Date: Jan 2005	Prior was too, I believe.

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