I'm tired of this s&*t

[John Galt]

I know the new abortion thread is gone now, so I'm posting my frustration here. I've been called many things during my time at FOFC and I usually do my best to be civil and rational. Occasionally, I slip, but I usually don't say much that's too bad.

Lately, though, I'm just too pissed to deal with this s&*t. Last week, Dutch says I cheered as people I knew died in 9/11. When I call him on it, he pretty much tells me to screw off. Now, Slapbone accuses me of loving it when babies are killed. Subby calls him on it, but there was no reply.

I'm just tired of it. Call me many things and otherwise treat me like an ass, but I've done way too much in my life to help fellow humans, fight for what is right, and otherwise tried to improve society. For people to tell me that I wanted to watch people to die in the WTC and like it when babies die is just sickening. And then to not even have the balls/decency to apologize when called on it is just pathetic. So, I'm tired of it and I'm out.

[flere-imsaho]

Hear, hear.

Land of the free...

Last week, Dutch says I cheered as people I knew died in 9/11. Now, Slapbone accuses me of loving it when babies are killed.

...er, well Home of the brave...

When I call him on it, he pretty much tells me to screw off. Subby calls him on it, but there was no reply.

...er, nevermind.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by John Galt

So, I'm tired of it and I'm out.

Well, that would suck. You do realize that this kind of thread is always a bad move.

[SlapBone]

I had a reply and it was an apology.

My sincerest apologies, it was unprovoked (at least to that level).

Case closed.

Edit: Just to say that as I was preparing my post the thread was deleted. I think we can all agree that it needed to be.

[Raiders Army]

You always contribute intelligent discourse. I hope you'll be back.

(hey I give it 10 days until he's back...at least checking the board)

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by John Galt

So, I'm tired of it and I'm out.

Don't let the village idiots drive you out of the village. There are plenty of non-idiots here who also find those kinds of attacks irresponsible and assinine.

And I for one would miss your contributions to this board, which are amongst the most lucid, constructive, and thoughtful this board has to offer. But you must do what you think is best, of course.

[Senator]

I find in times like these it is best to make fun of Shorty.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

Don't let the village idiots drive you out of the village. There are plenty of non-idiots here who also find those kinds of attacks irresponsible and assinine.

And I for one would miss your contributions to this board, which are amongst the most lucid, constructive, and thoughtful this board has to offer. But you must do what you think is best, of course.

For the record, one of the "idiots" tried to apologize.

[I. J. Reilly]

Is this an attempt to stop the motor of the world?

[The_herd]

Tired of this salt?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by The_herd

Tired of this salt?

No, it's shit. He's so upset, he can't type correctly.

[Schmidty]

You know what I'm tired of John: You grandstanding.

See ya.

[panerd]

For whatever my two cents is worth here, two things. (which I know you know both, but you are pissed and not thinking like you should) One, I wouldn't leave because of a few idiots. Two, stay away from the political threads. I used to get sucked in to those a lot and started to realize that they always come down to name calling and nobody ever agrees on anything.

By the way, I have also actually started to realize that I have a lot of common interests and opinions as JoninmiddleGA outside of the political threads. When he is not out nuking the middle East he is actually a personable guy.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Senator

I find in times like these it is best to make fun of Shorty.

You say that as though there were times when it's not best to make fun of Shorty...


j/k Shorty...




On a more serious note, I'd be bummed to see you go John Galt.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You know what I'm tired of John: You grandstanding.

See ya.

You know what? You grandstand on occasion as well, so stop being a hypocrite.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You know what? You grandstand on occasion as well, so stop being a hypocrite.

Yeah, but I never start a new thread about it.

Ass.

[TargetPractice6]

Schmidty scares me sometimes.

[Franklinnoble]

John, I disagree with you all the time, and I try not to make it personal, so I hope I haven't contributed to your disdain with the board.

Anyhow, I'd hate to see you leave. So, I hope you'll reconsider.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by John Galt

.............I've done way too much in my life to help fellow humans, fight for what is right, and otherwise tried to improve society.

By the way, the above statement is the reason a lot of people have a problem with you. EVERYONE that has convictions of ANY type could say the same thing, even the guys that insulted you. Now, if you had said:

"............I've done way too much in my life to try in my own way to help fellow humans, fight for what I think is right, and otherwise tried to improve society according to my beliefs.

I would have had no problem most of the time. The problem with liberals (and conservatives) is your original statement. It leaves NO room for argument. That's fine in my opinion, but you can't expect others to simply take another person's beliefs in the ass without complaint.

(I'm not saying unfounded personal insults are ok, of course)

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

, but you can't expect others to simply take another person's beliefs in the ass without complaint.

You know, they won't complain if you provide a reach around.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

You know, they won't complain if you provide a reach around.

With or without lotion?

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Calm down John... Put your shirt on backwards. It's the new, fun thing to do. You'll feel better!

[albionmoonlight]

I don't know if "I'm out" means I'm leaving the board forever. It might just mean I'm going to get a beer and come back in a few days when I have cooled down.

I would miss you if you left, John.

[Blackadar]

As would I.

Schmidty, take your ignorant ass somewhere else.

[Buccaneer]

This is like, what, the third time JG has pulled off this s&*t? He then comes back saying he will only engage in intelligent, civil debates. That's grandstanding, imo. Maybe someone as smart as he should learn about the Ignore feature or have more self-control? I have been on both sides of being pissed off and pissing others off. I am learning this lesson at IHOF for one has to understand the nature of the beast (open, anonymous internet forums). It comes with the territory.

[Fritz]

well I'll be. thats all it took?

so much for evil plan #37

[Franklinnoble]

I say he comes back in a week under his "Patriotic Undies" handle.

[vex]

Bye.

[TroyF]

Nobody has the right to take it to that level. I disagree passionately with a lot of what John has to say, but I don't believe taking it to that level is necessary.

There have been a few times I've came close to saying good bye as well. Personal attacks are most often the tool of people who don't have the intellect to battle someone on even terms.

Do what you have to do John. If you have to get the hell out of here for awhile, I find it understandable.

Take care.

[Maple Leafs]

Not sure if it's even important at this point, but if he's referring to the thread I think he is, Dutch absolutely did not say that.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Blackadar

As would I.

Schmidty, take your ignorant ass somewhere else.

Yes. I am ignorant because I disagree with you. God forbid.

[Schmidty]

By the way, I was looking for Blackadar on Lothar tonight. Guess I should reconsider.

[CamEdwards]

i've tended to stay away from the political threads lately.. and i haven't even touched the gun control debates that pop up periodically. And I've found this is still a fun place to visit.

I've also realized that if someone accused me of something as outrageous as cheering on my dying friends, that I'd probably roll my eyes and keep on giving my opinion. Sticks and stones...

[Kodos]

Count me as one who would miss John if he left.

[Senator]

Cam Edwards - you are becoming quite the little diplomat.

"Brings a tear to my one good eye" to quote Sammy Davis Jr.

[Buccaneer]

Cam, I do too - like the said abortion threads today. There are only so many libertarian arguments I can make without sounding redundant. So I come here as a relief from the daily pressures. I don't expect anything more.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Count me as one who would miss John if he left.

Same here. But what do I know, I'm just a partisan hack.

Well at least that's what JG called me. So much for name calling.


I didn't see the comments in the Abortion thread, and it does piss me off a little that it would be deleted. I would also say that I do not agree with JG's assessment of what Dutch said in the thread where JG decided to break out the "ignore" stick. JG has been known to internalize and overreact to statements, as well as doing his fair share of grandstanding here about. I'd guess we're seeing a little bit of that here tonight.

I like John, I think he is a very bright individual. I don't often agree with what he says, and the more I think about him and his postings I really think he is just an opinionated blowhard like the rest of us. He is just a bit more passionate than most. My issue with JG is that he knows he's smart, and he elevates himself above the unwashed masses <---That would be most of us that aren't regularly compared to a computer.

That said I like seeing him around here, and hope to do so again soon.

[Dutch]

I appreciate you taking the time to post that Glengoyne. This has blind-sided me a bit as JG and I had our political discussion 3 weeks ago.

Look, I admit I am a right-wing conservative (I still say I'm a moderate though). John Galt is a left-wing liberal. It should come as no surprise to anyone that we are going to disagree (alot).

I don't hate John Galt. I don't hate anybody on this board. I sincerely mean that.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

i've tended to stay away from the political threads lately.. and i haven't even touched the gun control debates that pop up periodically. And I've found this is still a fun place to visit.

I've also realized that if someone accused me of something as outrageous as cheering on my dying friends, that I'd probably roll my eyes and keep on giving my opinion. Sticks and stones...

For what it's worth, I never said the dude "cheered" for 9/11 or dying friends. That's a gross exaggeration by my estimation.

In fairness, here is the post in question.

Originally Posted by John Galt
Sleep deprivation is one of the cruelest forms of torture....

Being hijacked and rammed into a building a pretty cruel way to die. But I don't see you bitching about that. As I said, it's all about ideologies. And you are more concerned about fighting our administration and indirectly supporting them, while I am more concerned about us and thus indirectly supporting our administration.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I don't hate John Galt. I don't hate anybody on this board. I sincerely mean that.

Ditto.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

A sad day in FOF history. Another original member gone. How few remain.

[Craptacular]

He'll come back when he realizes he now lives in Iowa and that there's nothing else to do.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Dutch

For what it's worth, I never said the dude "cheered" for 9/11 or dying friends. That's a gross exaggeration by my estimation.

In fairness, here is the post in question.

I take back everything I said. Get a thicker skin John. Where in the hell in that quote does it say you "cheered people to death?"

What a complete and sad overgeneralization on your part.

You obviously also missed the point of it.

Good lord. . .

[CamEdwards]

Dutch,

For the record, I was pretty sure you hadn't said what JG accused you of. My post didn't reflect that.

[spleen1015]

I'm glad I'm not smart enough to contribute to the political and social issues threads.

[rkmsuf]

How is it possible to get that worked up over message board threads?

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

How is it possible to get that worked up over message board threads?

Please don't pull out the old "it's just the internet" rag. When you invest your time, energy, emotions, and other elements of your "self" into anything, you're tied into it to some degree.

[Senator]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

How is it possible to get that worked up over message board threads?

I really don't think I like the tone of this response.....

I challenge you to a duel!

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Senator

I really don't think I like the tone of this response.....

I challenge you to a duel!

I'm just curious and not hating but if you'd like to duel I accept and will brandish my sword of unbelievable coolness and power.

Engarde!

And don't even think of insulting me.

[SunDancer]

What's the over/under line on this duel?