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Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Newbury, England
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So Fiedler's finally gone
I feel sorry for the guy tbh: missed a few games through injury, and he was no Dan Marino, but over 59 starts won 36 games: works out to a record of between 9-7 and 10-6 a season... That's pretty good, and he only had a rushing game for 2 years, and only has ever really had one WR (Chambers) and one TE (McMichael) to throw to.
I know I'm in a minority of Dolphin's fans, but I liked the guy: might not be the poster-boy/warrior traditionally seen as a team's leader, but he carried himself well, took all the criticism very professionally, and won football games. And isn't winning football matches what it's all about? For me he had four problems: Following Marino Slightly injury prone Not having a good enough offense around him to make any post-season impression if we got there Not showing an improved record in the two Ricky seasons It seems it's this latter one was the penultimate straw: the final one was being behind a truly horrible offensive line, having truly horrible RBs not giving any rush offense, and not being able to get the ball off to Chambers / Booker / McMichael in the milliseconds he was given before the pocket collapsed at the 'B' of the crowd's boos. For what it's worth, good luck Jay - I hope you rebound and find yourself a home at another team where you'll be appreciated.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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I will add a fifth problem: Not being a very good quarterback
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Newbury, England
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10-6 / 9-7, IIRC that was in the top 5 winning percentages over the same 5 year period, with next to no offensive support. He must have been doing something right somewhere down the line...
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Syracuse, NY
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I agree with the 5th problem.
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Minneapolis
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whats his record if the dolphins didnt have a monster D during those years?
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Here and There
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Having a fantastic defense most of the time didn't hurt. |
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Newbury, England
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can't argue against that, I'm not saying he's a HoF QB, but he is a decent one, and he was unfairly pilloried for not being Dan Marino.
I will also accept that other than Cleveland, and possibly Arizona or Detroit if they have given up on Harrington, I'm not sure who else would be interested in him as a starter.
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Detroit is certainly in the market for a #2/#1 QB. Harrington will be on a VERY short leash next year.
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Georgia
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Jay Fiedler's Postseason record is horrendous (this even includes some bloated stats in mop up duty with Jax):
53.6% comp, 655 yards, 3 TD, 8 INT Even in the game he won, he threw 3 INT's. Jay's overall record is as meaningless as a pitcher who goes 20-5 with a 5.75 ERA.
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: USA
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Wait a minute... You guys are talking about his defense? I thought QBs won and lost on their own abilities, or is that just regarding Super Bowls?
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands
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So, which team would possibly concider to sign Fiedler now and in what role? #2 QB on a team with a promising but green, young quarterback at #1 or #3?
Somehow, I see an upcoming ending to his NFL career, due the perception of him being a bad quarterback. Of course, in a league of 32 teams, it takes only one team to give somebody another shot. Even Akili Smith and Eric Crouch are having a comeback effort in NFL Europe.
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: USA
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I think Fiedler has the brain for the job, but doesn't have the physical gift. He has been made the whipping boy in Miami, but I don't think he was the problem at all.
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern Suburbs of ATL
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Fiedler is a classic backup QB. He can win games, but you wouldn't want to count on him every week.
By the way...one of those years not only did he have a great defense, I believe the Dolfins led the league in rushing. |
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Lethargic Hooligan
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing
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Fiedler has been my favorite Dolphin for the past few years. I will miss him.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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I always liked Fiedler. Struck me as the anti-Aaron Brooks: not many physical talents, but a hard worker who played a very smart, controlled football game.
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Oakland, CA
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I hated Jay Fiedler. I thought the Dolphins put too much stock in him just because he threw 3 good passes against a demoralized team after the game was meaningless.
I hated him mainly because of his horrible reads. He'd force too many passes into double coverage or wads of defenders. Not to mention balls that went sailing into extremely odd places on the field (ie: nowhere near a receiver). Glad to see him gone.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: East Anglia
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A double bonus for the Fins. They let go of Fiedler and according to the Miami Herald the Jets are interested in him.
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