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{Sigh} Current Dawg, Former Tucker Tiger, In Jail.
I'm curious as to what y'all think of this situation. It is impossible to separate myself from it all, as I know this kid personally.
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He is learning for Ole Bowden I see...
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05-11-2005, 07:22 PM | #3 |
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thats rough. but its good to see no special treatment for athletes.
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I find 45 days of jail time pretty stiff for driving misdemeanors, but I have no idea exactly what the facts surrounding each offense were on or what the criminal trespass charge was all about. Still it's harsh. Folks do a lot worse with far less (0) jail time.
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wait, his penalty in team is extra conditioning? How is that a bad thing for the team? Hey you, you were in jail, now hit the weights... that will show you... who needs a stronger DT?
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The information given in the article isn't enough for me to pass judgment on the kid, but I am encouraged that the charges do not appear to have anything to do with violence against another person. Or gosling. If this is the juiciest stuff the AJC could come up with on the case, I'm not that worried for his future at this time.
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05-11-2005, 07:33 PM | #7 |
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What about that kid in Chemistry at UGA that had the same convictions?
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My understanding of the misdemeanors is that he let his insurance lapse. In Georgia, if your insurance lapses for even one day, I think, your license is suspended. (I once had my license suspended, and didn't even know that it was suspended.) He didn't have the money to get it reinstated, and chose to continue driving, thus the second and third offenses. Athens is a small town, and the cops know his vehicle, which is probably why he was pulled for driving too closely.
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1. Suspend him, because going to jail for 45 days makes the university look bad. versus 2. Don't suspend him, because you don't suspend a player for getting punished. You suspend a player for what he did, and you've never suspend a player for a misdemeanor traffic violation. Richt isn't hesitant to hand out suspensions. There are two likely starters suspended for the Boise St. game.
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Yeah. Getting pulled over for "driving too closely" is as bullshit a traffic violation as there is. I reckon 90% of the cars on the road are "driving too closely." It's one of those dozens of traffic laws that are on the books but are never enforced unless the cops are looking for something. Based on what you say, I find 45 days harsh.
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I would bet most D1 programs have a kid in jail every couple years.
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He learned very well from Bobby Bowden.
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I'll admit I'm torn. Sure, it's "nice" to see a story that doesn't involve violence, but then again that many driving violations does show a blatant disregard for public safety.
SkyDog, I don't buy your argument about Athens being a small town and the cops knowing his car. There are 100,000 people who live in Athens; the cops don't know cars in a town that size, unless the George boosters bought him a Lincoln Navigator with vanity plates that read "DT Dawg." I seriously doubt he was singled out; I'll bet good money he committed the violations. The traffic violations wouldn't be a deal if he hadn't been on probation for the trespass. If you're on probation, a jaywalking ticket will get you in the pokey. If you have a policy that punishes players for jail time or for poorly representing the image of the program, then you have to suspend him. The only reason no to suspend him would be that you don't care what your players do and don't care if they make you and your program look bad. If Richt really considers "conditioning" punishment, then you can bet this won't be the first issue like this for the team. We'll eventually have to call them the Georgia Gamecocks. |
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My first reaction is "typical doings in Athens." ... but that's just the partisan in me Beyond that, I'm really sort of confused by Richt's reaction to this. My impression, loathe though I may be to admit it, is that he's been at least trying to clean things up in a program that has certainly had more than its fair share of legal troubles. But this seems to be a case where he's looking at the schedule and the depth chart before determining what to do. And that, honestly, surprises me from him. As for whether Swain has become an easy mark for police, I'm torn on that too. I agree with you, spotting him/his vehicle in Athens is a piece of cake (although having plenty of practice doing so has certainly made it easier for them to do). But if they're singling him out, knowing the very high number of breaks that law enforcement in the area gave to a certain former Dawg over the past few years, targeting him really doesn't make much sense to me (although that is across several jurisdictions, not just A-CC police). My guess would be that Swain may have made himself some enemies with some sort of behavior with authorities while those who've gotten breaks are more in the vein of "happy-go-lucky drunk". Bottom line is that I'm getting mixed signals from this particular case, and I'm really not sure what to make of them. I imagine the picture will become clear if Swain manages to land himself in trouble again. If he doesn't figure it out after three arrests, a fourth one is a clear signal that he's never going to figure it out and at that point, has no business getting a free ride from the scholarship fund. You know the kid SD, I don't, but from where I'm sitting, I'm afraid the odds don't appear to favor him suddenly having the light bulb go on over his head. My Over/Under on more trouble? +/- 4th game of the season. edit to add: re-reading, something sort of obvious jumped out at me -- I assume the school still has on-campus housing, particularly for athletes. Seems to me that living in the athletic dorm (is it McWhorter Hall?) might need to be a condition for his continued scholarship.
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Between the two of them, they gained over 50 pounds of mostly fat from late December until arriving in Athens and Knoxville in June, and neither has lived up to their *ENORMOUS* potential.
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Well, just like with the football player, the Chem major would have recieved no punishment from the university for driving violations occurring off campus.
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Heh. I'll give Darrius some props here. At least he knows how to turn on the charm around the media. Here's a take from a writer that covers UGA.
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"but won't be kept out of any football games this fall, Bulldogs coach Mark Richt said."
99 44/100 percent of the people in Georgia stopped reading right there.
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I think it's been handled well by all parties. I also agree that you wouldn't suspend a player for traffic violations.
Maybe if I knew more about the trespassing incident, violation of that probation could warrant a suspension. But my real first reaction was that Swain's attorney made two grammatical errors in one sentence. Quote:
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That's still less than .56 percent of the total population of Georgia.
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Seriously though, my point is this: if even some of UGA's most passionate fans aren't just saying, "Whew, at least he still gets to play," it seems like it would follow that casual fans would be curious beyond whether or not he's playing. This is particularly true because Darrius has been in the news SO stinkin' much for negative stories. He's getting to be his own reality show.
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Out of jail, Swain prepares
Lineman works to lose weight, change 'bad guy' image, earn playing time BY JOSH KENDALL The Macon Telegraph ATHENS, Ga. - The kitchen? Really? The kitchen? Darrius Swain can't catch a break. The senior Georgia defensive lineman -- whose hard-luck, hard-head saga recently landed him a 22-day stay in the Athens-Clarke County jail -- has had his enormous potential smothered by weight issues since he arrived in Athens. So, naturally, when he went to jail in May following his third arrest for driving with a suspended license, Swain was put to work around food. That means his time in confinement was spent battling his greatest weakness. Swain's sentence, scheduled for 45 days but cut short for good behavior, was far from hard time, but it still was embarrassing, boring and frustrating. "It was a little bit of everything," he said. Mostly, it was a validation of the negative image most Georgia fans have developed of Swain in the last four years -- a bad guy with a bad attitude. It's an unfair but not entirely inaccurate assessment, according to Swain and his coaches. Georgia coach Mark Richt visited Swain twice during Swain's time in jail. "He told me, 'Coach, I'm not a bad person.' And he's not," Richt said. "He drove without a license. It's not like he did something unbelievable at all." Even Swain's most public critic, defensive line coach Rodney Garner, won't argue with that. "He's not a bad person," Garner said. "I've never had any problem with him being disrespectful or anything like that. The biggest problem I've had with him is his work ethic and his commitment to being something special. " Swain was expected to be something special when he came out of Atlanta's Tucker High School in 2001. "When he first got here, I thought I had one. I really thought I had one," Garner said. Four years later though, Swain has more career arrests than sacks and his tackle numbers have gone down in each of his three seasons, from 37 to 33 to 15. On top of that, his home life, never a picnic, is particularly no fun these days. He admits he doesn't have the relationship he wants with his 2-year-old son, Deandre, or the boy's mother. Deandre and his mother live in Atlanta, and Swain sees them "very little," he said, but that's all he'll say on that subject. "I'll talk about anything else," he said, "but I won't talk about that." There's plenty of other ground to cover, like how he grew up without his father in his life and with very little money, bouncing from place to place with his mother, Bradfordlyn Swain. Money is still hard to come by for Swain. His failure to pay a fine of more than $1,200 in Gwinnett County is what caused his license to be suspended. "I didn't grow up with the best situation as far as financially, moving around a lot, different neighborhoods, just me and my mom for a long time," he said. "There is a lot of stuff that goes on that people don't really know about. I ain't trying to ask for sympathy from nobody. I'm just trying to live my life to the fullest, make the best of my situation." Garner has jumped eagerly into the role of male authority figure in Swain's life, and he's made it clear for three years now that Swain is not making the best of his situation. "One of the worst things people can say about you is you've got potential. That means you haven't done anything, and I can say, unequivocally, he's got potential," Garner said. "He's got ability. If he could just commit himself, he's got the talent. Does he have the commitment? That's the question he's got to ask himself. "If he had Kedric Golston's work ethic, man, Lord. Wow." One last chance Garner has one more season to see if his tell-it-like-it-is coaching style will get through to Swain. The two have given each other plenty of ulcers since Swain signed with the Bulldogs. The team even tried a position change for Swain last spring but moved him back to defensive line in the fall. Last year, Garner started calling Swain "House" because of his size and joked he was going to have to start calling him "Mansion" if he got any bigger. At one point during the season, he said Swain was on the third team only because there was no fourth team. It has taken Swain awhile to come to grips with the criticism. "When you're in high school, you're the man; you don't have anybody doing that to you," he said. "And somebody like me, my dad wasn't there, so I didn't have any males yelling and screaming at me, so it was kind of like, 'Hold up a minute.' "But as you get older and more mature, you learn to deal with it better. I know he does have my best interests at heart and cares about my well-being. I try to look at it as a positive even though he is very blunt, and he does say a lot of things." Early opportunity Swain has an opportunity this year. Because of Golston's one-game suspension, Swain has a starting spot ready and waiting for him in the first game of the year if he can get himself on track. And that means getting his weight under control. "It's going to take a valiant effort," said strength coach Dave Van Halanger. Swain has been a regular at the Bulldogs' offseason conditioning program this month, and it's not uncommon for him to work so hard that he has to be taken from the field on the team's training cart, Van Halanger said. Swain said he will run twice a day this summer if that's what it takes to reach his goal of 315 pounds. He's at 328, he said, which is good considering he was 340 this spring and spent almost a month "locked up," as he puts it. "It was hard to do any running," said Swain, whose playing weight has been as high as 375. Swain's battles with weight will be his lasting image in Athens if he can't turn his career around this year. "I ask him all the time, 'When you look in the mirror, do you like the guy looking back at you?' That's reality," Garner said. "How can he take care of Deandre when he can't take care of himself? He has to be the most disappointing to himself." Swain and Garner are in agreement that Swain has enough talent to play in the NFL. "That is the main goal," Swain said. "I know I can play at the next level. It's just a matter of going out and working hard every day and getting there. It kind of hurts me a little bit because in my mind, I know I've got all the ability in the world to be there." He knows something else, too. "There's a lot of people who are going to have their criticisms and say, 'I heard this before,' " he said. And he doesn't care. "I ain't got nothing to prove to nobody but myself," he said. "I know I've got the ability. I know I can do it."
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Bump.
Darrius was at the Tucker basketball game the other night. Let's just say that it doesn't appear that he's doing much to prepare for the combines. If he isn't, this would be one of the biggest wastes of talent I've ever, ever seen. This kid was nimble-footed and athletic enough to play small forward in high school, but big enough to play DT at UGA. I honestly think he could have been better than Sapp in his prime.
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