What If: FOF2001, Madden, FOF Online & Solecismic

Honolulu Blue · 03-29-2005, 12:20 PM

Let's set the wayback machine to August 2000. Imagine that instead of what actually happened:

* FOF2001 was released on time and not abruptly yanked,
* A demo was placed on each Madden CD-ROM, and
* FOF Online proceeded on schedule

What would the landscape of football sims look like today?

I have my own ideas, but I don't want to influence things just yet. Discuss.

Franklinnoble · 03-29-2005, 12:54 PM

* FOFC becomes hell, with all the popularity making the board more crowded than ever.
* SkyDog becomes bitter and jaded. We never see the patriotic undies.
* HornsManiac never gets banned - his noise is never anything more than static in a hurricane of FOF fanboys.
* Osama bin Laden gets hooked on his FOF online league. Al quaida plot to destroy the WTC is foiled due to lack of organizational support. 9/11 never happens. We still invade Iraq. Colin Powell resigns in protest, and beats W. in the 2004 election as an independent.
* EA pumps more money into the text sim business. FOF now cost $49.95 every year. Online leagues require subscriptions. Comfortably wealthy from his cut, Jim splits from EA to pursue his dream of creating a text-based dwarf tossing sim. Fritz petitions for the inclusion of midgets (because they're not the same as dwarves).
* FODTC is born. It's not much different than what we have here right now, except in the true spirit of independent, rebellious thinking, we still have a QOTM.

Suicane75 · 03-29-2005, 01:01 PM

* I get all the graphical spiffyness I want.
* The game goes steadily downhill.

JeeberD · 03-29-2005, 01:01 PM

I'm a broke ass mofo having to spend $20/month on each of my six on-line FOF leagues...

PilotMan · 03-29-2005, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

* FOFC becomes hell, with all the popularity making the board more crowded than ever.
* SkyDog becomes bitter and jaded. We never see the patriotic undies.
* HornsManiac never gets banned - his noise is never anything more than static in a hurricane of FOF fanboys.
* Osama bin Laden gets hooked on his FOF online league. Al quaida plot to destroy the WTC is foiled due to lack of organizational support. 9/11 never happens. We still invade Iraq. Colin Powell resigns in protest, and beats W. in the 2004 election as an independent.
* EA pumps more money into the text sim business. FOF now cost $49.95 every year. Online leagues require subscriptions. Comfortably wealthy from his cut, Jim splits from EA to pursue his dream of creating a text-based dwarf tossing sim. Fritz petitions for the inclusion of midgets (because they're not the same as dwarves).
* FODTC is born. It's not much different than what we have here right now, except in the true spirit of independent, rebellious thinking, we still have a QOTM.

brilliant

Flasch186 · 03-29-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD

I'm a broke ass mofo having to spend $20/month on each of my six on-line FOF leagues...

$20 HA!!!

Blackadar · 03-29-2005, 08:22 PM

SkyDog doesn't even get the site. I wouldn't have had the falling-out with EA and Jim and would still be a fanboy.

So I'd get paid to run FOFC, turn it into a personal full-time blogg and retire rich and famous.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 03-29-2005, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

* FOFC becomes hell, with all the popularity making the board more crowded than ever.
* SkyDog becomes bitter and jaded. We never see the patriotic undies.
* HornsManiac never gets banned - his noise is never anything more than static in a hurricane of FOF fanboys.
* Osama bin Laden gets hooked on his FOF online league. Al quaida plot to destroy the WTC is foiled due to lack of organizational support. 9/11 never happens. We still invade Iraq. Colin Powell resigns in protest, and beats W. in the 2004 election as an independent.
* EA pumps more money into the text sim business. FOF now cost $49.95 every year. Online leagues require subscriptions. Comfortably wealthy from his cut, Jim splits from EA to pursue his dream of creating a text-based dwarf tossing sim. Fritz petitions for the inclusion of midgets (because they're not the same as dwarves).
* FODTC is born. It's not much different than what we have here right now, except in the true spirit of independent, rebellious thinking, we still have a QOTM.

I didnt think FOF has that much of an impact on the world.

Honolulu Blue · 03-30-2005, 05:51 AM

Neat thoughts so far; keep 'em coming.

One outsider's look at what might have happened:

* Madden's career options would look more like FOF's
* FOF would be more graphically pleasing (thanks to Gigawatt, the Madden folks & others) while retaining most of the same managerial options (thanks to Jim)
* Future FOFs would continue to be produced by EA & Jim; not so sure if Gigawatt would still be around
* FOF2001 would have gotten a patch, but probably just one
* No free updates to future FOFs (other than the patches); if you want the latest & greatest, you'd have to pay
* TCY would still be a Solecismic product, but probably the only one until Jim's next game (maybe)
* FOF Online still wouldn't have worked, because the subscription-based model (which I think was the idea at the time) wouldn't have generated enough revenue

Anthony · 03-30-2005, 08:10 AM

there wouldn't have been an "Attack of the 5 year olds" thread because this place would be heavily moderated by EA's people.

Darkiller · 03-30-2005, 08:12 AM

I'd do PR stuff for FOF in France !

03-29-2005, 01:01 PM	#4
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'm a broke ass mofo having to spend $20/month on each of my six on-line FOF leagues... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-30-2005, 08:12 AM	#11
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	I'd do PR stuff for FOF in France ! __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

03-29-2005, 12:54 PM	#2
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	* FOFC becomes hell, with all the popularity making the board more crowded than ever. * SkyDog becomes bitter and jaded. We never see the patriotic undies. * HornsManiac never gets banned - his noise is never anything more than static in a hurricane of FOF fanboys. * Osama bin Laden gets hooked on his FOF online league. Al quaida plot to destroy the WTC is foiled due to lack of organizational support. 9/11 never happens. We still invade Iraq. Colin Powell resigns in protest, and beats W. in the 2004 election as an independent. * EA pumps more money into the text sim business. FOF now cost $49.95 every year. Online leagues require subscriptions. Comfortably wealthy from his cut, Jim splits from EA to pursue his dream of creating a text-based dwarf tossing sim. Fritz petitions for the inclusion of midgets (because they're not the same as dwarves). * FODTC is born. It's not much different than what we have here right now, except in the true spirit of independent, rebellious thinking, we still have a QOTM.

03-29-2005, 01:01 PM	#3
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	* I get all the graphical spiffyness I want. * The game goes steadily downhill.

03-29-2005, 08:22 PM	#7
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	SkyDog doesn't even get the site. I wouldn't have had the falling-out with EA and Jim and would still be a fanboy. So I'd get paid to run FOFC, turn it into a personal full-time blogg and retire rich and famous.

03-30-2005, 05:51 AM	#9
Honolulu Blue Dynasty Boy Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Michigan	Neat thoughts so far; keep 'em coming. One outsider's look at what might have happened: * Madden's career options would look more like FOF's * FOF would be more graphically pleasing (thanks to Gigawatt, the Madden folks & others) while retaining most of the same managerial options (thanks to Jim) * Future FOFs would continue to be produced by EA & Jim; not so sure if Gigawatt would still be around * FOF2001 would have gotten a patch, but probably just one * No free updates to future FOFs (other than the patches); if you want the latest & greatest, you'd have to pay * TCY would still be a Solecismic product, but probably the only one until Jim's next game (maybe) * FOF Online still wouldn't have worked, because the subscription-based model (which I think was the idea at the time) wouldn't have generated enough revenue

03-30-2005, 08:10 AM	#10
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	there wouldn't have been an "Attack of the 5 year olds" thread because this place would be heavily moderated by EA's people.

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