Moss traded to the Raiders?

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 03:39 PM

That's a great deal for both teams.

TazFTW · 02-23-2005, 03:40 PM

Saw this on KFFL

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Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports Minnesota Vikings WR Randy Moss' agent, Dante DiTrapano, has said the Vikings have agreed to trade Moss to the Oakland Raiders in exchange for the seventh-overall selection in the 2005 NFL Draft, a late-round 2005 draft pick and LB Napoleon Harris. NFL trades cannot become official until March. "Nothing is official until March 2," DiTrapano told the Pioneer Press Wednesday, Feb. 23. "But don't be surprised if Randy Moss is wearing the Silver and Black this upcoming season." The Raiders will assume Moss' $7.25 million base salary for 2005 while the Vikings receive a cap savings of nearly $2 million. Moss has four seasons remaining on his contract.

[edit]ESPNEWS ran the same story, also quoting the Pioneer Press article.

sovereignstar · 02-23-2005, 03:40 PM

That had better not be "it".

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

That had better not be "it".

Harris and the 7th pick is pretty good.

Franklinnoble · 02-23-2005, 03:40 PM

That would suck.

flere-imsaho · 02-23-2005, 03:41 PM

LB Napoleon Harris, a 7th rounder and another late-rounder don't seem like something even the Vikings would go for.

Franklinnoble · 02-23-2005, 03:41 PM

I find this improbable, given the current status of the Vikings ownership situation.

gottimd · 02-23-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

That had better not be "it".

What if they threw in a handshake as well?

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

LB Napoleon Harris, a 7th rounder and another late-rounder don't seem like something even the Vikings would go for.

7th OVERALL pick.

flere-imsaho · 02-23-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

7th OVERALL pick.

Ah, my bad.

JeeberD · 02-23-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

LB Napoleon Harris, a 7th rounder and another late-rounder don't seem like something even the Vikings would go for.

Seventh overall

gottimd · 02-23-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

I find this improbable, given the current status of the Vikings ownership situation.

Could it be one of those hacked website reports like at the beginning of the season, a report got out that Portis was out for 6-8 weeks due to injury?

Franklinnoble · 02-23-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

LB Napoleon Harris, a 7th rounder and another late-rounder don't seem like something even the Vikings would go for.

Three words:

Herschel.

Walker.

Trade.

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Three words:

Herschel.

Walker.

Trade.

I don't get it.

vtbub · 02-23-2005, 03:47 PM

ESPNEWS is listing it as breaking news, tagged as a quoted report.

mhass · 02-23-2005, 03:49 PM

I guess Moss and the Raiders is a perfect fit.

Crapshoot · 02-23-2005, 03:51 PM

Meh - I think there's gotta be more than Harris and a 1st round pick. A second or 3rd rounder as well - you would think.

Desnudo · 02-23-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I don't get it.

I think he means the Vikings make dumb trades.

mhass · 02-23-2005, 03:51 PM

From fanball.com:
The Vikings released cleared some roster space on Tuesday by releasing five players. The team released center Cory Withrow, cornerbacks Terrance Shaw and Rhett Nelson, running back Larry Ned, and wide receiver Kenny Clark, according to the Star Tribune.

*****
He sucked but you'd think they'd keep him if they'd just shipped Moss out.

TazFTW · 02-23-2005, 03:54 PM

I don't know. With the 7th overall, you could probably get Mike Williams.

JAG · 02-23-2005, 03:54 PM

So then the Vikings would target a WR at the top of the draft perhaps? That still seems awfully light to me. And the Raiders are pretty well-stocked at receiver should this come to pass...

jbmagic · 02-23-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Meh - I think there's gotta be more than Harris and a 1st round pick. A second or 3rd rounder as well - you would think.

there getting a irst rounder (7th pick) and another late first round pick

Buzzbee · 02-23-2005, 03:56 PM

The only question is:

Will Randy throw to himself?

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 03:57 PM

They could go with Burleson, Robinson, Campbell and guys and really focus on running the ball and improving the defense. It's the only way they have a chance to win a Superbowl.

General Mike · 02-23-2005, 03:57 PM

Al Davis must have turned on his jerk magnet.

Buzzbee · 02-23-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

there getting a irst rounder (7th pick) and another late first round pick

No.

a late-round 2005 draft pick

does not equal a late first round pick.

Vikes will get # 7 overall, a late round pick (5th, 6th, or 7th rounder probably) and Napolean Harris.

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 04:00 PM

I like it if you think Harris is what his 2003 season says he can be.

sovereignstar · 02-23-2005, 04:01 PM

I'm reeeally wondering how Moss' ankle is now. Throw in a bad ankle with his attitude problems and the fact that their are a couple of decents corners (and Braylon Edwards and Mike Williams up there) in the draft - I'm thinking this might not be SO bad.

Calis · 02-23-2005, 04:02 PM

I don't see Randall being very happy with who they have to throw it to him down there in Oakland.

How is Oakland looking cap-wise? They have room to make some moves?

Kodos · 02-23-2005, 04:04 PM

More support for my Jerk Magnet theory! And I successfully predicted this in my Madden Dynasties.

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 04:05 PM

The Raiders will be right back in it with a healthy Moss next year.

TazFTW · 02-23-2005, 04:06 PM

The reporter Sean Jensen is on ESPNEWS right now and he says the late round pick is a seventh rounder.

sovereignstar · 02-23-2005, 04:06 PM

Moss to be traded to Oakland, agent confirms
Mark Craig, Star Tribune
February 24, 2005 VIKE0224

The Vikings and Oakland Raiders have agreed to a trade that will send Vikings receiver Randy Moss to the Raiders in exchange for the seventh overall pick in this year's draft, linebacker Napoleon Harris and a low-round draft pick this year, a person with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday.

"It's sort of a bittersweet moment for Randy," said his agent, Dante DiTrapano. "He had seven years in Minnesota, and he loved being a Viking. But, at the same time, this gives him a better chance to win a Super Bowl. The Oakland Raiders have vowed to use Randy like he has been used the past seven years, and that's throw the ball deep."

NFL trades can't become official until March 2. Because of that, the Vikings aren't able to comment on Moss' status.

"We've had discussions with the Raiders, but we have nothing to say about it," said Rob Brzezinski, Vikings vice president of football operations. "That's all we can say."

Moss has been rumored to be on the trading block since the end of a injury-plagued and controversial-filled 2004 season. Brzezinski said the Vikings did not shop Moss, and that the Raiders contacted them recently to initiate trade talks.

Mark Craig is at [email protected]

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Is he serious? Aren't the Raiders a ways off here?

mhass · 02-23-2005, 04:07 PM

Curry, Porter, Moss? wow.

jbmagic · 02-23-2005, 04:08 PM

IS Gannon coming back on the Raiders or Collins starting at QB?

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

IS Gannon coming back on the Raiders or Collins starting at QB?

Please, I beg of you. Stop asking questions. Tell us what you think.

Ben E Lou · 02-23-2005, 04:13 PM

rkmsuf, that's NOT fair!!! I'm not sure that jbmagic has ever expressed an independent thought in his message board existence. Why expect him to start now???

sovereignstar · 02-23-2005, 04:15 PM

I'm seeing one source saying that there is a possibility of a mid-round choice next year instead of a late-round choice this year.

rkmsuf · 02-23-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

rkmsuf, that's NOT fair!!! I'm not sure that jbmagic has ever expressed an independent thought in his message board existence. Why expect him to start now???

What was I thinking...

Kodos · 02-23-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

IS Gannon coming back on the Raiders or Collins starting at QB?

Gannon is done due to his neck injury. Collins will be back, as far as I know.

To go along with my Jerk Magnet theory, Jeff George is coming available after his release by the Bears. Westward ho, my friend.

jbmagic · 02-23-2005, 04:18 PM

i am a big Raider Fan.

i think this is a great trade for the Raiders. AL Davis loves the Vertical Game and Moss will do great in that.

Raiders now need a big time running game. Maybe they can talk Ricky William out of retirement

There running game sucks the last few years.

sovereignstar · 02-23-2005, 04:18 PM

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http://mb10.scout.com/fvikingupdatefrm2

Fun stuff.

sovereignstar · 02-23-2005, 04:26 PM

Guys are saying that ESPN is tossing around Janikowski's name as well. Can anyone confirm this?

Buzzbee · 02-23-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I'm seeing one source saying that there is a possibility of a mid-round choice next year instead of a late-round choice this year.

My theory is that since it can't be made official until March 2, this was leaked to get a reaction and to help solidify the associated picks.

It allows the Vikes the time to backpedal if it is seen as a bad deal. Just my theory though.

Danny · 02-23-2005, 04:31 PM

WOW, Collins, Moss, Porter, Curry and Gabriel will be exciting to watch.

From a talent standpoint, this trade is not even close. Moss is one of the most talented receivers in the league, if not ever. This is a weak draft class at the top, though Minnesota will get someone good with the 7th pick. The late rounder is worthless. Harris has some talent, but as someone who watches the Raiders every game, he, like most of the defense, was terrible last season. The question obviously is concerning the cap room Moss takes up (maybe meaning less defensive players) and his attitude. Still, it's hard to pass up that kind of talent when you don't have to give up all that much really.

Passacaglia · 02-23-2005, 04:32 PM

Not related to sov's post (I didn't read the link), but do you ever wonder if these trade ideas get leaked just to see what the public's reaction is, before it becomes official?

Passacaglia · 02-23-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzbee

My theory is that since it can't be made official until March 2, this was leaked to get a reaction and to help solidify the associated picks.

It allows the Vikes the time to backpedal if it is seen as a bad deal. Just my theory though.

oops, didn't see this.

Desnudo · 02-23-2005, 04:36 PM

I picture at least a few 4 td, 4 int games in the Raiders' near future.

TazFTW · 02-23-2005, 04:42 PM

Mortenson is saying he talked to Culpepper and they were informed of the trade last night.

TLK · 02-23-2005, 05:00 PM

wow.... Pro Football Talk finally got one right.

02-23-2005, 03:47 PM	#15
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	ESPNEWS is listing it as breaking news, tagged as a quoted report. __________________

02-23-2005, 03:49 PM	#16
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	I guess Moss and the Raiders is a perfect fit. __________________ Now while I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. - H.J.S.

02-23-2005, 03:51 PM	#19
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	From fanball.com: The Vikings released cleared some roster space on Tuesday by releasing five players. The team released center Cory Withrow, cornerbacks Terrance Shaw and Rhett Nelson, running back Larry Ned, and wide receiver Kenny Clark, according to the Star Tribune. ***** He sucked but you'd think they'd keep him if they'd just shipped Moss out. __________________ Now while I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. - H.J.S.

02-23-2005, 03:56 PM	#23
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	The only question is: Will Randy throw to himself? __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

02-23-2005, 03:57 PM	#24
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	They could go with Burleson, Robinson, Campbell and guys and really focus on running the ball and improving the defense. It's the only way they have a chance to win a Superbowl. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales Last edited by rkmsuf : 02-23-2005 at 03:57 PM.

02-23-2005, 03:40 PM	#3
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	That had better not be "it".

02-23-2005, 03:40 PM	#5
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	That would suck.

02-23-2005, 03:41 PM	#6
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	LB Napoleon Harris, a 7th rounder and another late-rounder don't seem like something even the Vikings would go for.

02-23-2005, 03:51 PM	#17
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Meh - I think there's gotta be more than Harris and a 1st round pick. A second or 3rd rounder as well - you would think.

02-23-2005, 03:54 PM	#20
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	I don't know. With the 7th overall, you could probably get Mike Williams.

02-23-2005, 03:54 PM	#21
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	So then the Vikings would target a WR at the top of the draft perhaps? That still seems awfully light to me. And the Raiders are pretty well-stocked at receiver should this come to pass...

02-23-2005, 03:57 PM	#25
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Al Davis must have turned on his jerk magnet. __________________ Boise Stampede Continental Football League Jacksonville Jaguars GM North American Football League Nebraska Coach FOFC-BBCF Rutgers & Washington coach Bowl Bound-BBCF

02-23-2005, 04:00 PM	#27
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I like it if you think Harris is what his 2003 season says he can be. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-23-2005, 04:01 PM	#28
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I'm reeeally wondering how Moss' ankle is now. Throw in a bad ankle with his attitude problems and the fact that their are a couple of decents corners (and Braylon Edwards and Mike Williams up there) in the draft - I'm thinking this might not be SO bad.

02-23-2005, 04:02 PM	#29
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	I don't see Randall being very happy with who they have to throw it to him down there in Oakland. How is Oakland looking cap-wise? They have room to make some moves?

02-23-2005, 04:04 PM	#30
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	More support for my Jerk Magnet theory! And I successfully predicted this in my Madden Dynasties.

02-23-2005, 04:05 PM	#31
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	The Raiders will be right back in it with a healthy Moss next year. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-23-2005, 04:06 PM	#32
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The reporter Sean Jensen is on ESPNEWS right now and he says the late round pick is a seventh rounder.

02-23-2005, 04:07 PM	#34
mhass High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Here	Curry, Porter, Moss? wow. __________________ Now while I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. - H.J.S.

02-23-2005, 04:08 PM	#35
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	IS Gannon coming back on the Raiders or Collins starting at QB?

02-23-2005, 04:13 PM	#37
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	rkmsuf, that's NOT fair!!! I'm not sure that jbmagic has ever expressed an independent thought in his message board existence. Why expect him to start now??? __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

02-23-2005, 04:15 PM	#38
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I'm seeing one source saying that there is a possibility of a mid-round choice next year instead of a late-round choice this year.

02-23-2005, 04:18 PM	#41
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	i am a big Raider Fan. i think this is a great trade for the Raiders. AL Davis loves the Vertical Game and Moss will do great in that. Raiders now need a big time running game. Maybe they can talk Ricky William out of retirement There running game sucks the last few years.

02-23-2005, 04:26 PM	#43
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Guys are saying that ESPN is tossing around Janikowski's name as well. Can anyone confirm this?

02-23-2005, 04:31 PM	#45
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	WOW, Collins, Moss, Porter, Curry and Gabriel will be exciting to watch. From a talent standpoint, this trade is not even close. Moss is one of the most talented receivers in the league, if not ever. This is a weak draft class at the top, though Minnesota will get someone good with the 7th pick. The late rounder is worthless. Harris has some talent, but as someone who watches the Raiders every game, he, like most of the defense, was terrible last season. The question obviously is concerning the cap room Moss takes up (maybe meaning less defensive players) and his attitude. Still, it's hard to pass up that kind of talent when you don't have to give up all that much really.

02-23-2005, 04:32 PM	#46
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Not related to sov's post (I didn't read the link), but do you ever wonder if these trade ideas get leaked just to see what the public's reaction is, before it becomes official?

02-23-2005, 04:36 PM	#48
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I picture at least a few 4 td, 4 int games in the Raiders' near future. Last edited by Desnudo : 02-23-2005 at 04:36 PM.

02-23-2005, 04:42 PM	#49
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Mortenson is saying he talked to Culpepper and they were informed of the trade last night.

02-23-2005, 05:00 PM	#50
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	wow.... Pro Football Talk finally got one right.

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