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Old 05-23-2005, 03:15 PM   #1
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Nickel and Dime D

When running a 3-4 defense, who comes out in nickel and dime situations? WLB and WILB, WILB and SILB?

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Old 05-23-2005, 03:22 PM   #2
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Depends, I know a few teams that pull out both OLB and bring in the Safties.....
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:25 PM   #3
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I believe its WLB first, then SILB.

Or did you mean in real life?
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:43 PM   #4
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I mean in FOF.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:46 PM   #5
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I recall reading somewhere that in FOF:

4-3: WLB, then MLB
3-4: WLB, then SILB
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:56 PM   #6
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flere and weinstein are both correct.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:58 PM   #7
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You may not have noticed, but in the ImperialFL I play Maynard at WILB. And that's how I got screwed when I accidentily played a 4-3 in my opening playoff game. I can still feel the pain and now he's disgruntled with me.
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Old 05-23-2005, 04:03 PM   #8
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so if your going to have a linebacker with low rating compare to your other linebackers, then its best to have him at WLB?
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Old 05-23-2005, 04:18 PM   #9
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so if your going to have a linebacker with low rating compare to your other linebackers, then its best to have him at WLB?

Pretty much if you want your best overall OLB to stay on the field more. Or just play your best pass coverage OLB as the SLB.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:59 AM   #10
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Depends, I know a few teams that pull out both OLB and bring in the Safties.....


I don't see how that would be situational though. You'd have to play safties at OLB all game and not run the Nickel at all (right?)
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:17 AM   #11
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:28 AM   #12
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I don't see how that would be situational though. You'd have to play safties at OLB all game and not run the Nickel at all (right?)

I think he was talking about real football.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:38 AM   #13
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so if your going to have a linebacker with low rating compare to your other linebackers, then its best to have him at WLB?

Or, perhaps, this lends the WLB to be the player who has good run-stopping skills, but relatively weak pass rush/coverage skills. Nont only is the WLB the LB who will see the lowest playing time, but he's most likely to come out in passing situations. It seems to lend itself well to a situational player.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:43 AM   #14
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Personally, I think Nickel and Dime substitution is an area where FOF could be significantly improved.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:50 AM   #15
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Or, perhaps, this lends the WLB to be the player who has good run-stopping skills, but relatively weak pass rush/coverage skills. Nont only is the WLB the LB who will see the lowest playing time, but he's most likely to come out in passing situations. It seems to lend itself well to a situational player.
I used to look at it that way, but I'm so ingrained to have an SLB with better run stopping skills. So now I just try to get all my LBs to have good run-stopping skills, and don't worry too much about the rest.
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Old 06-01-2005, 10:03 AM   #16
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I used to look at it that way, but I'm so ingrained to have an SLB with better run stopping skills. So now I just try to get all my LBs to have good run-stopping skills, and don't worry too much about the rest.

I'm not suggesting that the WLB should be your best run-stopper, I'm suggesting that if there is a place to economize among thses positions, WLB is it -- and the best combination of skills seems to be strong run-D, weaker pass-D.
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Old 06-01-2005, 10:27 AM   #17
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My preference:
SLB : 1 = run D, 2 = team pass D
MLB : 1 = run D, 2 = team pass D, 3 = pass rush technique (if available)
WLB : 1 = run D, 2 = pass rush technique, 3 = team pass D (if available)
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